Auto Tranny Gear Shift

[BoneStock]

Care to share what ATFs you are using? mineral or synthetic?

 

After this, I may consider buying ATF from MX and bring to my mech to replace. I don't know what oil my mech puts into my tranny.

[Sucker]

I think U better reconsider, one problem may lead to another problem.

 

no safety issue as the speed is very low at gear 1

 

2 years is not a long time but its not short either

 

will it degrade further and become safety issues?

can you pass inspections?

is your life and your family for important?

 

think hard...

 

[Pisces69]

I checked with 3 shops, all said 1k+ inclusive of labour. One of the shops is an auto tranny specialist in Sin Ming and they have ready stock to swap out any time.

 

KATC is Khang's? isn't this the one that is related to some PI w/s that provided bogus warranty to new cars and they folded some time ago?

 

 

1k is prob a 2nd hand tranny.

 

KATC i used b4 n did a good job on my defective corona cd tranny. That was like 8-9 yrs ago.

 

I didnt know ty went bad cos when i used them ty were good.

[Pisces69]

Thanks bro. any scrapyard to recommend that has in house mech? My ride has 2 years left only so definitely a 2nd hand unit works better for me.

 

 

That time i chk was seng tat but i think ty closed already.

 

U need to call as many scrapyards as possible n see who got what u want or if ty can bring in fr u.

 

Always get a guarantee that if ty install n its faulty ty wil swop another foc cos most tranny ty install as is.

 

Seldom ty wil test cos all come in as is n nobody know if faulty or not till u try.

[Pisces69]

Care to share what ATFs you are using? mineral or synthetic?

 

After this, I may consider buying ATF from MX and bring to my mech to replace. I don't know what oil my mech puts into my tranny.

 

 

What car u driving? Chk what is suited fr u.

 

Synthetic only few atf have. Most r mineral.

 

I used rp synthetic dexron lle damm good but now also damm ex so i use mineral n do a drain n fill a bit more often only.

 

Now rp n amsoil hv synthetic atf can use fr all tranny but i never try so dunno if its good or not.

 

If u get e 2nd hand tranny 1st fill wh cheap mineral atf n run fr abt 1k km to wash it out n also chk fr problems. If all smooth then do a flush or drain n fill wh ex synthetic atf so u dun waste $ in case u need to change or repair e tranny.

[BoneStock]

I think U better reconsider, one problem may lead to another problem.

Can you give some examples?

[BoneStock]

1k is prob a 2nd hand tranny.

 

KATC i used b4 n did a good job on my defective corona cd tranny. That was like 8-9 yrs ago.

 

I didnt know ty went bad cos when i used them ty were good.

Yes you are right. 1k is for used gearbox

[BoneStock]

What car u driving? Chk what is suited fr u.

 

Synthetic only few atf have. Most r mineral.

 

I used rp synthetic dexron lle damm good but now also damm ex so i use mineral n do a drain n fill a bit more often only.

 

Now rp n amsoil hv synthetic atf can use fr all tranny but i never try so dunno if its good or not.

 

If u get e 2nd hand tranny 1st fill wh cheap mineral atf n run fr abt 1k km to wash it out n also chk fr problems. If all smooth then do a flush or drain n fill wh ex synthetic atf so u dun waste $ in case u need to change or repair e tranny.

Mine is Sunny, using conventional four speed auto.

 

I see, I normally use mineral oil as well but change earlier than the recommended frequency. But gearbox still gave prob. One of my previous old cars used until 240kkm before sending for scrap. The condition was so good that the dealer renewed it's COE instead.

 

How much did you pay to flush the tranny? The specialist shop at sin Ming quoted me 200 plus which doesn't seem feasible

Edited November 18, 2012 by BoneStock

[Sucker]

Gearbox piang->Suddenly free gear->leaking ATF-> either 1 or 2

1. then buang-> Fire...

2. Kan cheong a bit -> step e-brake -> Kenas rear end-> kenas push to the kerb-> turn like turtle

 

Dun be penny wise pound foolish. Get another workshop to evaluate.

 

Can you give some examples?

 

[BoneStock]

Gearbox piang->Suddenly free gear->leaking ATF-> either 1 or 2

1. then buang-> Fire...

2. Kan cheong a bit -> step e-brake -> Kenas rear end-> kenas push to the kerb-> turn like turtle

 

Dun be penny wise pound foolish. Get another workshop to evaluate.

Thanks for your concern. If you follow this thread closely you will know that I am already considering gearbox replacement as one of the options but not for the points you mentioned. Because it is not applicable for my case.

[Pisces69]

Mine is Sunny, using conventional four speed auto.

 

I see, I normally use mineral oil as well but change earlier than the recommended frequency. But gearbox still gave prob. One of my previous old cars used until 240kkm before sending for scrap. The condition was so good that the dealer renewed it's COE instead.

 

How much did you pay to flush the tranny? The specialist shop at sin Ming quoted me 200 plus which doesn't seem feasible

 

 

I suspect e last time u chg atf e ws used wrong type.

 

Flushing can use abt 18 lit of atf. Hahaha. So u hv to factor in this cost. The cost of using e machine ws usually chg abt $50.

 

Syn atf abt $16/lit so u do yr maths. Mineral atf abt $7/lit..

 

The ws that chg abt $200 to flush prob us mineral atf.

[Sucker]

Now, it is 1st gear and 2nd gear and later it can be 2nd gear and 3rd gear. Later which is worst of all, the gear all botak. If your sunny is not CVT, then it is probably, torque slip amd it may be worn out clutch plate.

 

Just go to another workshop for evaluation.

 

http://www.jimjenningstransmissions.com/ask.asp?faq=535

 

 

Thanks for your concern. If you follow this thread closely you will know that I am already considering gearbox replacement as one of the options but not for the points you mentioned. Because it is not applicable for my case.

 

[Fastfive1]

Btw r u driving a e200 auto?

 

I almost got a coe e200 auto b4. I think its e last if e over engineered merc. Built like a tank.

 

Do u hv any problems wh it? I wonder if its too late to get 1. Then i might get e 200 wh e twin round headilghts but that 1 is not as solid as e single recrangle headlamp model.

 

I hear e 8 valve is better than e 12 valve masterpiece in terms of robust engine/gearbox.

 

W124 where got 12 valve?

It's the 16 Valve engine.

That's nonsense. The 16V is better. The 16V has 134hp while the 8V has 114hp.

Fuel economy on the 16V is also better.

Most come with 4 speed auto regardless of 8v or 16v. So the gearbox is the same. Haven't seen a W124 with a 5 speed auto.

Besides my 16V took up to 60k km without changing engine oil and it still runs fine til now.

Only sad bit, the 16V was introduced only in 1993 so it's hard to find one with COE til 2019.

 

[W124]

Btw r u driving a e200 auto?

 

I almost got a coe e200 auto b4. I think its e last if e over engineered merc. Built like a tank.

 

Do u hv any problems wh it? I wonder if its too late to get 1. Then i might get e 200 wh e twin round headlights but that 1 is not as solid as e single rectangle headlamp model.

 

I hear e 8 valve is better than e 12 valve masterpiece in terms of robust engine/gearbox.

W124 where got 12 valve?

It's the 16 Valve engine.

That's nonsense. The 16V is better. The 16V has 134hp while the 8V has 114hp.

Fuel economy on the 16V is also better.

Most come with 4 speed auto regardless of 8v or 16v. So the gearbox is the same. Haven't seen a W124 with a 5 speed auto.

Besides my 16V took up to 60k km without changing engine oil and it still runs fine til now.

Only sad bit, the 16V was introduced only in 1993 so it's hard to find one with COE til 2019.

Pisces - mine is a 1991 8v 200E; technically speaking, all were known as 200E until almost 94 or 95 I think, not very sure but the first E200 came quite late. Anyway E stands for Injection (in German) and not the E class...not initially. Of course later it became E class.

Whatever problems I had were mostly wear and tear that could be repaired...just needed a trusted mechanic and I was most lucky to be recommended one very early on

Fastfive - It is not true that the 8v is more robust than the 16v but maintaining it is much cheaper and much easier to turnaround (because it is mostly mechanical and very very well built)

If you compare the 16v and the 8v on the market now, coming out with the figures above is a little misleading. The condition of the car is much more important...those figures you have are for new cars and cannot represent the actual car condition now. However, comparing apples with apples, so yes, if you can get a good condition car to compare, then my choice is probably the E220...that's probably the best but afflicted by a fast expiring COE la

Gearbox is not the same but I am not sure of the difference. I do know the propeller shaft and rear differential is different (between 8v and 16v). Both are 4 speed auto but I'm quite sure they are different. Even the W210 is also using 4 speed auto until at least about 1997

If you are looking for a W124 200E 8v now, you could check out W124 Singapore on Facebook

Lastly sorry to hijack this thread but I was just answering the queries

[Pisces69]

W124 where got 12 valve?

It's the 16 Valve engine.

That's nonsense. The 16V is better. The 16V has 134hp while the 8V has 114hp.

Fuel economy on the 16V is also better.

Most come with 4 speed auto regardless of 8v or 16v. So the gearbox is the same. Haven't seen a W124 with a 5 speed auto.

Besides my 16V took up to 60k km without changing engine oil and it still runs fine til now.

Only sad bit, the 16V was introduced only in 1993 so it's hard to find one with COE til 2019.

 

Oh ok. My mech n some others told me e 8valve easier to maintain.

 

 

[Trex101]

Instead of used 2nd hand auto gearbox from scrapyard , try to get a recon unit. The diff is that a recon unit has all it's clutch pad & solenoid changed so it's like a new unit, cost slightly more but safer than a 2nd hand auto.

[ER-3682]

The only W124 with a 5 speed auto are the 300E-24 & the later E320[M-104]...yes,both the autobox in the 8V[M-103] & the 16V[M-111] is not the same unit,the 8V unit start off in 2 nd gear,while the 16V start off in 1st gear.

[Pisces69]

Instead of used 2nd hand auto gearbox from scrapyard , try to get a recon unit. The diff is that a recon unit has all it's clutch pad & solenoid changed so it's like a new unit, cost slightly more but safer than a 2nd hand auto.

 

 

The main prob of SG recon us many times e workmanship quality sucks.

 

I never trust recon done in SG cos many times not well done n wil hv problems in short time.

 

If recon done in japan or germany i hv more confidence.

 

Last time katc or khangs were reliable. Now got 1 or 2 wil advertise in classified. AA certified or sumting like that but i never tried them so not sure how good.