Sillyme Neutral Newbie February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 I plan my schedule and travel time so that I not in the need to rush. I stick to lane 2. I seldom feel the need to overtake. 90% of my time, I have a pleasurable time driving. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si4dr 6th Gear February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 Let say, high traffic at lane 2 travel at 70km/h while I was at lane 1 at 95km/h maintain abt 3 car safety distance with long q in fornt. That mean I already consider continuously OVERTAKING lane 2 car so should i give way to the high speed car behind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogen82000 Neutral Newbie February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gturismo Neutral Newbie February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 Let say, high traffic at lane 2 travel at 70km/h while I was at lane 1 at 95km/h maintain abt 3 car safety distance with long q in fornt. That mean I already consider continuously OVERTAKING lane 2 car so should i give way to the high speed car behind? Not to create another thread, a subaru was in front of me at lane 1, I wanted to overtake so drove close, he gave way. Guess what! He tailgate me after! Want to drive slow at first and then buay song when people want overtake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unfair 3rd Gear February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 I am not picking up a fight or anything but you see this rule of "as long as someone is faster than you on lane 1 you give way" is evolving into a mentality I think is not right. Yes agreed if the road is clear and 2nd lane also clear, someone behind you is faster, don't let you ego get better than you by not bugging. but if you travel say at 120km/h then a bugger comes up at 130km/h ok you give way. so now you travel faster say 130km/h then a crazy fella travel 140km/h where is this going to end? The point is driving faster does not give you a divine right to have all traffic in lane 1 to clear the road for you unless you drive an ambulance. So how many people agree with the above statement ? 1st lane is for overtaking, how do i overtake a slower vehicle on the first lane ?? Would you let an ambulance/police car that has not switched on its lights/siren pass if its tailgating you ? If so, why do you choose to block other people who are in a rush just so you can drive at your 'leisurely' pace ? I do not envy people who dare to speed or travel in bus lanes cause they are willing to take the risk of getting fined. I feel if you cannot match the speed of vehicles in a rush, you must give way if conditions allow and there is a clear rd in front of you. So, if i manage to pass you on the rd with your mentality, prepare to see brake lights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unfair 3rd Gear February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 Let say, high traffic at lane 2 travel at 70km/h while I was at lane 1 at 95km/h maintain abt 3 car safety distance with long q in fornt. That mean I already consider continuously OVERTAKING lane 2 car so should i give way to the high speed car behind? If by long Q you mean also jammed in front, then i feel its okie to just keep your place. But if the high speed car behind signals you (by high beam or a horn), it should not be difficult to give way rite ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterh2o 4th Gear February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 So how many people agree with the above statement ? 1st lane is for overtaking, how do i overtake a slower vehicle on the first lane ?? Would you let an ambulance/police car that has not switched on its lights/siren pass if its tailgating you ? If so, why do you choose to block other people who are in a rush just so you can drive at your 'leisurely' pace ? I do not envy people who dare to speed or travel in bus lanes cause they are willing to take the risk of getting fined. I feel if you cannot match the speed of vehicles in a rush, you must give way if conditions allow and there is a clear rd in front of you. So, if i manage to pass you on the rd with your mentality, prepare to see brake lights. See you totally mistaken my point here. I already agree that if all conditions allow and if the car behind is faster by all means don't let your ego get the better of you, give way. Anyway in my reply did I mention driving in leisurely pace in lane 1? My point is that no one can really know if the faster car behind is really in an emergency or not. It just that people will have this mentality that hey I am faster than you, you better give way! "So, if i manage to pass you on the rd with your mentality, prepare to see brake lights. " This sentence is totally uncalled for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterh2o 4th Gear February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 Oh and pertaining to this question Would you let an ambulance/police car that has not switched on its lights/siren pass if its tailgating you ? Yes I would if conditions allow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redplanet Clutched February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 I am not picking up a fight or anything but you see this rule of "as long as someone is faster than you on lane 1 you give way" is evolving into a mentality I think is not right. Yes agreed if the road is clear and 2nd lane also clear, someone behind you is faster, don't let you ego get better than you by not bugging. but if you travel say at 120km/h then a bugger comes up at 130km/h ok you give way. so now you travel faster say 130km/h then a crazy fella travel 140km/h where is this going to end? The point is driving faster does not give you a divine right to have all traffic in lane 1 to clear the road for you unless you drive an ambulance. Typical road hogger mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 It's not for me to judge others. I don't want to have an assumption that as long as I travelling fast I need not give way. Who am I to judge others aptitude and ability to control a fast moving vehicle. If I'm travelling at 130km/hr, another guy comes up behind faster, I'll give way. Because it's not for me to place my values onto others. I'm not TP, I'm not the person to set the speed limits. It's for speed checks, TP patrols to capture the data of speeding drivers, they know and we all know the punishment involved for being caught and as well as in terms of higher potential risk of accidents by speeding. Giving way should not be seen as condoning the person behind to speed. If due to lack proper control and aggressiveness of the speeding driver that inadvertently involved in an accident, my inaction could get me involved. Unless I'm really unable to give way. The driver behind should have the sensibilities and awareness to ascertain the traffic situation ahead and not tailgate me if I'm also stuck. It's can be argued that perhaps we should have a social responsibility to prevent others from speeding by blocking the lane and maintaining within the speed limit. Then again I'm not able to judge and gauge the objectives and intentions of the driver for knowingly flouting the speed limit. Perhaps it can be due to emergency, perhaps it's for the thrill, perhaps it's a habit, I can't tell. I think the example mentioned on the driver whom tailgate a faster moving vehicle after allowing the latter to overtake only reflects the maturity and safety conscientiousness level of him. Don't put ourselves at risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2or Neutral Newbie February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 I am not picking up a fight or anything but you see this rule of "as long as someone is faster than you on lane 1 you give way" is evolving into a mentality I think is not right. Yes agreed if the road is clear and 2nd lane also clear, someone behind you is faster, don't let you ego get better than you by not bugging. but if you travel say at 120km/h then a bugger comes up at 130km/h ok you give way. so now you travel faster say 130km/h then a crazy fella travel 140km/h where is this going to end? The point is driving faster does not give you a divine right to have all traffic in lane 1 to clear the road for you unless you drive an ambulance. 'if the road is clear and 2nd lane also clear', then WHY aren't you sticking to 2nd lane??? Don't like being overtaked? I think this is an ego problem... Can't see sign 'Keep left unless overtaking'? If 1st lane is 'left', then what's 'right'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Clutched February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 Typical road hogger mentality. Bro, really dont know what's wrong with all these drivers. They CHOOSE to hog lane 1 and then come on-line to insist on their right to hog. Looks like we have to suck thumb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Clutched February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 I am not picking up a fight or anything but you see this rule of "as long as someone is faster than you on lane 1 you give way" is evolving into a mentality I think is not right. it's because of people like you that our expressways are jammed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjgoh Neutral Newbie February 27, 2009 Share February 27, 2009 (edited) Well, in my humble opinion, Lane 1 to me is used strictly for Over Taking a string of slow moving traffic in center lane. Usually I will be in the middle lane maintaining the prescribed speed of 80/90kmh (give and take 10Kmh), averaging 100kmh. Those who rushes to get ahead in Lane 1, I always let them do so. Sometimes can be treated to free road action drama when a convoy of fast moving cars, comes to grief. So whenever I see a convoy of dummies in Lane 1 going above 90kmh front bumper to tail bumper, I will fall back and wait for events. Very entertaining at times. Oh and might I also add; it is interesting also to watch people merge into expressways - everyone wants to be first, but when it comes to merging they hesitate to the point of stopping. This too, can become entertaining. Edited February 27, 2009 by Cjgoh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourdefrance Neutral Newbie February 28, 2009 Share February 28, 2009 (edited) Nowadays I have seen so many road hoggers in fast lane on expressway. I reckon that it is due to the kiasu and scare to lose face mentality of typical Singaporeans. At the end of the day, we know that there are too many inconsiderate drivers around. Its all about upbringing and education. Why? For kiasuism- they take the fast lane for the seek convenience. If they are travelling in the middle lane, they have to struggle with cars cutting into your lane from left and right. For face value - they would feel losing of face if they give way to the car behind. Being inconsiderate and ignorant - Although the traffic rules or guidelines say that the right lane is an overtaking lane, I wonder if 50% of the road users are aware of this. They will learn after they come to MCF and got flamed for 10 pages if they insist they are right in hogging the fast lane. Encountered 3 separate hoggers from CTE to TPE last evening at 6.30pm. Damn irritating. Edited February 28, 2009 by Tourdefrance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjgoh Neutral Newbie February 28, 2009 Share February 28, 2009 (edited) Nowadays I have seen so many road hoggers in fast lane on expressway. I reckon that it is due to the kiasu and scare to lose face mentality of typical Singaporeans. At the end of the day, we know that there are too many inconsiderate drivers around. Its all about upbringing and education. Why? For kiasuism- they take the fast lane for the seek convenience. If they are travelling in the middle lane, they have to struggle with cars cutting into your lane from left and right. For face value - they would feel losing of face if they give way to the car behind. Being inconsiderate and ignorant - Although the traffic rules or guidelines say that the right lane is an overtaking lane, I wonder if 50% of the road users are aware of this. They will learn after they come to MCF and got flamed for 10 pages if they insist they are right in hogging the fast lane. Encountered 3 separate hoggers from CTE to TPE last evening at 6.30pm. Damn irritating. Well, how do you think these sort of people became the way they are; Kaisu? Who taught them to be like this? Think about it... I don't need to say who. Edited February 28, 2009 by Cjgoh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Clutched February 28, 2009 Share February 28, 2009 Thats traffic in sg. Wad to do? When u really are in a rush, no matter wad, u will end up stopping beside a bicycle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redplanet Clutched February 28, 2009 Share February 28, 2009 it's because of people like you that our expressways are jammed. +1. Exactly......I can assure you that if we get charged by the amount of time we stay on the roads travelling from pt A to pt B, then these people will really start to drive faster. Now they're just wasting their time dillydallying, and most irritatingly, OUR time too... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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