Waterspots

[Valor]

for me.. RainX actually removes all the water spots on my windscreen.. and doesnt cause wiper judder like some who have used it..

u might wanna give it a try

 

Have tried claybar and many other stronger detergent but i think it has etched into the windscreen. RainX?..Hm.....will try it out, thanks.

[Civic6656]

Hi Civic6656, how is the outcome of your evaluation? I'm also have serious watermark problem on my windscreen. Have tried many different methods but not sucessful. Need some help and advice to remove them.

 

I'm waiting for the sample to come in. Shall update once i have tested it.

I've seen the demo personally. Really amazing!

[Civic6656]

you may want to try to claybay your windscreen?

 

Tried and proven not good!

[Civic6656]

for me.. RainX actually removes all the water spots on my windscreen.. and doesnt cause wiper judder like some who have used it..

u might wanna give it a try

 

I'll keep away from Rain-X.

[Vroomtattat]

Thanks for the info guys. Im quite happy with the teflon coating but just got to live with the waterspots

 

It would be better if you had done the Teflon coating when your car was new. That's what I think, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Maddriver]

I'll keep away from Rain-X.

 

Water marks on glass and on paint is about the same..but on glass is much easier to take it off..A glass polish with a buffer will do it..

 

 

Edited December 29, 2008 by Maddriver

[Maddriver]

It would be better if you had done the Teflon coating when your car was new. That's what I think, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

For best result..Bake yr ride inside oven from 200 to 300 degree C otherwise it will never bond..

[Merciwash]

Have tried claybar and many other stronger detergent but i think it has etched into the windscreen. RainX?..Hm.....will try it out, thanks.

 

 

Rainx ( on window won't remove watermark but it will help reduce the effect )

 

wash+clay

with fine grade sand paper ( like the 3M claybar grey colour ) remove the sandblast.

compound/polish

( with any window polish which may need to be used with machine )

apply Rainx or any window cleaner

 

 

 

 

 

[Merciwash]

Water spot on body paint definitely can be avoided. There are so many examples out there on the road. But it's so easy to make mistakes e.g.:

 

1) The groomer says his sealant lasts 18 months, and you really don't wax or even wash the car for 18 months.

 

2) You use a good wax, but wash the car with strong/cheap shampoo or go to a petrol station that uses degreaser/detergent to wash your car, 1-2 times the car has no wax/sealant to protect already.

 

Every owner has to learn a bit. Just like you can go for hair stylist once a month, but for the rest of the time you at least have to wash and groom your own hair.

 

I've seen some owner work very hard, although their car is not swirl free, but at least there is wax for the protection and can avoid water etch. What is swirls? relatively easier to remove, it's the water etching which is the killer.

 

Myth

 

1) 18mths of shine yes provided you wash with their products and did a reapplication every 3 mths (provided the sealent was applied by machine.) But by the second wash the car would not be smooth unless you wash with any wax base carwash product.

 

2) petrol station degreaser/detergent are the big blue and white container in the wash area. They will leave a layer of soap powder on the car after the wash.

 

By hand grooming ( no single product can last 1 month in the petrol station. )

By machine grooming ( max 3 month ).

 

What is swirls? relatively easier to remove, it's the water etching which is the killer.

 

Both uses the same method ( compounding by machine). Both are not easy to remove it takes a lot of skill to remove. Plus the correct products.

 

Until now 1 only found 2 product which can really remove the swirl and watermark almost totally. ( but they charge 300 extra for it.) The rest just layer upon layer of sealent over it.

 

So just reapply every month should be ok. ( shouldn't have water mark ),

Edited December 29, 2008 by Merciwash

[Nocarppl]

..so did your wiper judder after you apply on your windscreen?

 

yes if i used the SGD 15 no brand wiper, but had changed to twister and no more juddering.

[Picanto]

For best result..Bake yr ride inside oven from 200 to 300 degree C otherwise it will never bond..

 

this teflon thing is bxxxxxxt one. whoever say its a good sealant for the paintwork is really

 

[Davc]

You know, Kah motor bodyshop only bake the newly sprayed paint at 60 degree. They tried with higher temp but the plastics and cables lifespan were shorterened, hence now the stick with lower temp.

 

Merciwash, some of the things you said are not correct. Guys please check with the Pro for opinions.

[Maddriver]

we are referring to have teflon to bake at 200c oven and yes it has to be nake

[Davc]

we are referring to have teflon to bake at 200c oven and yes it has to be nake

 

Actually product like Swissvax Shield and their Autobahn wheel wax contains teflon (PTFE) too, but not need to be cured at high temperature. Of course those have brands lah, some people mix teflon, mix wax then call it their own brand also can say contains teflon.

 

If going to strip the car.....a lot of labour involved. Surely not cheap. Some clips maybe damanged too.

 

 

[Blue2]

Myth

 

1) 18mths of shine yes provided you wash with their products and did a reapplication every 3 mths (provided the sealent was applied by machine.) But by the second wash the car would not be smooth unless you wash with any wax base carwash product.

 

2) petrol station degreaser/detergent are the big blue and white container in the wash area. They will leave a layer of soap powder on the car after the wash.

 

By hand grooming ( no single product can last 1 month in the petrol station. )

By machine grooming ( max 3 month ).

 

What is swirls? relatively easier to remove, it's the water etching which is the killer.

 

Both uses the same method ( compounding by machine). Both are not easy to remove it takes a lot of skill to remove. Plus the correct products.

 

Until now 1 only found 2 product which can really remove the swirl and watermark almost totally. ( but they charge 300 extra for it.) The rest just layer upon layer of sealent over it.

 

So just reapply every month should be ok. ( shouldn't have water mark ),

 

 

er....which is the products that can remove swirl n watermarks almost totally har///

I oni know Rust-eze product nia.....

[Maddriver]

Actually product like Swissvax Shield and their Autobahn wheel wax contains teflon (PTFE) too, but not need to be cured at high temperature. Of course those have brands lah, some people mix teflon, mix wax then call it their own brand also can say contains teflon.

 

If going to strip the car.....a lot of labour involved. Surely not cheap. Some clips maybe damanged too.

Yes some product have teflon in them but teflon do nothing.. It is the polymer in it but of cos if you really need a coating like our frying pan the only way is to bake at high temp n one will actually do that..like what you say it cost a bomb

[Four4s]

I am with benny and picanto on the teflon issue.... teflon to me is one of them marketing buzzwords in car detailing. Other terms such as "nano-technology" has also been used ad-nauseum. I too have read that teflon has to be baked in very high temps to bond as well.

 

I have Swissvax's autobahn and I love it to bits as it is... I ignore the "teflon"/PTFE claim. To me, whether it really contains an effective amount of teflon is not an issue... All i know is that it works really well.

[Davc]

Autobahn says it contains PTFE, and it works. Why you want to ignore it? Now you look at the Autobahn, water repellent is very good right? Now if you see the how the water bead with the Swissvax Shield (with PTFE), you'll see that the shape of the water beading is different. The water 'balls' are more rounded. Anyway, there are so many types of Teflon PTFE, some are meant for unsintered, meaning no need baking. http://www2.dupont.com/Teflon_Industrial/e...fe/aqueous.html

 

About nano, because the new paint technology creates a different paint. Normaly polishing particle size are too bit to get in and polish effectively. e.g. Sonax nano polish (professoinal series) stated the particles are so small enough to be effective on new scratch resistance paint. Sure, some people use the term NANO too often and too easily and confuses certain people. http://www.sonax.com.au/ask_der_schmickmeister.php Go read the Q12.

 

To conclude, there are tons of information out there. But we have to grap the technical side as tight as we can. Know what you're doing, know what's the best for you car.

Edited December 31, 2008 by Davc