Magic Jet

[Jamesgetz]

The product is formulated by a special material, combined with titanium, aluminum, calcium carbide and the natural mine. The far ultra-red, weak current, electromagnetic wave produced by the system, with the ion functions, can make the acid materials the engine intakes become Super Micro-Grains, decomposes the water to have negative ion, activate the air, so the combustion effect is improved to be 100% burning, the power takes better effect as it can take.

 

have taken the liberty to extract from magic jet's website on how it works (or doesn't work...) for everyone's reference. b4 u buy this product, read the explanation above and decide for yourself if it actually works. if u r not an engineer, go ask your engineer/scientist friend if it makes sense.

 

btw, does anyone know what is 'Super Micro-Grains'?

[Apollo]

unintelligent hyped name for small pores to pass air.

[Shorty]

ok so at de end of de day...does de Magic Jet work?sorry if i miss de part where says it does or doesn't...but de thread is too long for me to read everything.

[Apollo]

nothing of engineering nature has been explained. in short, it is not supported by sound engineering grounds.

[Normal_aspirated]

somemore got "rubber stamped" by Hong Kong famous star.........can it be true?

[Apollo]

let's make it clear that regardless whether it is $50 or $500, these r affordable prices for modding a car.

 

if u r happy to spend this, do go ahead.

 

if u r unsure, try something free and recommended by world record holder. --> ur legs.

[Apollo]

and vios is rubber stamped by britney spears... does tat makes their drivers super stars?

 

celeb endorsement is common marketing ploy. even warren buffet is available for the right price.

 

a better bet is proven engineering to back up its figure. no point saying blah blah can save fuel up to 15%. why not at least 15%.

[Normal_aspirated]

[Kytl68]

I suppose you have tried the product and it does not work for you .... tell us about your failure ?

 

I just don't understand why you are putting in all these long essay just to tell others that it's not scientifically proven ... so no need to try.

 

Why don't you let them try for themselves ... and if it does not work there is the full money back thingy within a month ... then they can comment on whether is is magic or not .... science or not .... whatever.

 

The only people who participate in this forum so far are either happy users or sceptic who dare not try new things ... where are those who have tried and find it a failure ????

Edited February 23, 2005 by Kytl68

[Firefox]

Hi,

 

u shld consider try the K& N filter, it works thou no money back offer. at least some far i have a big grps of kakis of different car make n cc (n yrs also) used them n all r happy.

 

btw, i had long time not log into MCF n seem it has become abit "heaty" now adays. Personally, i feel it;s great to get both gd n bad feedbacks abt issues or products that anyone tried out. that's the purpose of MCF,to share n discuss. However, really dn't see a need to get workout

 

anyway, its juz my 2 cents worth opinion. No offence.

[Alan22]

ok so at de end of de day...does de Magic Jet work?sorry if i miss de part where says it does or doesn't...but de thread is too long for me to read everything.

chat with some magic jet users outside and find tat its crap, how much wonder can a piece of plastic do. i even try the before and after of my frens car ( few days apart after installing ) no diff leh. onli diff i can feel is when he operate his pipe... thats one confirm alot of diff..

as some of the users say...if it really so wonderful, the price wontbe so cheap and it would haf been catergorise as one of the car parts in cars...

jus my opinion...

[Apollo]

nope, did not try magic jet. like i said, reading fr their notes, the basis is not even sound. and i prefer to make it a point to address on the allegation benefits which such products like to underscore. products tat makes unsubstantiated claims hv been regularly gunned down and fined heavily by Federal Trade Commission (USA) where consumer protection is strong. which probably explains why most of them aint on the shelves there. over here, we hv weak consumer awareness n poor protection.

 

a longer explanation is better if u spend time reading it, then google for answer. they r quite elementary principles of fluid dynamics. no point me just brushing it aside and use 2 words "snake oil" to describe them.

 

what works? set of foot not to push the car, well maintained car, including proper tyre pressure, good coolant, possibly Grp IV engine oil, and proper grounding.

 

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The only people who participate in this forum so far are either happy users or sceptic who dare not try new things ... where are those who have tried and find it a failure ????

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unfortunately in a forum, there also exist a numbers of vendors, some even with multiple nick, who would come in, ask abt certain products, den 'reply' with another nick, attesting to miracles even God cannot produce, to start a fire growing.

 

been there, seen it. same ploy.

 

drivers in particular should learn to b educated consumer, not impulse consumer.

[Hattee]

If you think it's sound engineering from how you compare Magic Jet as "fr engineering point of view, this create airflow resistance n speed up velocity inside the airduct. operating principle is same as kitchen hood." - who do you think is the moron?

 

 

tell u what, give me clear n concise english with a detailed engineering analysis of what magic jet is and i'll give u a good reply.

 

yeah... u can take this reply as an insult. but heck, do i hv to entertain morons?

[Apollo]

there u go, u got the answer.

 

y pay $70+ to get a piece of material to create an obstruction when all u need to do is place a 10ct cardboard which will do the same job?

 

then again, for kitchen hood, there is an induced ventilation viz extraction fan, unlike n.a. car, ventilation is induced when u drive faster, the more air is push in.

[Hattee]

You sound so clever to suggest people are stupid enough to waste $70 ... unfortunately, it's the other way round, more likely.

[Lordalfa]

What the hell is Magic Jet in the Performance Folder?

 

This is thing is not performance. In my vocabulary of performance:

 

1. Port and Polish the cylinder head to increase Volumetric Efficiency. S$600

 

2. 5 angle valve job. S$10/valve

 

3. Complete valve replacement to stainless steel single piece forged construction with stem reduction. S$40/valve

 

4. Forged connecting rods from Carillo. S$1700 for 4 pcs.

 

5. Stage X camshafts. S$1100 for DOHC 16v

 

6. Swap turbochargers. S$2000 for ball bearing turbos

 

7. Change the pulley of superchargers. S$300

 

8. Gear ratios. Change final drive. Fit an LSD. S$4000

 

9. Change the suspension gemoetry. Coilovers. S$2500

 

10. Exhaust swap. S$800 to S$1500

 

11. Engine tuneup with piggy back or complete ECU. S$1000 to S$5000

 

 

All these are very heavy investments. If you have little money, don't waste it for the small things. Save it for bigger things mentioned here.

 

Don't try any small things like Magic Jet unless these guys are selling you a contraption that uses water to fuel the car.

 

Magic Jet is purely a Gimmick. If it is that good, WRC teams for F1 teams will use it.

 

Don't mod your car if you don't have the cash. You have bought engineering services from the manufacturer, use it.

 

For all the power increments, heavy modders in this forum will tell you that above stuff will work. Not some Magic Jet. It works on Magic. Get it?

 

I have made my past car from 155bhp 2.0L car to 210bhp. With subtantial gains in torque and yet driveable on the street. All the above mentioned paths will lead to increased power and torque.

Edited February 24, 2005 by Lordalfa

[Lordalfa]

ok so at de end of de day...does de Magic Jet work?sorry if i miss de part where says it does or doesn't...but de thread is too long for me to read everything.

 

It doesn't work. Period!

[Apollo]

i think u hv gone beyond the point of logic to making this personal... as usual.

 

i only suggest pple adopt a logical product assessment.

1. what the product is

2. what is the operating principle.

3. how is the product assessed (methodlogies)

4. what was the result

5. wh0 issue the test results

6. what was omitted fr the result

 

good feel approach r qualitative. good feel approach can only b adopted when quantitiative method is not available. pple can feel good sitting in a cafe in raffles hotel in the same way as others feel comfy in a neighborhood kopithiam.

 

if a product suggested quantifiable things "like up to 15% increase", it is fair consumer get to know what they pay for. not "i feel good cos they say my car now run 15% faster"

 

it dun work that way.... sorry for u if u r so emotional abt it. pple may miscontrute u as a dealer. but r u a dealer?