Andrewkb Neutral Newbie January 7, 2004 Share January 7, 2004 I've my wheel aligned and according to the printed report, it says: Front Left Toe: 0.1mm (Manufacturer recommendation: IN 0 +/- 3) Right Toe: 0.1mm (Manufacturer recommendation: IN 0 +/- 3) Left Camber: -1.6deg (Manufacturer recommendation: 0 +/- 45') Right Camber: -1.5deg (Manufacturer recommendation: 0 +/- 45') Rear Left Toe: -0.2mm (Manufacturer recommendation: IN 1 +/- 3) Right Toe: -0.2mm (Manufacturer recommendation: IN 1 +/- 3) Left Camber: -0.7deg (Manufacturer recommendation: -1 +/- 45') Right Camber: -1.1deg (Manufacturer recommendation: -1 +/- 45') Are the above ok ? P.S: I went back to have my steering wheel straightened after the alignment, and I do not have the report again. Will the adjustment go out and should I go back to Stamford Tyre to request for another report ? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 For most cars, if you have a positive front toe reading - generally the setting for the wheel camber should be also positive. The positive camber setting will offset tyre wear cause by positive toe setting.Hardly come across cars with front negative toe setting For racing purpose, many drives set the front camber to negative in order to get the best road holding - tyre wear is not important. The wheel steering should be set when setting the wheel toe. Present cars come with air bag " clock-spring" set in the steering column and it need skill to dismantle and re-position the steering wheel. Due to the difficulties and lack of proper steering wheel puller, many mechanics set the steering wheel just by resetting the wheel toe. HTH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewkb Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Author Share January 8, 2004 Wow ! Cheam ! Anyhow, they did the steering wheel alignment w/o using the InfraRed/Laser machine. Should I go back Stamford Tyre and demand to redo again ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewkb Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Author Share January 8, 2004 BTW, TOE "IN" is +ve or -ve ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saaber Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 read here: http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gforum.cgi?post=133930;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=un read#unread://http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gfo...=un read#unread://http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gfo...=un read#unread://http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gfo...=un read#unread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 TOE-In is +ve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangie Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 Think its negative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 Lets get the wheel alignment basic right. Look at the data given by Andrewwkb Front wheel - the camber reading is wrong. With positive toe the camber angle it should be set to positive Rear wheel - the camber reading is negative. The toe set is correct - negative ( most of the independ rear wheels are set at negative toe and negative camber so as to provide stabilty when the car takes a sharp corner. The understanding the basic of wheel alignment and interpretating the wheel wear patterns is extremely critical in deciding how to go about in setting the wheel angles and by doing so remove the present fault. Just by bindly following the compturised wheel aligner data to set the angles is far from acceptable. The computerised wheel aligner will function to the best only when it is man by professional auto technicians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewkb Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Author Share January 8, 2004 Does that mean that I should get them to redo again ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E36UDM Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 (edited) From your report can see that you have lowered your car causing your camber to be more -ve but like what Yeobh have mentioned toe in should be -ve Its better to toe in so cornering will be better So in your case your setup will save you $$$$ as your tyres will wear off slower as your toe in almost zero but cornering........ Anyway adjustment to the steering wheel will not affect your alignment Just my 2 cents Edited January 8, 2004 by E36UDM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewkb Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Author Share January 8, 2004 So, can I keep it as it is ? BTW, upgraded from 195/65R15 to 215/45R17 and dropped by 2 fingers, I now get lots of feedback at the steering wheel and sometimes, I don't know if it's problem or if it's feedback from road surface. Example, travelling on badly paved road, especially those that are dug out and partially re-paved, when travelling with one wheel on the old tarmac and the other on the partially undulating tarmac, the steering wheel will feel like pulling left&right .. which I didn't encounter on the 195/65R15 ... so are these feedbacks or alignment errors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E36UDM Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 Since you change to 17"s (more contact with ground) then you will feel more Steering should feel slightly heavier as well. Pulling left and right probably is normal but in your case think toe abit too flat for my own liking which results in more 'feedback'. That means its sensitive to external factors like road condition etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewkb Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Author Share January 8, 2004 Any experience if Stamford will let me redo the alignment since I was there last week only (with invoice to proof) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E36UDM Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 Not too sure about that though sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E36UDM Neutral Newbie January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 Anyway would suggest you leave it as it is Coz ur setup is actually quite ok depending on how you sees it. No doubt your front is toe out being +ve but when u drive it will induce toe in. Ur toe out setup is for race cars which gives u better corner but suffer on straights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear January 8, 2004 Share January 8, 2004 If you do not exprience difficult in steering on straight road, cornering and over the next few weeks no special wear pattern appearing on the front wheels, then you can just leave it as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewkb Neutral Newbie January 20, 2004 Author Share January 20, 2004 Went to Stamford today to do my balancing and enquired about my toe-setting. The mech there told me 0.1mm is negligible and should be considered as Toe-Neutral... So he didn't do anything to it ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E36UDM Neutral Newbie January 20, 2004 Share January 20, 2004 Yup u will have more feedback from ur steering then ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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