Need help,i'm lost.

[A_korusawa]

if you have make known to the person whom accepted the document that YOU ARE NOT MR.A.

then I dunno what's your concerns?

 

whatever teleconversation is crap here.

 

i dunno what's the catch here? u did not mentioned what've gone wrong here? what's the loss here, any? whose loosing what? penalties, biz deals . . . .all can be nulled into dollars & cents in a Biz documents. unless its not. if its going for negligence, then its the subordinates' supervisors to answer.

 

its very very vague here.

 

[David]

if you have make known to the person whom accepted the document that YOU ARE NOT MR.A.

then I dunno what's your concerns?

 

whatever teleconversation is crap here.

 

i dunno what's the catch here? u did not mentioned what've gone wrong here? what's the loss here, any? whose loosing what? penalties, biz deals . . . .all can be nulled into dollars & cents in a Biz documents. unless its not. if its going for negligence, then its the subordinates' supervisors to answer.

 

its very very vague here.

 

Reading the aboved posting from TS, my guess is it is not about $ and

[A_korusawa]

Reading the aboved posting from TS, my guess is it is not about $ and

[Sgcop]

Even with legal issues here, as long as the Acceptor/Document Taker is aware of the Sender is NOT the right person, & w/o any authorization paper - there will NOT be any decision taken on a on-the-spot documentation, especially government sectors.

 

And for TS' case, the documentation will be disqualified once there's dispute with it.

 

So, I still dunno what's the issue here?

 

If I'm TS, I will just "huhh???", and there will be no case except for negligence - which responsibilities lie on Mr.A

 

So, huhhh . . . what's the issue here?

 

So, tat mean is the act of negligence?

 

[Bigg]

after dealing with this whole nightmare, go change job. your boss is too much liao.

[Throttle2]

i think it's really between you and your so called director.

 

if he denies any responsibility and pushes it all to you despite the truth that you stupidly (no doubt) under duress and his instruction signed on his behalf, then you should stand your ground.

 

however, be prepared to pay the price of trusting a snake.

[Yuan]

Hi all,

 

First of all, sorry to hv to ask this question.(i dun understand law)

I do not contribute much to this forum thus i hope i'm forgiven.

 

Got into a maligned case & its driving me nuts,very stressed, keep hv to get leave for "interview" & my boss is not happy. Need some views on how to counter back or stay safe.I keep it in point form.

 

Director is A, B is me.

 

1. A has agreed to go down to agent to sign some docs on the following morning, my job is to accompany the A down.

 

2.That morning, A suddenly hv something on, could not make it but he pass me his company chop & instructed me to see what needs to be done first & do it.

 

3.On reaching the "agent's place", i found out is a piece of paper that need the A's >NRIC,Full Name,Position & Signature.I do not have any of his infos & also cannot sign for him because its forgery without his knowledge.

 

4.I gave him a call, told him i cannot do this & that, need his infos & signature, he told me over phone to fill in his infos for him.**I then ask him what bout the signature, he say write his name there> which i again ask him, how to spell. He say write XXX on the signature part, if anything happen, he will be answerable for it because he is the boss.I then followed his instructions> fill in his infos & write the XXX on the signature part.

 

(i hv witness tat hear the conversation as i on speaker jus to be on the safe side.)

 

5.Now, some @#$& happen> during interogation *Initially, A said he ask me to sign, then later part he change his statment to say> he only ask me to fill in his info for him.

 

*Meaning to say> i forge his signature without his knowledge?

 

How should i stay safe on this issue or fight my way with the allegations.

 

*I do not know the witness will say what, maybe he forgotten.

 

Any lawyers here or good powerful brain to help me think.I'm lost.

 

Thanks.

 

It depends on the type of document you are handling and affixing his signature.

 

It is your word verses his word. Yes you have a witness and you can ask the court to issue an order to summon the witness to take the stand if this matter one day goes to the court.

 

Finally, it depends on what designation you are holding. Having a company chop does not mean anything. Receptionist and accounts executive also got company chops on their tables everyday and chop a lot of documents. Your designation matters to the other party whether you are being perceived as someone who has the authority to decide for the company. This is also because the document which your director ask you to write his name could bind the Company to the other party. You will be deemed to have ostensible authority under the law.

 

Depend on the nature of the document, since your boss is a Director of the Company, if the document is important and serious to the Company, advise him to have the Board to ratify his actions and have the document to re-sign again on another day. Alternatively, if it is some form of agreement/contract as part of your company's sales, please talk nicely to the other party and convince/assure them to re-sign the document. In most cases, potential clients wouldn't mind to do that.

 

Hope this helps.