Jackfoo 1st Gear September 14, 2003 Share September 14, 2003 Saw this 2 products from 1 of the local magazine, claim that able to compress more air into engine cylinder/air intake system ........ Questions: Will it "hurt" the engine or cylinder? or anythings related? Understand that this product will create an "suction" or "vacuum" at 1 of the end if smaller particles went through this filter will it cause any damage to the engine/cylinder. As no much information (data) will given in local mag. on how this product works. Anybody able to shine some lights on this topic? Thank you ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King 1st Gear September 14, 2003 Share September 14, 2003 From what i heard..... Installation is ok,is the tuning part ,it seem a lot of mech is not able to do it efficienlty.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester Neutral Newbie September 14, 2003 Share September 14, 2003 I think it works better for carb cars, imo. I was looking at one few days back. From the way the mech talked about the installation to the way it is used, I dun have any confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saaber Neutral Newbie September 14, 2003 Share September 14, 2003 Hi, Welcome to MCF, Do join us for our weekly meetup... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackfoo 1st Gear September 15, 2003 Author Share September 15, 2003 Goodday Saaber, Thank you ..... will try to join U all for the weekly meetup. jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saaber Neutral Newbie September 15, 2003 Share September 15, 2003 hope to see u there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esky Neutral Newbie September 15, 2003 Share September 15, 2003 From my understanding, its working principle is similar to that of the Air Injector, whereby a small volume of air bypasses the carburetor/air flow sensor when going into the engine thru the E68, therefore giving leaner a/f mixture and better fuel economy. www.micro-compressor.com Oh yeah, it has a magnet in it to supposedly break down the air molecules so that it burns better, just like how the MagFuel or other fuel magnets break down the chunky fuel molecules into smaller bits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondeo Neutral Newbie September 16, 2003 Share September 16, 2003 E68 is best for those NA cars, same thing with compressor/PBV. HK's product and uses for the Vtech engine cars most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie September 17, 2003 Share September 17, 2003 Saw this 2 products from 1 of the local magazine, claim that able to compress more air into engine cylinder/air intake system ........ Questions: Will it "hurt" the engine or cylinder? or anythings related? Understand that this product will create an "suction" or "vacuum" at 1 of the end if smaller particles went through this filter will it cause any damage to the engine/cylinder. As no much information (data) will given in local mag. on how this product works. Anybody able to shine some lights on this topic? Thank you no lah... basically gets more air into the cylinders to improve power. Dun think it puts in that much that it can damage the engine - although your car will run hotter because of the leaning out of the fuel/air mix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie September 17, 2003 Share September 17, 2003 From what i heard..... Installation is ok,is the tuning part ,it seem a lot of mech is not able to do it efficienlty.... should be able to tell. If tuned wrongly - e.g. open to big, your idle rev will go up - and car will creep forward if you driving auto. If open too small, then no effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esky Neutral Newbie September 19, 2003 Share September 19, 2003 On some cars, these gadgets let in air that bypasses the air flow meter, effectively leaning out the a/f mixture, coz the ECU thinks there's less air than the actual volume flowing into the engine, therefore instructing the injectors to shoot less fuel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoong Neutral Newbie September 19, 2003 Share September 19, 2003 if open too wide, too lean a/f ration may cause detonation and up the lorry. many ppl do not know wat it does. to get max performace, open high air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoong Neutral Newbie September 19, 2003 Share September 19, 2003 the suction is generated and a characteristic of an engine for other function. is the illigal leak is healty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie September 20, 2003 Share September 20, 2003 True... that's why best thing to do after adding such a device is to go for a dyno and adjust the A/F mix to optimise the performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie September 20, 2003 Share September 20, 2003 dun think you can open it THAT wide for detonation to occur lah.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie September 20, 2003 Share September 20, 2003 well, on idle usually there's no additional air, only when you accelerate it allows more air into the combustion chamber for better performance w/o revving as hard. So maybe it's bad, but so is revving hard all the time ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esky Neutral Newbie September 21, 2003 Share September 21, 2003 Actually the general perception is that car manufacturers set the a/f ratio to slightly richer than needed, so that if something went wrong and leaned out the a/f slightly, it's still within a safe limit... not forgetting that they also wanna safeguard their own backside! So, in order to get slight improvements in fuel economy and response, some of us here have itchy hands and install Air Injectors/AirMax/E68/etc. to lean out the a/f back to the "optimum" (at least to those who spent money on the gadget and trying to justify the $ spent!) ratio. Detonation with too much air? I don't think so... as too much air will decrease performance, and you'll rush to richen it back WAAAAAAY before detonation has a chance to happen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esky Neutral Newbie September 21, 2003 Share September 21, 2003 Depending on which type of air injector you've installed, there can be little or no extra air during idling. AFAIK only the Ecotek lets in no extra air during idling because it has a spring-loaded valve... u can still let in air during idling but the instruction tells u to adjust it so that air only goes in when RPM is above idling. And when revving hard, these air injector gadgets don't really work anymore as they depend on vacuum to suck in extra air... wide open throttle = little or no vacuum = little/no air sucked thru the AI. For me, I set my AI so that it lets in quite a bit of air during idling, to cut fuel consumption during idling! Of coz there's a limit to leaning out the a/f, as overdoing it will decrease power and increase combustion temperature! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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