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The Alfa Romeo 147 has won itself another important title by claiming the prestigious annual '24 Ore di Auto' held at the Misano circuit.

 

The race, held on the 11th and 12th of May, was organised as usual by 'Cars' magazine on the Adriatic Misano race track, and the winning car this year was a 1.6-litre TwinSpark powered Alfa 147.

 

This latest endurance victory comes just weeks after a JTD-powered Alfa 147 scorched to victory in the Nuerburgring 24 Hours, its third consecutive win in what is self-billed as the 'world's toughest race'. A former winner of highly prestigious 'European Car of the Year' award, these two latest victories prove that the Alfa 147, recently given its mid-life update, is just as dynamically fresh as ever.

 

The specialist Italian review publication each year organises a marathon twenty four hour race that puts to the test high-volumes models in order to determine their levels of reliability, durability and of course performance. This year the magazine chose petrol and diesel engined models from the hotly-contested C-segment, picking twenty one cars from eleven different manufacturers. All the cars chosen had 115 bhp available. As well as the Alfa 147 1.6TS, other strong rivals for the race included a Renault Megane 1.6 16v, Audi A3 1.6 FSI, Toyota Corolla 1.6 VVT and Honda Civic V-TEC Sport.

The driving duties were entrusted to a number of leading Italian and foreign motoring journalists, which included three of the top European specialist car magazines: Autocar from Great Britain, Autovisie from Holland, and ViBilagare from Sweden.

 

The journalists were joined by regular test drivers, and all drivers rotated between the cars over the twenty four hour period. Television coverage was provided by the cameras of Motor RAI TG2.

 

Always pushing the cars to the limit, the only stops permitted by the organisers were regular pit visits to change the pilots, refuel the cars, and to change the Michelin-supplied 'control' tyres and the brakes. The winning Alfa 147 1.6TS completed 642 laps of the Adriatic circuit which equated to 2606.5 kilometers. During the 24 hours they replaced the front brake pads once and the front tyres three times. The car used 626.1 litres of petrol during the run, which meant that the Alfa 147 travelled 4.163 km per litre of petrol.

 

IL 24 ORE DI AUTO, MAY 11/12, 2005 - RESULT: PETROL CATEGORY:

 

1st Alfa Romeo 147 1.6 TS 642 laps (2606.5km) av. speed 108,542 km/h, 2nd Honda Civic 1.6 V-TEC Sport +4 laps, 3rd Citro

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Not bad for the Japanese cars particularly Honda Vtec, given that they cost so much lesser than the Alfa. Now we can peer 147 on the road..just kidding.

 

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Hi! there, Kelpie,

 

FIA should replace F1 with this race, then more people, "read as new car buyers" can watch a 24-hour review of their new purchases. It'd be better if run in an around the world series.gossip.gif

 

Rgds

 

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The FC is just ridiculas. Even at constant WOT, a 1.6JTS engine should never give such a crap FC figure.

 

Performance Conti has rarely been known for FC efficiency. The important thing is it came in 1st with Honda 1.6 Vtec right finished at 2nd. Just Imagine Toyota VVTI came in 1st with better FC, lagi no face.

 

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Hi! there, Kelpie,

 

FIA should replace F1 with this race, then more people, "read as new car buyers" can watch a 24-hour review of their new purchases. It'd be better if run in an around the world series.

 

Rgds

 

Paul Yong

 

Very time consuming and costly to run for the car makers in the long term. I'm wondering why Mitsubishi lancer is absent. Too broke to run? Guess they only interested in promoting their EVO. What happened to Subaru Impreza here?

 

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how to read the results?

+4 laps means it's 4 laps slower?

 

did the site lists the cars that didn't make it at all?

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The FC is just ridiculas. Even at constant WOT, a 1.6JTS engine should never give such a crap FC figure.

 

Performance Conti has rarely been known for FC efficiency. The important thing is it came in 1st with Honda 1.6 Vtec right finished at 2nd. Just Imagine Toyota VVTI came in 1st with better FC, lagi no face.

 

Regards,

 

Im not sure about the FC, perhaps the cars were pushing the limits with mods and stuff. cos my 147 is giving me pretty gd FC, at abt 12 km/l with 95 octane. at 98, it was the high 11s.

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Im not sure about the FC, perhaps the cars were pushing the limits with mods and stuff. cos my 147 is giving me pretty gd FC, at abt 12 km/l with 95 octane. at 98, it was the high 11s.

 

You don't get it. Why would you spend so much on 147 or performance conti car if a Japanese car can outrun you and yet perform better in FC? So much emphasis on conti performance and yet can't deliver in this rally. The Japanese cars got 3 in top 5 positions. What happened to BMW and Audi, 10th and 8th position.

 

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"though they are slower."

 

Hi! there, ChevRo,

 

Speed test or not, FC for slower cars won't be better. Especially when you need to brake when approaching a corner or bend. That's why, a conti car will always have better FC during a long distance or fast run.

 

Rgds

 

Paul Yong

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"with mods and stuff"

 

Hi! there, Felipe,

 

These cars are straight out of the showroom, so, no mods and stuffs. When you run your car pedal to the metal, then you can report on the FC again.

 

When I did a run back fro K.L., pedal to the metal at every opportunity, my FC is only at 7+, compare to my daily average of 12+.

 

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Paul Yong

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if i got $$$ i buy the 147 again,

why?

just ask mad driver and the other driver that sit in a 'conti' car,when the 'conti' floor into a corner, u should see the expression on their face [laugh]

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Speed test or not, FC for slower cars won't be better. Especially when you need to brake when approaching a corner or bend. That's why, a conti car will always have better FC during a long distance or fast run.

 

Your theory seems to contradict with the result, right? can you explain why BMW came in 10th? The driver no good or the engine is not fast enough?

 

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