Yaloryalor 5th Gear April 12, 2007 Author Share April 12, 2007 My friend checked with KM, think they will bring in in about 3 months time? Not sure truth or not. Maybe they will bring in high-end specs and sell more ex. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear April 12, 2007 Author Share April 12, 2007 Some unpredictable factors, like the FC may change due engine gets older, petrol price will change, you may sell your car before 10 years,..etc. haha... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 actually hor, dont have to calculate until like that lar... btw, how many really drive their car for 10 years??.... it's just like if i save 50cents per meal, one day 3 meals for example, one day saving $1.50 , if 10 years, that's $5475 of cash!!... so, i better start ordering $2.50 chicken rice instead of $3 one and forget about ordering drink since i can bring my own from home....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuendi 3rd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 I am impressed with the speed of response from the KM person to my question of "Mazda5 vs Stream". Looks like I will be keeping my 2L G1 Stream till KM brings in the G2 2L version. Below is the cut-&-paste from the email I got.. Purpose is to share info I got, not to start any flaming war, so please dont start one. Thanks. -------------------------- I have tested the Mazda5 and Stream 1.8. Your current Stream will still beat both cars hands down as it is equipped with a 2L dohc i-VTEC engine. However, in terms of space and utility, the new Stream sets a standard that the Mazda5 cannot come close to. The Mazda5 2.0L engine develops the same horspower as the Stream 1.8L i-VTEC engine. Torque is also only 4 Nm better but Stream 174Nm peaks at a slightly lower rpm - 4300 compared to Mazda's 178Nm at 4500rpm. Overall this means the Stream 1.8 engine will feel more powerful compared to the Mazda's 2L. The Mazda5 is also crippled by its 4speed automatic gearbox. The Honda Stream is equipped with a 5speed AT just like your current 2L Stream. By having more gears Honda can stack the ratios closer in the first 4 for better in-gear acceleration response, the 5th gear remains an over drive ratio for superior fuel economy. Dynamics wise, the Stream also benefitted from its low centre of gravity design. Compared to the previous generation, the new Stream's platform is lowered by 45mm, owering the new car's centre of gravity, giving the new Stream a drive that is very close to a sporty sedan. Overall in terms of equipment, the Mazda5 is also equipped lesser. An example would be the air-conditioning system. So even though both cars is not equipped with a rear cooler, the Stream is equipped with a fully automatic climate control system which is superior to the Mazda5's manual item. With all these facts in mind, I would say that switching from your current Stream to a Mazda5 sounds like a down grade, but if you switch to a new Stream 1.8, you many only experience some slight inconvenience with the absence of the rear cooler, but based on personal experience, the seating arrangment is slightly improved with better headroom, legroom and accessibility for the last row. The folding mechanism for the last row is also improved. I am quite sure you will enjoy the new Stream much better than the Mazda5. Thank you. ------------------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 Try writing to Mazda,maybe different story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 (edited) From what I've heard ... Stream - SOHC Wish - DOHC Can anybody confirm? Yes Stream 1.8 is SOHC, Wish 1.8 is DOHC Civic and Stream share the same engine R18A During the launch of the new Civic, it was clear that Honda is quite proud of what they have managed to achieve with the new R18A engine for the new 8G Civic. What should now be clear from this article? Remember that 140ps max power output from a 1.8l engine can rightfully be considered 'very high spec', ignoring the standards set by Honda themselves with the original B18C engines. This can be supported if we compare the R18A output with those from competitors including 'high specification' twin-cam engines of similar size. For e.g. the 1.8l DOHC Twin-Spark engine used in the Alfa Romeos are delivering 140ps as are the 1.8l DOHC EFi engines used in the local (Malaysian made) hot-hatches like the Proton Satria GTi and Proton Putra. This is also comparable to the 1.8l Toyota Altis (138ps) and superior to the 1.8l Nissan Sentra (130ps). Coupled with potentially exceptional fuel economy (for a 1.8l engine) and specific characteristics targeted to please long time Honda enthusiasts, it is clear how technically advanced the new R18A engine is. I was truly impressed by how much technology was in the new R18A when I sat through the presentation. Ignore common misconceptions that 'SOHC means low tech while DOHC means high tech'. Owners of the new 8G Civic 1.8S should be proud and reassured that their new 1.8l SOHC i-VTEC engine is truly 'state of the art' ! WongKN September 2006 Edited April 12, 2007 by Route88 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahyoo2002 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 response from KM is indeed very fast, I wrote to them on Friday and their product manager reply me on Sat But as on the actual launching date of new Stream 1.8, they are not able to commit at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahyoo2002 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 to me SOHC and DOHC no diff as my car is now SOHC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahyoo2002 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 actually hor, dont have to calculate until like that lar... btw, how many really drive their car for 10 years??.... it's just like if i save 50cents per meal, one day 3 meals for example, one day saving $1.50 , if 10 years, that's $5475 of cash!!... so, i better start ordering $2.50 chicken rice instead of $3 one and forget about ordering drink since i can bring my own from home....... Agree with you and that is why I think important thing is you like the car, not buy it just because it has a better FC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 to me SOHC and DOHC no diff as my car is now SOHC SOHC is lighter and easier on the pocket to maintain...couple with timing chain,tat extra savings can buy handphones,PS3,NUVI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 Agree with you and that is why I think important thing is you like the car, not buy it just because it has a better FC. So conform la,u taking Stream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahyoo2002 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 1st choice: Stream UNLESS new Mazda 5 come with the same setup as JDM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 What is the spec for new M5...can post? How about external features,is it the same as the present? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahyoo2002 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 - Mazda has added 2.0L DISI engine-equipped models with five-speed automatic transmissions and a new sporty 20Z grade to the Premacy lineup in Japan - HIROSHIMA, Japan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 Mazda DISI engine,is it like Mitsubishi GDi ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahyoo2002 2nd Gear April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 I hope not and I had check with Mazda SE in SGP. They told me this engine use in Mazda 6 before, so is proven one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apong1471 Neutral Newbie April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 Post: I think you under estimated the new Stream's FC. My current 2L f/l Stream already can give me average 11km/l. The new Stream with the newer and more efficient engine can definitely give better FC than 10.5 to 11km/l. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i have drove my friend new stream for 3 days, can only achieve 11km/l average with 70% highway. When travel to Senai & back to S'pore (about 100km distance), manage to achieve about 13km/l. It's a good car indeed, cabin is quiet, gear change is very smooth, can easily reach 140km/hr at ease, good handling, managed to hit about 160km/hr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silveratenza Neutral Newbie April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 actually hor, dont have to calculate until like that lar... btw, how many really drive their car for 10 years??.... it's just like if i save 50cents per meal, one day 3 meals for example, one day saving $1.50 , if 10 years, that's $5475 of cash!!... so, i better start ordering $2.50 chicken rice instead of $3 one and forget about ordering drink since i can bring my own from home....... Bingo!!! That's my point...how many years of driving can save you on petrol alone? Unless you drive for 10years, maybe the figure will be significant, if not, it's like saving up a cup of coffee per day only. Not forgetting if the price gap of 2 different cars are like 10k plus apart...it won't make any sense even though can save you 1-2km/l on FC. As for one of the brothers mentioned that 1.8L and 2.0L have diff road tax...I agree, but then it will be cancelled off by the higher insurance premium on all Honda cars though...at least 10-15% higher... So back to square one... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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