CNG again

[Genie47]

OK as you all know, the CNG stations in Toh Tuck and other places are in some kind of impasse thanks to two agencies debating about the payment details.

 

I point you all to the original discussions.

 

This is the link to the conversion done by Scantruck.

http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1466325

 

You can contact Scantruck here: www.scantruck.com.sg

 

Scantruck's mod is more expensive at SGD4000.

 

Then there is the discussions involving Melchers:

http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1549672

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1356777

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1336914

 

There is also a discussion in the VAG forum started by Dweller.

http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1579749

 

Melchers website: www.cng.com.sg

 

Some interesting details since I am a JB filler.

 

Using their Excel sheet to find out when I can expect a ROI.

 

Assuming I pump RON97, it will cost me SGD0.825200/L.

 

My car takes 7.69L/100km.

 

My mileage/yr is 30,000km.

 

Conversion price is SGD2000.

 

The payoff is -225mths!

 

Cost for the distance covered with petrol is 1903.74

Cost for distance covered with CNG is 2010.55

 

Savings of 106.81 per year with JB petrol. However, this might not last. Malaysia may have a petrol hike way past the MYR2.00/L barrier.

 

Now, assuming no hike and I go in once a week to get the JB petrol thanks to...ahem mods.

 

Toll = (1.20 + 1.11752)*52 weeks a year = SGD120.51104

 

So the conversion actually is better than pumping in JB by a little bit. The main pay off is not contending with the Causeway's traffic which is good. Then if you happen to go across the Causeway, the JB CNG is half the price of the RON92 petrol which is around MYR0.63!

 

This mod has a lot of goodness. Can eat until very full.

[Konspire]

so when r u jumping into it? hrd that LTA is ok for conversions....

[Genie47]

Now look at the Melchers one. The Scantruck is way too expensive. Maybe it is Italian made. Got Farting Pony logo.

 

The Melchers one from Argentina. Got Farting Llama.

[Konspire]

tell us when u r going to do it...

[Panda88]

roughly how much does it cost for Melcher? does it void the warranty covered by manufacturer?

[Genie47]

2000 bucks. Confirm void warranty for many car makes except for Ssangyong.

[Robin]

Got Farting Llama

 

maybe can organise a mass fart...

[Robin]

good after cars in their 3 year or have travelled 100,000 km

[Imaginary]

Not good for hatchbacks right? Dangerous for rear passengers?

[Konspire]

i'll probably look into it when i chg car .....

[Genie47]

Not dangerous. Main concern is no space.

[Panda88]

just curious if run on cng, we can use petrol until empty or near empty before switching to gas? any problem with this?

[Genie47]

Usually it is the other way round. Gas first then petrol.

[Dweller]

I year I think...Anyway it wont cost more then 2k for the whole system.

 

Will be cheaper if can have more ppl willing to do it.

[Dweller]

My Skoda can fit in 2 golf bag..so to me is no big deal at all.

 

Anyway my post have been removed..

 

Well i have ask the person incharge about LTA approval letter..if there is any?

 

Now 1 worry is that LTA might come out with some new rule for conversion for petrol car. They claim that they will be fitting up 10 or 30 cars from a government department. How true yet to confirm.Presently only 1 car from NEA which is stated in the strait times.

Edited October 11, 2006 by Dweller

[Cyberet]

yeah, main concern is space.. past month been buying large objects, if not for my large boot, have to waste costly transport charges

and if a large tank across the boot, it makes my folding rear seats useless

[Dweller]

They have 2 tank type. the big tank can hold up to 60 kg of gas.

[Kelpie]

Now look at the Melchers one. The Scantruck is way too expensive. Maybe it is Italian made. Got Farting Pony logo.

 

The Melchers one from Argentina. Got Farting Llama.

 

Yalor, I confirm getting Melcher, probably the 2 x 25cm x 89cm cylinders than the 1 big cylinder type. I was told deposit is minimal. I already standby the "Hybrid" sticker but the installation will only happen in Dec if there is volume. Scantruck probably using composite steel, lighter hence costs more, just wild guess. Please take note that some insurance companies will impose extra loading if you're into CNG. I'm planning to sign up with Royal and SunAlliance this month, which has no extra loading for CNG converted car.

 

Regards,