5000 more parking lots- LTA & HDB dont talk

[Xnop]

actually HDB can build car park in the basement of every new HDB flat built like condos...this way our car will be more secure also...less land used nevertheless...

[questionedfish]

1.2k for parking per annum...

 

CRAZY! parking is not even in the city area!!

[Ahhuat]

Major govt dept with big budgets and talents.

but they operate like fish markets.

 

Not enough parkinig lots than start to build?

Worst than buying grocery. When we buy grocery, we try to keep enough stocks.

 

LTA over release COE in the past few years.

HDB did not respond to build more parking lots.

 

Like that anybody also can be gehment.

 

i understand this is a car forum and ppl here are car owners, like me.

 

but spare a thought for more than 50% of singaporeans who dont drive and would rather see that land and resources used for car park lots go to something more fruitful like a park, or a kindergarten or a playground.

 

so i dont blame them for building lots when the demand is there cos honestly, this shouldnt be the govt's first priority. taking care of the MAJORITY should be their first priority and the majority dont give a hoot about car park lots.

 

honestly, till i was 17, the family didnt own a car. back then, if i saw more resources go to car park lots, my blood would sure boil.

 

[Ahhuat]

actually HDB can build car park in the basement of every new HDB flat built like condos...this way our car will be more secure also...less land used nevertheless...

 

that was the initial plan for my blocks but im glad they scrapped it and made it above ground. or my car would one day be drowned!

 

[Ahhuat]

Calculation

 

$66million for 5000 car lots

$13200 per car lot

 

Assuming Lifespan for Car lot 99 years (just like HDB flats). (I don't think HDB going to tear away the Carpark and built new one every 20 years.)

 

$13200/ (99*12)

=$11.11

 

This would be the cost for building the car lot per month. So the rest of the parking fee is for maintenance etc.

 

Cheers

Chng

 

when referring to MSCP, it is not amazing that it is expensive. but that expensive???

[Ahhuat]

The root of the problem is the increasing car population. More COEs released in the last few years, resulting in heavy traffic on the expressway, no sufficient car parks etc.

 

A fairer system in my opinion is to penalise those with more than one car per unit. Charge more car an for the 2nd car, and even more for the 3rd car and so on. Every unit will be entitled to a standard rate for one car and if they have more cars, they woud have to pay more.

 

Building more carparks will not solve the problem, controlling and discouraging car population is a wiser solution.

 

well said. some of the ppl here dont undstd that they are actually rich. how poor can one be if one can afford a car? and if one thinks he is poor, you shouldnt be driving in the first place. till today i take the train to work, squeeze with the rest.

 

ppl here should get off their high horse and stop demanding that land and resources go to lots to display their precious cars. there are other singaporeans too! not just those who drive. not happy, take all their money and wealth and leave!

[Bigg]

The sum worked out to be $13,200 per lot.

 

Hi, im interested in buying a lot.

Are you a property agent? Can i buy the property lot from u?

Can use cpf right? or is this considered pte property.

im buying one near my parents, do i get subsidise?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(joking!)

[5936]

In Hong Kong, they have COE too.

But not for car, it is for Parking lot.

 

 

[Tigershark1976]

forgive me but i cant really understand how a block of concrete, some steel bars, and some paint can amount to 13k

 

 

they added the cost of land.... and yes, this is how they calculate... cost in anything and everything...

[Tigershark1976]

Calculation

 

$66million for 5000 car lots

$13200 per car lot

 

Assuming Lifespan for Car lot 99 years (just like HDB flats). (I don't think HDB going to tear away the Carpark and built new one every 20 years.)

 

$13200/ (99*12)

=$11.11

 

This would be the cost for building the car lot per month. So the rest of the parking fee is for maintenance etc.

 

Cheers

Chng

 

u forget to cost in the appreciation of land price every year... oh yah, trust me, do will do that...

 

[Tigershark1976]

actually HDB can build car park in the basement of every new HDB flat built like condos...this way our car will be more secure also...less land used nevertheless...

 

 

structure below the ground cost a few times more than building it above the ground... and yes, the driver will be paying for it.

[Dafansu]

structure below the ground cost a few times more than building it above the ground... and yes, the driver will be paying for it.

 

some hdb carparks come with basement carpark. the monthly parking will still be the same. but it's costly to build basement carpark.

[Dafansu]

In Hong Kong, they have COE too.

But not for car, it is for Parking lot.

 

Typical HK parking

 

HK$25 = S$4.3 for 1 hr parking

HK$110 = S$19

Season Parking S$550 per month

 

 

 

HK$20 = S$3.50 for half and hour parking

 

Edited September 17, 2010 by Dafansu

[Cybersurf]

If one does not do currency conversion, one will realized that parking in HK is indeed expensive! And definitely in the city area... Sky high! Cost of living not low in HK. One bowl of wanton noodles is about HK$40 today...

Cars are much cheaper than Singapore, but it's the parking that kills.

Even in condos, each household has to pay for the parking lot, or like one bro here mentioned, to bid for it.

[Dafansu]

If one does not do currency conversion, one will realized that parking in HK is indeed expensive! And definitely in the city area... Sky high! Cost of living not low in HK. One bowl of wanton noodles is about HK$40 today...

Cars are much cheaper than Singapore, but it's the parking that kills.

Even in condos, each household has to pay for the parking lot, or like one bro here mentioned, to bid for it.

 

normally they go public, most of the time i see buses on the road only. If not, can see those luxury cars.

[5936]

I think 10 years ago it was something like HK20, right?

[Bystander50]

It's the price of land that costs a bomb. It's now like $1000 psf for a condo in neighbourhood area.

 

Well, we all know who's the bad guy controlling the price.

 

Wasn't it stated then gov acquired land in pte property that is designated as road, the compensation is very minimum?

 

For the case of carpark or MSCP, it can also be considered a road in a stacked manner. Therefore, this "designated" road should not have so much land cost.

 

[Tigershark1976]

some hdb carparks come with basement carpark. the monthly parking will still be the same. but it's costly to build basement carpark.

yap... i know a few in CCK, but those are only single layer basement. its much cheaper than those multistorey basement carpark... btw, bra dafansu, u still driving Vios?? it has been quite some time since i meet u in Yishun Dam few yrs back!

Edited September 17, 2010 by Tigershark1976