Pioneer AVH-X8750BT

[Mitlancer71]

Hi Folks,

 

I have an extra Brand New pair of CD-MU200 interface cable for Android Auto & Mirrorlink for your AVH-8750BT.

Mine working fine with my Note 3.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Accessories/Smartphone-and-iPod-Cables/CD-MU200

 

Anyone keen please PM me.

 

[Melbs]

Can lightning cable support video playing?

Carplay does not have video playing capability, go read on apple carplay's website for what it does or doesnt.

 

So no, your lightning cable cant and will not play videos.

 

Even using pioneers os, you need the av hdmi adapter to play videos

 

was eyeing on this HU but noticed your comment that it doesn't support Apple Lossless format, that's a big blow as most of the audio files are in that format ... does anyone know which HU support Apple Lossless format?

Play alac via iphone or your ipad or your ipod, or whatever apple devices you have and plug thru usb.

[Jl255]

How is the song management like in terms of display and searching? User-friendly? I have thousands of songs sorted according to genres, artist, album names and i am thinking of attaching a 128gb SD card to this unit to play the songs.

 

Oh, i have many songs in m4a format as well. Can play?

[LukePang]

Hi , had anyone install the 8750BT on a 2014 Mazda 6 ? Does the unit fit properly in the console ?

 

[Augus]

Hi,

I just had AVH-X8750BT installed but encountering an issue with CarPlay screen.

The HU was showing the CarPlay app screen in a blown-up (zoomed in) mode.

Instead of the usual 4 icons x 2 rows, I ended up with 3 icons x 1 row.

 

Initially, CarPlay was displaying fine. But the issue occurred after I installed the HDMI cable and tried using AppRadio.

 

Anyone encountered the same problem?

[Leelk]

How is the song management like in terms of display and searching? User-friendly? I have thousands of songs sorted according to genres, artist, album names and i am thinking of attaching a 128gb SD card to this unit to play the songs.

 

Oh, i have many songs in m4a format as well. Can play?

 

128Gb of compressed music, that number of songs may be too much for the HU. searching will also be a pain if you go by the artist / album names etc, you have to continuously scroll, and the HU does lag when the list get too long.

 

If you organised them into folders and search through folder it might be fine but I have not tried that. My USB is only 32Gb and the songs are in looseless FLAC format which is about 10 times larger than mp3. Even so the HU does feel a bit lag responding to scrolling.

 

m4a is AAC format. It is supported - see Pioneer website.

http://www.pioneer.com.sg/sg/products-detail/index.html/?product=AVH-X8750BT

Carplay does not have video playing capability, go read on apple carplay's website for what it does or doesnt.

 

So no, your lightning cable cant and will not play videos.

 

Even using pioneers os, you need the av hdmi adapter to play videos

 

Play alac via iphone or your ipad or your ipod, or whatever apple devices you have and plug thru usb.

 

 

As far as I know, iphone / ipod does not support the Looseless format. 8750 supports AAC the loosy format.

 

The good news is 8750 support FLAC looseless format. Do just do a conversion will do.

[Jl255]

how much are they selling this unit?

 

my PI quoting me an additional $1300 to install this unit with ipod and android adapter.

[Melbs]

 

128Gb of compressed music, that number of songs may be too much for the HU. searching will also be a pain if you go by the artist / album names etc, you have to continuously scroll, and the HU does lag when the list get too long.

 

If you organised them into folders and search through folder it might be fine but I have not tried that. My USB is only 32Gb and the songs are in looseless FLAC format which is about 10 times larger than mp3. Even so the HU does feel a bit lag responding to scrolling.

 

m4a is AAC format. It is supported - see Pioneer website.

http://www.pioneer.com.sg/sg/products-detail/index.html/?product=AVH-X8750BT

 

 

As far as I know, iphone / ipod does not support the Looseless format. 8750 supports AAC the loosy format.

 

The good news is 8750 support FLAC looseless format. Do just do a conversion will do.

 

apple has its own lossless format which is called ALAC, which you obviously can put into all your apple music player products then connect to your pioneer head unit via usb

Hi,

I just had AVH-X8750BT installed but encountering an issue with CarPlay screen.

The HU was showing the CarPlay app screen in a blown-up (zoomed in) mode.

Instead of the usual 4 icons x 2 rows, I ended up with 3 icons x 1 row.

 

Initially, CarPlay was displaying fine. But the issue occurred after I installed the HDMI cable and tried using AppRadio.

 

Anyone encountered the same problem?

re start your iphone, and you should be fine afterwards, unless you use appradio again then it will go "zoomed" again when you use carplay once more

[Augus]

Melbs - thank you. I supposed it is a bug then.

[Jl255]

how much are they selling this unit?

 

my PI quoting me an additional $1300 to install this unit with ipod and android adapter.

anyone?

[Melbs]

Melbs - thank you. I supposed it is a bug then.

 

yes its a bug, this happens not only in my 8750bt but also in my 8650bt

[Augus]

 

yes its a bug, this happens not only in my 8750bt but also in my 8650bt

Even Pioneer SG didn't know about this. I called them for support and they said they will try to replicate that issue and it was more than a week ago.

[Augus]

Next question: how best to set the time alignment?

I am a lazy fellow and would like to know if there are places that can help with this.

[Melbs]

Next question: how best to set the time alignment?

I am a lazy fellow and would like to know if there are places that can help with this.

 

if you have a simple 4 channel coaxial system (2 front speakers and 2 rear speakers) then you simply set the head unit's main occupant's location to your main preferred focal point, normally its the driver as you drive the car, unless you are chauffeured, then set it to front passenger if you ride shotgun or to all if you sit at the back.

 

then from the speaker nearest you, get any measuring device (tape or metro) to check the distance from speaker to your head. do the same for the other speakers. from this base distance (cm) input it to your head unit's time aligns' front and rear left and right channels.

 

listen to tracks with a center vocals, i use emma competition cd or iasca stage technical tracks and then adjust accordingly until you really hear the center to be center, far right to be far right, etc.

 

of course if you have a more complex system like i do, then i use the time align differently. since my system uses focal flax fx speaker which is bi ampable plus a sub, i used the rear channels of our hu output to the tweeters. then i used the front channel output of our hu to the midbass woofer which is also placed in front of the car. why? so i can simply hear the bluetooth calls that i receive using the car's speaker as our hu only uses the front channel for bluetooth calls.

 

anyway back to time align, given my setup is that way or what they call semi active, i use the hu's time align's front and rear for only the front speakers (tweeter - R and midbass - F) and sub. this way the staging and imaging is better, so the overall sound quality is also better. yup, i don't have any rear speakers.

 

caveat, if you use a component system in front using a passive xover which isn't biampable, meaning tweeter and midbass are connected and powered only by 1 channel, your front stage will be out of whack as normally the tweeters aren't the same distance as your midbass woofer to your head and them being as one, the time alignment will never be as focused. you will hear the tweeters first and voices/instruments from the midbass woofer after, creating scattered voices/instruments whose frequencies are both played by tweeter and midbass.

Edited August 7, 2015 by Melbs

[rovwei]

Any bro tried using 8750bt with android phone?

 

Can control phone by touching 8750bt? Youtube showing only control by phone..

 

Currently deciding either pioneer 8750bt or kenwood dnn9350.. any advice?

[Augus]

 

if you have a simple 4 channel coaxial system (2 front speakers and 2 rear speakers) then you simply set the head unit's main occupant's location to your main preferred focal point, normally its the driver as you drive the car, unless you are chauffeured, then set it to front passenger if you ride shotgun or to all if you sit at the back.

 

then from the speaker nearest you, get any measuring device (tape or metro) to check the distance from speaker to your head. do the same for the other speakers. from this base distance (cm) input it to your head unit's time aligns' front and rear left and right channels.

 

listen to tracks with a center vocals, i use emma competition cd or iasca stage technical tracks and then adjust accordingly until you really hear the center to be center, far right to be far right, etc.

 

of course if you have a more complex system like i do, then i use the time align differently. since my system uses focal flax fx speaker which is bi ampable plus a sub, i used the rear channels of our hu output to the tweeters. then i used the front channel output of our hu to the midbass woofer which is also placed in front of the car. why? so i can simply hear the bluetooth calls that i receive using the car's speaker as our hu only uses the front channel for bluetooth calls.

 

anyway back to time align, given my setup is that way or what they call semi active, i use the hu's time align's front and rear for only the front speakers (tweeter - R and midbass - F) and sub. this way the staging and imaging is better, so the overall sound quality is also better. yup, i don't have any rear speakers.

 

caveat, if you use a component system in front using a passive xover which isn't biampable, meaning tweeter and midbass are connected and powered only by 1 channel, your front stage will be out of whack as normally the tweeters aren't the same distance as your midbass woofer to your head and them being as one, the time alignment will never be as focused. you will hear the tweeters first and voices/instruments from the midbass woofer after, creating scattered voices/instruments whose frequencies are both played by tweeter and midbass.

Hmmm

I done mine 5 years back and I do not know the technicalities.

It should be a full active setup with

- 1 amp powering front: 2 tweeters, 4 mids

- 1 amp powering back: 2 tweeters, 2 mids

- 1 amp for my sub

 

Since I changed the hu, I find the sound stage kind of messy. Wanted to see who can re-tune it.

[Melbs]

Hmmm

I done mine 5 years back and I do not know the technicalities.

It should be a full active setup with

- 1 amp powering front: 2 tweeters, 4 mids

- 1 amp powering back: 2 tweeters, 2 mids

- 1 amp for my sub

 

Since I changed the hu, I find the sound stage kind of messy. Wanted to see who can re-tune it.

 

ok i think you have

 

3 way in front (tweeter-midrange-midbass)

 

2 way at the back (tweeter-midbass)

 

and a sub

 

now to confirm, do you have a processor installed? normally audison, alpine h800, mosconi, jbl ms8 are the brands

 

if you don't then i'm sure you are running passive and not full active, meaning your front 3 way speakers are just connected to one passive xover that is powered by 1 channel from your amp.

 

to further confirm, is your amp 2 channel for front? 2 channel for back? and perhaps another 2 channel that is bridged for your sub

 

either way if your amp powering the front has only 2 channels then you are running passive

 

if that's the case, then you are out of luck, as 3 way speakers are best installed with processor (only pioneer p99 hu has capability for a 3 way front full active with proper time alignment) as a processor will have its own time alignment for each of your 3 way speakers in front.

 

what you can do is add at least a 6 channel processor just to fix your time alignment in front.

 

just imagine 6 speakers in front all arriving in different time to your ears, not to mention the rear speakers also has an effect as it pulls your stage to the back (you don't watch concerts where the singer is at the back dont you?)

 

so i suggest you simply add a processor to time align your front 3 way, but that entails adding a 4 channel amp to power your speakers in front.

 

a cheap way is to just time align your front mid range only, meaning the speakers in front that is the middle in size, not the tweeters which are the smallest, and not the midbass which are the biggest.

 

your midrange speakers are where the vocal frequencies come from, so its best to measure from them till your head on both sides. see if it improves. still, your high freq will be out of whack, you will hear a sudden cymbals floating somewhere.

Edited August 7, 2015 by Melbs

[Augus]

 

ok i think you have

 

3 way in front (tweeter-midrange-midbass)

 

2 way at the back (tweeter-midbass)

 

and a sub

 

now to confirm, do you have a processor installed? normally audison, alpine h800, mosconi, jbl ms8 are the brands

 

if you don't then i'm sure you are running passive and not full active, meaning your front 3 way speakers are just connected to one passive xover that is powered by 1 channel from your amp.

 

to further confirm, is your amp 2 channel for front? 2 channel for back? and perhaps another 2 channel that is bridged for your sub

 

either way if your amp powering the front has only 2 channels then you are running passive

 

if that's the case, then you are out of luck, as 3 way speakers are best installed with processor (only pioneer p99 hu has capability for a 3 way front full active with proper time alignment) as a processor will have its own time alignment for each of your 3 way speakers in front.

 

what you can do is add at least a 6 channel processor just to fix your time alignment in front.

 

just imagine 6 speakers in front all arriving in different time to your ears, not to mention the rear speakers also has an effect as it pulls your stage to the back (you don't watch concerts where the singer is at the back dont you?)

 

so i suggest you simply add a processor to time align your front 3 way, but that entails adding a 4 channel amp to power your speakers in front.

 

a cheap way is to just time align your front mid range only, meaning the speakers in front that is the middle in size, not the tweeters which are the smallest, and not the midbass which are the biggest.

 

your midrange speakers are where the vocal frequencies come from, so its best to measure from them till your head on both sides. see if it improves. still, your high freq will be out of whack, you will hear a sudden cymbals floating somewhere.

Thanks for your advice.

 

Just look up my receipts.

I have 2 x 4 channels amp powering the front and rears. Have a MTX 3 way crossover for the front but no processor.

 

Do drop me a private message if you have a shop to recommend who can install and tune the system.