Vtim 3rd Gear October 22, 2003 Share October 22, 2003 yar loh, only know have to tell the private sectors to cut pay but neber lead by example have you heard, about 60 from sales kanna, either yesterday or the day before wonder which dept will be next ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hktan Neutral Newbie October 23, 2003 Share October 23, 2003 The rich will become richer and the poor will become poorer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear October 23, 2003 Share October 23, 2003 and the middle income kanna squeeze, neither here nor there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie October 23, 2003 Author Share October 23, 2003 Nowadays all employers are squeezing everyone's rice bowl. only those garment are not affected not that true... only some rungs of gahmen... others have lower pay to begin with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie October 23, 2003 Author Share October 23, 2003 so true, so true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie October 23, 2003 Author Share October 23, 2003 unfortunately, the true fact of life in almost all developed economies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear October 24, 2003 Share October 24, 2003 yes, I was referring to those 'rungs' of gahmen lar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear October 24, 2003 Share October 24, 2003 yes, don't we all feel the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie October 25, 2003 Author Share October 25, 2003 realised that when I read another one of your posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vtim 3rd Gear October 25, 2003 Share October 25, 2003 don't worry, I'm not talking about you lar! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie October 26, 2003 Author Share October 26, 2003 phew.... for a moment there.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cyrix Neutral Newbie August 19, 2004 Share August 19, 2004 Hi... to the best of my knowledge (which is indeed limited ) (1) shouldn't cause any problem on your ECU - for Buddy Club, what happens is it sits between the engine and ECU for those areas it controls - so basically it takes over from the ECU - and such functions would be 'superceded'. (2) if it is a piggy back, then your base ECU will remain intact - only full ECU replacements would require removal of ECU. But to be honest I am not that familiar with superchip - if it is one of those that overwrites the ECU program - then your ECU would no longer be stock. Not sure what would happen if you reset your ECU for superchip. For Buddy Club, am told the programming will remain intact even after an ECU reset (or battery disconnect). For those overwrite programs - dunno. (3) the piggy back only overwrites the signals that it controls - other signals are not affected - so your airbag/brakes etc should be not touched. Hope this helps. hi bro....peisay peisay...but find ur discussion of piggyback very interesting.... but just one question and I hope you can enlighten me...if i go for piggyback... i heard from somebody tt the ECU will recompensate itself and cause the piggyback to have no effect at all...is there such incident happening???....does it mean tt once the piggyback i set...it will not change liao???...eg due to power loss of some other events????...can pls advice.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeldriver Neutral Newbie August 20, 2004 Author Share August 20, 2004 Hiya.... On your question about the ECU recompensating - that should not be the case of a piggyback - because what the piggyback does is it sits between the engine and the ECU - effectively taking over the fuel mapping control (and in the case of the Buddy Club Racing Spec B - the auto shift point also). So whatever the ECU does in the end would not reach the engine anyway. Some discussions are around more other bolt on devices, which changes the air volume into the engine. The ECU may sense more air and eventually adjusts to maintain the same fuel/air mix. Not an expert here, but more air/fuel sooner should still translate to more power ? It also depends on how much the ECU adjusts itself since there's also the trottle position it has to sense ?? Maybe some other ECU programming expert in the forum can comment here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrix Neutral Newbie August 20, 2004 Share August 20, 2004 hiya bro...very interesting....me getting more n more interested into how exactly a piggyback work liao.....can u explain more???....shifu....hahhahahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normal_aspirated Clutched August 21, 2004 Share August 21, 2004 Most piggy-bags "hijack" the airlfow sensor signal and fool the ECU to to believe what it wants to do. Good tuners using dynos will give best results. Some newer piggy-bags can hijack the O2 sensors to prevent overriding by the ECU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrix Neutral Newbie August 21, 2004 Share August 21, 2004 so bro...which is the most common piggyback nowadays???...and how much it cost and where to install???? any ideas????..... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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