Ehchang8 Neutral Newbie July 7, 2010 Share July 7, 2010 if i buy a new OPC car, i have $17000 deducted from car price. but if i buy a new normal car, and convert it to OPC, there is a rebate of $1100 every 6 months. this will amount to $22000 for 10 years. why is this rebate amount more than $17000 ? did i miss out something ? can someone please enlighten me ? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix123 Neutral Newbie July 7, 2010 Share July 7, 2010 http://www.lta.gov.sg/motoring_matters/mot...mes_offpeak.htm *Amount cap at $17k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporadic 1st Gear July 7, 2010 Share July 7, 2010 The diff is because the 17k is an upfront savings, whereas the 22k is not. It is probably thus to account for things like inflation/time value of money/opp cost etc. Contrary to what the second poster is saying, the cap is NOT 17k. It is 22 k (terms and conditions applying, of course). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear July 7, 2010 Share July 7, 2010 You're forgetting the yearly reduction of road tax for the OPC car too. It's another 800 reduction a year, with a minimum payment of 50 bucks. So it's actually more than 17K. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majordan 2nd Gear July 7, 2010 Share July 7, 2010 buy normal plate and convert to red plate = give LTA interest free loan of $17,000 for 10 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporadic 1st Gear July 7, 2010 Share July 7, 2010 It's true. 2.5 years ago, I bought a 6.5 year old second-hand non-OPC car for $20,800, then converted it into an OPC. When I scrap the car next year, I'll get back $7700 (for 3.5 years as an OPC) plus $12,300 (PARF) = $20,000. Not bad, huh? $800 depreciation over 3.5 years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon5 5th Gear July 7, 2010 Share July 7, 2010 It's true. 2.5 years ago, I bought a 6.5 year old second-hand non-OPC car for $20,800, then converted it into an OPC. When I scrap the car next year, I'll get back $7700 (for 3.5 years as an OPC) plus $12,300 (PARF) = $20,000. Not bad, huh? $800 depreciation over 3.5 years! wah dan eh...power sia! you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzi80 3rd Gear July 7, 2010 Share July 7, 2010 If normal car convert to OPC - [(17000 / 10) + 500] / 2 = $1100 (every 6 mths) If OPC direct - 1 time $17000 off + $500 tax rebate every year Basically if you convert you are just wasting interest on the $17000 you might save earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehchang8 Neutral Newbie July 8, 2010 Author Share July 8, 2010 convert to OPC, you are also paying less road tax. so road tax should not be in the formula. interest for the 17k, yes maybe. but the rate is higher than the market rate. 5k/17k/10yrs=2.94% flat rate. or maybe not, because only get payment every 6 months instead of every month.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahlin 1st Gear July 8, 2010 Share July 8, 2010 (edited) If normal car convert to OPC - [(17000 / 10) + 500] / 2 = $1100 (every 6 mths) If OPC direct - 1 time $17000 off + $500 tax rebate every year Basically if you convert you are just wasting interest on the $17000 you might save earlier. Your formula seem to be incorrect. Road tax rebate applied to all OPC regardless of whether direct OPC or converted OPC. So in total : convert to OPC get $22000 after 10 years OPC direct get $17000 day 1 I don't think you will loss out on interest. Car loan interest for $17000, 10 years work out to be $3740 (based on 2.2% X 10 years). The additional $5000 is more than enough to covert the so call losses in interest. And don't forget, you get bank interest for the $5K as well of course not for 10 years. Anyway bank might not allow car owner to convert from normal to OPC if his/her outstanding loan is not fully paid. Edited July 8, 2010 by Wahlin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nf0rc3r 1st Gear July 8, 2010 Share July 8, 2010 Its "UP TO" 2.2k per month. That is in case u convert 1 day after u renew road tax. The first month rebate is 2.2k includes the $500 road tax rebate. The rest 1.7k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nf0rc3r 1st Gear July 8, 2010 Share July 8, 2010 Your formula seem to be incorrect. Road tax rebate applied to all OPC regardless of whether direct OPC or converted OPC. So in total : convert to OPC get $22000 after 10 years OPC direct get $17000 day 1 I don't think you will loss out on interest. Car loan interest for $17000, 10 years work out to be $3740 (based on 2.2% X 10 years). The additional $5000 is more than enough to covert the so call losses in interest. And don't forget, you get bank interest for the $5K as well of course not for 10 years. Anyway bank might not allow car owner to convert from normal to OPC if his/her outstanding loan is not fully paid. PVOM =x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoots 3rd Gear July 8, 2010 Share July 8, 2010 Your formula seem to be incorrect. Road tax rebate applied to all OPC regardless of whether direct OPC or converted OPC. So in total : convert to OPC get $22000 after 10 years OPC direct get $17000 day 1 I don't think you will loss out on interest. Car loan interest for $17000, 10 years work out to be $3740 (based on 2.2% X 10 years). The additional $5000 is more than enough to covert the so call losses in interest. And don't forget, you get bank interest for the $5K as well of course not for 10 years. Anyway bank might not allow car owner to convert from normal to OPC if his/her outstanding loan is not fully paid. Don't forget. The (max) 22K is the final amount after 20 6month periods. The 17K rebate is from Day1. Factor in inflation, that final, max 22K at eh end of 10yrs is not the same as 22K today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahlin 1st Gear July 8, 2010 Share July 8, 2010 Its "UP TO" 2.2k per month. That is in case u convert 1 day after u renew road tax. The first month rebate is 2.2k includes the $500 road tax rebate. The rest 1.7k. Where u get the info from ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehchang8 Neutral Newbie July 9, 2010 Author Share July 9, 2010 Its "UP TO" 2.2k per month. That is in case u convert 1 day after u renew road tax. The first month rebate is 2.2k includes the $500 road tax rebate. The rest 1.7k. road tax rebate they refund you at once, opc rebate has to wait. don't think they lump this together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyric Neutral Newbie July 14, 2010 Share July 14, 2010 Anyway bank might not allow car owner to convert from normal to OPC if his/her outstanding loan is not fully paid. Is it necessary to refinance car loan when converting from normal to revised OPC scheme? My friends and I enquire our respective banks and they insist that it is necessary to refinance the car loan since the "terms and conditions" for OPC car are different. I thought the loan should not matter since I am still paying the required monthly installments. I just need to pay them back whatever outstanding amount I own them if I sell my car. Btw, LTA doesnt need any approval from banks for conversion. So can I still go ahead with the conversion and ignore the bank? Can anybody advise.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unfair 3rd Gear July 14, 2010 Share July 14, 2010 Is it necessary to refinance car loan when converting from normal to revised OPC scheme? My friends and I enquire our respective banks and they insist that it is necessary to refinance the car loan since the "terms and conditions" for OPC car are different. I thought the loan should not matter since I am still paying the required monthly installments. I just need to pay them back whatever outstanding amount I own them if I sell my car. Btw, LTA doesnt need any approval from banks for conversion. So can I still go ahead with the conversion and ignore the bank? Can anybody advise.... You do understand that u are hiring the car from the purchaser(Bank) right ? If the bank wanna play with you, they can also just recall their loan to you with immediate effect. See where you gonna find $$$ to pay back loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyric Neutral Newbie July 14, 2010 Share July 14, 2010 You do understand that u are hiring the car from the purchaser(Bank) right ? If the bank wanna play with you, they can also just recall their loan to you with immediate effect. See where you gonna find $$$ to pay back loan If such a situation arises, I guess the only alternative is to sell off the car and pay off the outstanding loan amount and interest then. Anyway, does this imply that for conversion from normal to revised opc scheme, it is necessary to either refinance or pay off the outstanding loan balance to the bank? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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