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This thread is so informative. I've been following it since a few months back. Vezel is definitely a good choice and I am intending to get one myself. Current ride COE going kaput in May.. looks like Hup Long has the most orders and delivery now.

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bro..i just PMed you the best deal i've seen so far for X and S model. flooded with proper free gifts! lucky i bought hybrid..they give stuff only hybrid have haha. damn..i feel excited for pple who have yet placed their orders..

 

kns..slow mover has their advantage

Hi, I interested to get vezel X for my next car. & I benefited a lot of info from this forum. Can pm me the vezel deal that u wrote yesterday. Tks tks

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Sorry, bro, I took that picture off the website; it's not from my car! Thousand apologies, I never even notice that until you mentioned it!

No problem bro. I thought there is a way to get all rings lighted up and that would be wonderful.

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Hi guys & gals, just read this in Subaru forum about car battery. Not sure how true this is. Have anyone experience this??

 

 

Enhanced Flooded Batteries were developed for use in stop-start vehicles. The reduced cost of manufacturing EFBs is attractive for manufacturers in order to help keep overall new vehicle production costs down. The EFB design incorporates a porous fibre material, sometimes called "scrim", along with plates that are thicker than a conventional flooded battery. The use of low pressure contact material on the plates of EFBs retains the active material and improves their cycle performance which is necessary for stop-start applications. Examples of vehicles using an EFB include the Mazda CX-5, Subaru XV and the Ford Fiesta ECOnetic.

 

Also note that conventional batteries should not be used in start-stop vehicles:

 

The fitting of a conventional flooded battery to these vehicles will lead to premature failure, it is therefore critical to ensure the vehicle operates as per the manufacturers requirements, the correct chemistry battery application is installed. The batteries look exactly the same as a traditional flooded battery. Unfortunately there is no standard to identify if a battery is an EFB, some are only evident by their part number. Most manufacturers using these batteries have a blue/white label attached to the top of the battery indicating it can be used For Stop & Start.

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Bro... U must call them in advance for w30... Top up $50

 

 

yes, they told me to top up $50 which I am reluctant to pay. In the end, used what they recommended (15w40). According to the mechanics, the next will be 5w40 synthetic (10k servicing). Also, the WS does not have w30 synthetic, they only have mineral. As such, got to top up $120 more due to more frequent servicing (10k vs 5k). Asked them whether can I buy my oil and they just top up. They said yes but still have to top up $50. [confused][confused]

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yes, they told me to top up $50 which I am reluctant to pay. In the end, used what they recommended (15w40). According to the mechanics, the next will be 5w40 synthetic (10k servicing). Also, the WS does not have w30 synthetic, they only have mineral. As such, got to top up $120 more due to more frequent servicing (10k vs 5k). Asked them whether can I buy my oil and they just top up. They said yes but still have to top up $50. [confused][confused]

They trying to cheat you to pay for Engine oil. Just use what is given. After 10k service (ie 15k or 20k) bring your own oil (0w20) to the work shop.

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yes, they told me to top up $50 which I am reluctant to pay. In the end, used what they recommended (15w40). According to the mechanics, the next will be 5w40 synthetic (10k servicing). Also, the WS does not have w30 synthetic, they only have mineral. As such, got to top up $120 more due to more frequent servicing (10k vs 5k). Asked them whether can I buy my oil and they just top up. They said yes but still have to top up $50. [confused][confused]

 

Any self-respecting workshop must have Fully Synthetic W30 oil on hand. If not, its really quite a sorry workshop with poor ethics towards customer service and accountability. They are using the same ruse to discourage you from putting W30 oil with a thousand and one unfounded reasons, and profiting from you in the process.

 

I reiterate; JDM manual for the L15B / LEB engine in ALL Vezels require W30 oils at the very least.

 

Unlike conventional (non-start stop) engines, where the engine oil is continuously flowing through the engine internals at a relatively constant oil pressure on idle (less than 2 Bar), to increasing oil pressure proportionate to throttle position (4-6 bar), oil pressure NEVER drops to ZERO in such cars, unless of course the engine is shut down.

 

Now we move to our start-stop engine function. When the engine is shut down at the traffic light, unless I'm very much mistaken, the oil pump stops functioning as well and there will be negligible oil pressure left in the system. This causes heat to soak up in several "hot spots" within the block. The L15B engine, being non-turbo charged, "hot spots" within should not reach temperatures so high that it can damage anything. You will want a good quality fully-synthetic oil to ensure the oil do not break down prematurely over time.

 

At this point, the oil around these "hot spots" are, hotter.

 

The main issue is when the Vezel start the car when you lift off the brakes. The engine kicks back to life, and what happens next is crucial to why I keep preaching thin engine oils. Usually after we start engine, we accelerate, and this causes the greatest engine stress. Why? Remember the hotter oil around the "hot spots"? We WANT these hot oil to conduct the heat and flow as fast away to other regions, and cooler oil to quench the region, in preparation for the immediate acceleration segment. Do you think, compared with thicker, and thus more viscous (slower flow) engine oil, which will be more harmful to the engine in the long run?

 

Start-stop equipped Engines REQUIRE good quality thin engine oil. Honda will not anyhow put W30 in their manual for fun. The hybrids LEBs require even thinner W20 oils, right in the manual.

 

The age-old lore about our climate requiring W40 oil is kind of bulls**t. You guys bought the Vezel over the HR-V. This means you all are technically more savvy, more informed than the masses, and at the end of the day, fortune favours the bold.

 

Peace, Vezelers.

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Any self-respecting workshop must have Fully Synthetic W30 oil on hand. If not, its really quite a sorry workshop with poor ethics towards customer service and accountability. They are using the same ruse to discourage you from putting W30 oil with a thousand and one unfounded reasons, and profiting from you in the process.

 

I reiterate; JDM manual for the L15B / LEB engine in ALL Vezels require W30 oils at the very least.

 

Unlike conventional (non-start stop) engines, where the engine oil is continuously flowing through the engine internals at a relatively constant oil pressure on idle (less than 2 Bar), to increasing oil pressure proportionate to throttle position (4-6 bar), oil pressure NEVER drops to ZERO in such cars, unless of course the engine is shut down.

 

Now we move to our start-stop engine function. When the engine is shut down at the traffic light, unless I'm very much mistaken, the oil pump stops functioning as well and there will be negligible oil pressure left in the system. This causes heat to soak up in several "hot spots" within the block. The L15B engine, being non-turbo charged, "hot spots" within should not reach temperatures so high that it can damage anything. You will want a good quality fully-synthetic oil to ensure the oil do not break down prematurely over time.

 

At this point, the oil around these "hot spots" are, hotter.

 

The main issue is when the Vezel start the car when you lift off the brakes. The engine kicks back to life, and what happens next is crucial to why I keep preaching thin engine oils. Usually after we start engine, we accelerate, and this causes the greatest engine stress. Why? Remember the hotter oil around the "hot spots"? We WANT these hot oil to conduct the heat and flow as fast away to other regions, and cooler oil to quench the region, in preparation for the immediate acceleration segment. Do you think, compared with thicker, and thus more viscous (slower flow) engine oil, which will be more harmful to the engine in the long run?

 

Start-stop equipped Engines REQUIRE good quality thin engine oil. Honda will not anyhow put W30 in their manual for fun. The hybrids LEBs require even thinner W20 oils, right in the manual.

 

The age-old lore about our climate requiring W40 oil is kind of bulls**t. You guys bought the Vezel over the HR-V. This means you all are technically more savvy, more informed than the masses, and at the end of the day, fortune favours the bold.

 

Peace, Vezelers.

Bro, I cannot praise u enough (I need to praise 8 more people before I can send you praise).

 

Since my WS also do not carry w30 EO, I purchase directly fm Liqui Moly 0w30 synthetic oil for $100+. My WS charge me extra labor cost & changing of filter for $60+. Total I spend $170+ inclusive of GST for my 5K servicing. Engine become quieter, smoother and more responsive. My WS also told me the same bulls**t about Singapore climate & traffic condition that we should use w40. Frankly I really do not understand what is so difficult to get w30 EO for us.

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yes, they told me to top up $50 which I am reluctant to pay. In the end, used what they recommended (15w40). According to the mechanics, the next will be 5w40 synthetic (10k servicing). Also, the WS does not have w30 synthetic, they only have mineral. As such, got to top up $120 more due to more frequent servicing (10k vs 5k). Asked them whether can I buy my oil and they just top up. They said yes but still have to top up $50. [confused][confused]

 

What workshop is that? so lousy.

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Bro~domz

 

Any kind night souls out there can pm me their deals with PI?

I am going for Leco Prestige, but I cant find whether they are direct importer of vezel..

Please please please please .... help me .. newbies aka wanabe vezelbies

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My PI says the CEV rebate for ordering new batch is 15k.. the CEV rebate for his exstock of vezel is 10k.. i decided to order for the new batch and wait for arrival.. isit wise?

if no diff in price,go for 10k rebate unit

i believe its it opens coming Monday till Wed. I also placed 10k as deposit for COE bidding next week.

 

I just got back from Exodus global down at sin ming road. they got a 5days promo (thats what I heard) and their deal for the Vezel X is really very attractive. Black only though.

not sure if i can post it here, but u can pm me if you need the details :)

haha bro i thot u booked liao

Was at turf city. Visit a few PI. All expect loan of 60%, 5 years. Otherwise if no take loan, car price will be 3k-3.5k more. Got turn off on hearing these.

agree bro..the ones who r flexible.r easier to work with..more genuine

Bro~domz

 

Any kind night souls out there can pm me their deals with PI?

I am going for Leco Prestige, but I cant find whether they are direct importer of vezel..

Please please please please .... help me .. newbies aka wanabe vezelbies

i like ur picture hehe..cute..pm u

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if no diff in price,go for 10k rebate unit

 

haha bro i thot u booked liao

 

agree bro..the ones who r flexible.r easier to work with..more genuine

 

i like ur picture hehe..cute..pm u

 

Rational bro : ty :D

 

Been thinking of AD VS PI and HR-V VS Vezel for 2 consecutive days. read you guys threads and review .

I very "Ham Ji" about PI

but .... I cannot ignore Vezel lovely spec ....

HR-V headlight halogen seems like cannot make it also ..

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Rational bro : ty :D

 

Been thinking of AD VS PI and HR-V VS Vezel for 2 consecutive days. read you guys threads and review .

I very "Ham Ji" about PI

but .... I cannot ignore Vezel lovely spec ....

HR-V headlight halogen seems like cannot make it also ..

bro..go facebook search for Singapore Vezel /HRV Group to join.. i organising meetup sunday nite. if u have not booked by then..u may wanna join us and can share alot of stuff. cheers

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bro..go facebook search for Singapore Vezel /HRV Group to join.. i organising meetup sunday nite. if u have not booked by then..u may wanna join us and can share alot of stuff. cheers

 

joined le . still pending status ...

Would like to go if the timing is okie.

My shortlisted PI is like asking me to confirm by sunday noon ...

Now very panicky lol [bounce1]

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joined le . still pending status ...

Would like to go if the timing is okie.

My shortlisted PI is like asking me to confirm by sunday noon ...

Now very panicky lol [bounce1]

y so rush one..gd PI dun push..only inform.u time frame then let u choose wats suitable

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y so rush one..gd PI dun push..only inform.u time frame then let u choose wats suitable

 

maybe the PI see my thru know that I super newbies ....

 

They calling me robert choi

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