Anti-Roll bars and Strut bars

[Panda]

Looks like you're a firm believer of "Designed and Built for specific make and model"

 

I do agree... prolly the money gets poured into the research and all the tests etc rather than the metal mould.

 

Generally most good reputation car companies are responsible lah... I'm sure they dun wanna sell u a lemon design and throw away a life-time of branding effort.

[Flaser]

Wah piang... $400 ah? Might as well spend it on something else more important, like upgrading the brakes, or performance tyres?

[Luckcent]

Not necessary ex $$$ cause can diy yourself.

[Soya]

no choice but to go wif oem strut bar coz first of all, volvo mods dun come by easily and aftermarket ones like heico are even more ex; abt $600+!!

 

plus, the volvo strut bar has apparently been crash tested too. (so typically volvo.... )

[Panda]

WOW!

 

That's the best man... wahahaha dun need R&D or design lah... as long as it fits in, just make the biggest, the meanest, the thickest and single piece weld right onto your strut tower!

 

Confirm the best one. Rock steady.

[Panda]

which always brings me back to this question by the way, does a properly designed strut bar improve safety in collision? whether from side or front or near A-pillars...

[Soya]

not too sure abt that but it might resist chassis deformation better as the front body structure is more rigid.

[Panda]

Yeah... I guess additional metal usually would, but that's why I was thinking that would have defeated the safety features of the impact absorbing "crumple zones" etc...

 

I'll try to read up... but anyone has any opinions / experience / reading resources regarding this issue?

[Luckcent]

Thats right, what I have done is make a solid steel bar across the struts tower and it performs better than the after market products that made of aluminium and it is so much cheaper.

[Phochem]

yeah..... was wondering izzit wrong pricing... . $400++ can do many things arh.

[Phochem]

yup i really find that its really at that price. it will be really useless if were to get such quality strut bar without a good sets of rims/tyres.

 

 

 

wahh... i tot volvo very 'zai' one, still need to install strut bar? You must really push you car hard arh.

[Phochem]

yes, the same guy there told me TRD braided brake hose cost $400++ as well. Which i really think that toyota must be earning big bucks.

[Wrxblue]

if you want..you can find out more here

 

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/....htm#Suspension

 

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/...ex.htm#Handling

 

http://www.turnfast.com/tech_handling/handling.lasso

 

http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/i...sion_bible.html

 

Edited August 26, 2003 by Wrxblue

[King]

thks

 

how about double wish bone?

[Wrxblue]

wish bone....

 

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/...pension2.htm#DW

 

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/...tm#Sus%20design

 

summary...

Advantage: Ideal camber control leads to good handling.

 

Disadvantage: Space engaging and costly.

 

Who use it ? American sports cars and some sedans, most European pure sports cars like Ferrari, TVR, Lotus .... some Euopean sedans, most Honda .... many many many.

 

Note:

Good Suspension must :

 

1) Provide independent shock absorption to individual wheels. That means, when one wheel rides over a hump, the shock will not be transferred to other wheels.

 

2) Has adequate body roll. Excessive body roll leads to too much weight transfer thus influence the steering response. It is not comfortable too. Restrict body roll to minimal may create uncomfortable feeling because of excessive g-force. Moreover, body roll could provide information to the driver, telling him the state of cornering and whether the car has reached its limit. Completely eliminate body roll is not at all good.

 

3) Has a good geometry such that wheel cambers remain unchanged in all conditions, that is, acceleration, braking, cornering, load and bumps.

 

Body roll suppression usually conflict with ride comfort, because the former requires stiffer spring and dampers while the latter vice versa. Nevertheless, clever suspension geometry may improve body roll without altering the ride.

Edited August 26, 2003 by Wrxblue

[Panda]

Now talk about DIY! You're one level above! You're performance parts DIY too!

 

Not many people with have the guts, the imagination or the know how to do it.

[Panda]

400+ for the TRD original front tower bar is the rite price.

[Panda]

Thanks!