Sunnyr76 Neutral Newbie July 7, 2005 Share July 7, 2005 actually, it's the Alternator that's the cause of voltage fluctuations as the DC is never clean. Only way to provide stable DC is from batteries or switching-mode power supplies, batteries will drain and we need the alternator to charge them up, as for switching-mode power supplies, maybe someone can design one than can be used for the car's electronics, eg. ECU, Sensors, Fuel Injectors hi bro. your avatar is . -> "bo tao XIONG yong" anyway, I'm newbie here after reading this thread, it seems like it a 'chicken & egg' thing... e.g. Egg come first? or Chicken come first?. Nevertheless, I tried Z-stab. and it works for my case. Yes I go agree, the effects there initially, after a while , it gone. IMHO, it is not goone.more explainably, the ECU had 'compensated' and your your humble right foot had got used to the effects. I had d/c-ed the Z-stab before, and *bingo*, i feel the effects IMMEDIATELY.... Having said that, it is also dependent on the ride, my point of view is my experiences with my own ride. I also do agree, if the thing is good, why does the manufacturer doesnt include it in?. Simple reasons, that I thought, "scale of economics"., and definitely the cost of the car will go up, and naturally the selling price. . Thus, IMHO, it is sort of like 'Buy & use @ your own risk.". if its works, for u. Else, , sell it it off . lastly, dont smoke me okay . I'm just a newbie here... voicing my 0.00000000001 cts of thoughts .:) ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverine Neutral Newbie July 7, 2005 Share July 7, 2005 Excerpts!! Electrical modifications (grounding/stabilising) Devices of this type include: Z-Stab As well as the air and fuel related devices decribed elsewhere on this site, there are also many products that claim to improve economy and/or power via changes to the vehicle electrical system. Chiefly these are grounding wires (to fit between the engine block and the vehicle body) and various voltage stabilisers. Certainly poor electrical systems can cause significant problems. Most obviously, a poor earth link between the engine and body makes starting very difficult, since there is a large voltage drop when the starter current (100 - 200A) passes through the high resistance. What is far less clear is that a vehicle whose electrical system is in pretty much "factory" condition could benefit from adding such devices. Modern vehicle wiring and ECUs are already designed to operate in a harsh electrical environment. They cope with conditions from maybe 8V starting with a nearly-flat battery to 16V on a boost charge, and with electrical interference from mobile telephones etc, without failure. The ECU runs internally at 5V or even less and is heavily stabilised to ensure the processor runs fault-free at all times. Many modern ECUs repeatedly self-check and would shut down the engine entirely if any kind of fault condition occurred. Overall, it is hard to envisage how a marginally more stable electrical supply could significantly improve engine economy, emissions or performance. Equally, extremely precise control of the engine is essential to meet today's strict emissions standards. If electrical problems really did lead to significant errors in fuel delivery or ignition timing on cars in good working order, it seems highly unlikely that such cars could pass emissions tests. It is also worth noting that engines are generally developed on test beds using highly stabilised power supplies (not using the vehicle alternator), but the test results and ECU settings carry over quite accurately to in-vehicle use - ie there is no obvious worsening in performance with the "less stable" supply. Where voltage stabilisers and the like probably are of benefit is in improving sound quality on in-car entertainment (ICE) systems, but that is not within the scope of this website! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear July 7, 2005 Share July 7, 2005 hi bro. your avatar is . -> "bo tao XIONG yong" everyone appreciated my avatar the last time I change to pics of my kids, have many messages asking me to put it back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnyr76 Neutral Newbie July 7, 2005 Share July 7, 2005 yah la bro. y change? keep it la :p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear July 8, 2005 Share July 8, 2005 yap, will keep it, until i can get something better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck69 Neutral Newbie August 9, 2005 Share August 9, 2005 Ever wonder what burnt the 2 cars in recent weeks? Could it be the "Chiong" voltage stabilzers that cannot heck the heat and current? Always pay a bit more for reassurance.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblackbox Neutral Newbie August 10, 2005 Share August 10, 2005 Hey ask u guys something ah.. pls correct me if i m wrong Volt stab is mean to keep a constant steady flow.. If there is excess chrage. it will keep, and if there is lack, it will gif out rite? So if the car is on the move. The alternater keeps charging the battery and there is excess, and the volt stab keeps the excess. SO my Question is. in the long run, will this shorten my battery life???? Sorry if my statment nt too clear.Ang Moh nt tht good.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tann Clutched August 11, 2005 Share August 11, 2005 (edited) Pivort selling S$90.00 plus fixing @GS (JB) opp Holiday Plaza Edited August 11, 2005 by Tann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fff0 Neutral Newbie October 8, 2005 Share October 8, 2005 Does the pivot u seen includes the grounding wires? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mivec9 1st Gear October 16, 2005 Share October 16, 2005 hi bro, have u installed ur VS n grounding wires? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fff0 Neutral Newbie October 18, 2005 Share October 18, 2005 nope, still doing survey which is good. Any advise for me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mivec9 1st Gear October 19, 2005 Share October 19, 2005 so far think max volts got the best rating...but from wat I see, this particular VS though improves the car immediately, it may drain the battery, hence shortened its lifespan...cos a number of hyundai bros who installed it had their batt totally flat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mivec9 1st Gear October 19, 2005 Share October 19, 2005 as for grounding..so far no proven improvement leh except for few bros who see slight improvement in their cars.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus 3rd Gear October 19, 2005 Share October 19, 2005 Huh?!? I think mine is max volts...... Hopefully it doesn't drain my battery too much cos I just got the battery earlier this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mivec9 1st Gear October 19, 2005 Share October 19, 2005 no worries bro...i mean out of the hundred plus vehicle that hobby installed, read only abt 2-3 hyundai bros got battery flat...maybe concidently their need changing mah.. Just installed pivot raizin stabilizer with 5 point grounding...immediately less engine vibration and quieter engine with better throttle..A/C also colder...good investment I must say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benboy78 Neutral Newbie October 21, 2005 Share October 21, 2005 Mine diesel ride. Got any daily diesel driver like me here I had trid a few brands liao. But endup Diy my own VS for my way of ride Happy Diy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mivec9 1st Gear October 21, 2005 Share October 21, 2005 think there shd be diesel ride bros here... wat brand VS u using bro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerboi Neutral Newbie October 21, 2005 Share October 21, 2005 (edited) I agree Pivot is a better brand. Anyone interested can pm me. Got lobang for it. Less than $150 with installation and come with 6 pts grounding. Edited October 21, 2005 by Powerboi ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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