Unknown_G7 Neutral Newbie October 9, 2002 Share October 9, 2002 This morning I went down to Leong Seng Ubi to change all my existing tires (195/50-15R). At first intended to have ES100 but it's cost $90 ea (my pocket sure to burn one hole ), so no choice asked for Kumho 712 that cost $65 ea (Save $100 for that ). To my surprise the tires were more quietier than my existing GOODYEAR EAGLE F1 and the grip had also improved. Maybe that's only the starting, will only know after few days. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver 1st Gear October 9, 2002 Share October 9, 2002 Wow!! sounds good... think i'll look for Kumho next time round.... btw... can anyone tell me.... which tyres get worn out faster? the front or the back ones?? as my tyres is newer on the front... and older at the rear... pls advise... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_G7 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Author Share October 10, 2002 If I'm not wrong, front tire always worn out first. Are you planning to change your tires? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightchaser Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 Does this brand come with 14" ? can buy 2 tyres only right me intending to change 2 that I suspect has uneven wear.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_G7 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Author Share October 10, 2002 Yes it did! You can even change one only! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seansene 1st Gear October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 Gosh! Then you'll have 1 tyre with really good grip while the rest... uh, I wouldn't really recommended it actually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_G7 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Author Share October 10, 2002 But there's still somebody who did that! Like my car that came with 3 different brand tire, one Michellin, one ? and two Goodyear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 That goes to show that we shouldn't judge a book by it's cover! IMO, Kumho 712 is a step above the ES100, performance wise, and similar with the Eagle F1. I'm still very happy with this tyre! Cheap and good! After scrubbing down, it will perform even better. However, it will get noisier too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 >> But there's still somebody who did that Then we shouldn't follow his example, as we are more knowlegable drivers now! It's OK to have different tyres on the front and back but the left and right should be of the same make. Ideally speaking, all tyres should be the same but it's not possible always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_G7 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Author Share October 10, 2002 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparetyre Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 Doc, what is the thread wear count for Kumho 712??? What's your view on the Toyo Vimode compare to Kumho 712? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selespeed156 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 Have you ever brake hard on these tyres? Tyres should be the same thread/type, at least for similar front ones and similar bacck ones. This would ensure same braking force to pevent swaying at much as possible. Tyres with different threads also make more noise. Change soon. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 My 712's threadwear is 280. No head to head comparo yet between the Vimode as I haven't tried the Vimode and my friend has not tried the 712! He did mention it's as good as his AVS Sports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparetyre Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 Any idea on the thread wear for the Vimode? That for the AVS Sport is 180..... So I am looking for the next set now.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selespeed156 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 Me using 215/45 R17 91W Kumho Ecsta 712 too. Quiet on staright runs but noisier when turing, due to side wall design. Good grip. Cheap and good, recommended by tyre shops too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 (edited) The funny thing is.............the 215/45 17" is the same or slightly cheaper than the 205/55 16"! Better not sing too much praise abt the 712 or it will surely get more ex! You mean tyre shops now recommend that tyre too? They used to say "better not use the tyre, Korean brand, you know......." Another plus is that most performance tyres from Japan are usually rated V (for 16 inchers anyway) while the 712 comes with a W rating. Edited October 10, 2002 by Mikeckchong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Share October 10, 2002 Tried going through Toyo website buy it's in Japanese. Didn't see any threadwear indication there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_G7 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2002 Author Share October 10, 2002 Have you ever brake hard on these tyres? Tyres should be the same thread/type, at least for similar front ones and similar bacck ones. This would ensure same braking force to pevent swaying at much as possible. Tyres with different threads also make more noise. Change soon. Cheers Whenever I brake hard, my steering will sway to one side. And very dangerous when driving at above 100kmh, my car will auto sway to next lane w/o my notice. Very pressure . Yesterday had changed all to K712. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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