Tyre swap

[GoopPwr]

hi everyone,

 

going for 10K km servicing soon at KM.

 

Am going to ask them to swap the front and back tyres, but how do i know it is done as the tread on both the front and back tyres are pretty close even at 10k km, unless look reali closely.

 

Am going to ask to change spark plug even though i know they'll say it can last for another 10K km.

 

Other than changing of engine oil, spark plug & air filiter, and swap of typres, any other thing i shd look out for ?

 

For my previous car i beleive they had totally forgotten to swap the tyres for a good 3 years of serving with them.

 

Thanks

[Genie47]

Sometimes it is bad to swap. Especially for FWD cars. There is a lot of info from the tire wear of the front tires. You can troubleshoot things like camber if the wear pattern is preserved.

[GoopPwr]

Thanks Genie47, there is actually nothing wrong with the tyres. I'm just wanting to have them swap so that they will be more eventually worn.

 

Would the uneven wear of the tyre be an indication that it's time for a swap ? necessary to do so ?

 

Thanks

[Genie47]

Uneven wear means alignment is off. If the wear is still uneven after a 4-wheel alignment and toe adjustment. Then, it is definitely camber problems.

 

Actually what should be looked for is uneven wear. Front tires will definitely wear more than rear tires but the wear pattern on tires indicates the suspension and alignment health. It is not the wear on the whole tire but the wear distribution on the tire.

Edited June 21, 2004 by Genie47

[Jagash]

It a good practice to get the tyres balanced

and rotate every 10,000 km. It will definitely extend the life

span of your tyres.

 

For me I do it outside at Stamford Tyres instead of at KM.

That way, I can make sure that the balancing and rotation

of the tyres are done.

[GoopPwr]

Thanks for the input fellas

[Luckcent]

Put some marks on your tyres before going to KM, in this way you will know whether they have done it for you.

[Emiffy]

If you are very particular about steering vibration, alignment, etc, then I would advise you against swapping tires.

 

Some marques (performance continental cars) advise their service workshops against tire rotation. When a new car leaves the factory, the technicians balance the 4 tires, and choose the two that is most balanced to put in front. Then it goes for 4 wheel alignment.

 

Now, if during 10k km, the front two wheels get rotated to the rear and v.v, there is increased chance of steering vibration, etc.

 

Personally, unless you are using really high performance 18" rims with low profile tires, and currently the alignment is fine, then leave it. Tires are cheap compared to the hassle of getting your steering re-aligned.

 

My 2c.

[GoopPwr]

Guys, thanks...

 

but this is getting more than i previously understand. New stuff to learn though so i guess it is a good thing...

 

my tyres are yokohama aspect, stock tyre from KM.

 

so, if i rotate i get to extend life but risk drive vibration. But if i don't as Oddy is front wheel drive, tyre may very well wear out evenly sooner.

 

what your take on this ?

[Emiffy]

Don't worry, we are all learning something new everyday.

 

My take:

 

1. if your tires are directional, then swap only front-to-back, cannot swap left-to-right.

 

2. depending on your rim/tire size (i.e. normal 15" /60 profile), then your drive vibration may not be that pronounced. you take your risk

 

3. I'm very irritated by steering vibration, so I'd leave the tires. When they get worn out, then change (if on a budget, then front two first).

 

Hope I haven't confused you more.

[GoopPwr]

Thanks again Emiffy,

 

i guess i can but i have resevations about letting the guys at KM decide. Those exorbitant labour charges ain't no indication of their know-how and skill...

 

i still have alot to learn about tyres and rims, think i'll go write to yokohama to ask if the aspects are directional

 

oh yes, will also go take a closer look at the tyres to see if there are any telling signs.

[GoopPwr]

hi people, i wrote to yokohama and this is the reply. Tot u guys might be interested.

 

 

 

 

We have two kinds of ASPEC.

ASPEC dB A500

ASPEC A300

On the other hand tire sizes for HONDA ODYSSEY are

215/60R16 for 2.3l

215/55R17 for 3.0l

We have no 215/55R17 size on both of ASPEC, I think your tire's size may

be 215/60R16.

ASPEC dB A500 215/60R16 95H is directional.

ASPEC A300 215/60R16 94H is unidirectional.

So at first, please confirm tire brand on your tire's sidewall. There is

a small letter A500 or A300 on the sidewall of tire.

If your tire is A500,

It should be rotated front to rear.

If your tire is A300,

It should be rotated front to rear and left to right.