Blackchicken Neutral Newbie March 8, 2009 Share March 8, 2009 Riding directly behind a car on the center of the lane will not give u enough time to siam in case the car in front jam brake.. generally i feel riding in between lanes when traffic is really slow..if its cruising speed.. keeping in lane is safest.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackreplica Neutral Newbie March 8, 2009 Share March 8, 2009 (edited) You may have been riding for a decade but you sure sound like you need a lot of lessons on road riding. Ever reflect that it's your own (wrong) riding style and mentality that creates such dangerous situations? You may have been driving for longer but it still shows how lacking you are in basic reasoning ability, and how obvious it is that you either have ZERO or minimal on-road riding experience You dont even know what happened in any greater detail than what i described, and suddenly i'm at fault. LOL! So I'm automatically in the wrong because i have described how i nearly got killed by dumbass drivers all these years? Go ahead and try and find me a rider with 10 years experience who DOESNT have a multitude of near-death experiences thanks to reckless or ignorant car/lorry drivers. So i presume all of them have the wrong style or mentality. Or maybe i'm in the wrong because i use proper, prescribed riding techniques which are meant to safeguard my life (because we all know drivers like you couldnt care less whether we die or not). Well, i beg to differ. Its precisely BECAUSE of my experience and defensive riding techniques i am still accident free today and have been the past 10 years i've been riding. You think otherwise? Prove it....by downloading all my experiences to your brain for detailed analysis if you can....or take my word for it and keep your groundless speculation to yourself. In the meantime....keep your trap shut while the adults are talking. thank you and good day. Edited March 8, 2009 by Blackreplica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 You may have been driving for longer but it still shows how lacking you are in basic reasoning ability, and how obvious it is that you either have ZERO or minimal on-road riding experience You dont even know what happened in any greater detail than what i described, and suddenly i'm at fault. LOL! So I'm automatically in the wrong because i have described how i nearly got killed by dumbass drivers all these years? Go ahead and try and find me a rider with 10 years experience who DOESNT have a multitude of near-death experiences thanks to reckless or ignorant car/lorry drivers. So i presume all of them have the wrong style or mentality. Or maybe i'm in the wrong because i use proper, prescribed riding techniques which are meant to safeguard my life (because we all know drivers like you couldnt care less whether we die or not). Well, i beg to differ. Its precisely BECAUSE of my experience and defensive riding techniques i am still accident free today and have been the past 10 years i've been riding. You think otherwise? Prove it....by downloading all my experiences to your brain for detailed analysis if you can....or take my word for it and keep your groundless speculation to yourself. In the meantime....keep your trap shut while the adults are talking. thank you and good day. Haha dude, I take it you are only joking otherwise your response is too childish lah. Come on, why you so offended? Hot temper like yours on the road is the main killer. So much about defensive riding... Thank you for showing how "adult" you are. Dont worry , I will keep quiet as I rest my case Take care on the roads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas 5th Gear March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 I don't mind bikes riding in between lanes, as long as they know how to siam (carefully) when cars are coming. Some riders ride in center of lanes, but doing 90kmh on lane 1 at expressway... Most of time, I don't dare horn them, unless they are riding really dangerously. Once I was in Malacca, the car behind me horn this bike, which I think, cut into his lane, I looked in the rear view mirror because of the horn, just to see the biker turn his head back to look at him, and he banged into my car's backside. It was a left turn, and the car in front of me stopped, so I had to as well. I didn't stop just to look at who horned me. Luckily he's alright and my bumper is damn soft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgeter 2nd Gear March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 this is what happen when riding between lanes at 0.28. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tULMTKrkhiw towards the end of that video. it shows a bike that slam into the rear of that stationary mini bus... whether rider or driver, should stay alert,.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcslim Neutral Newbie March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 I am a biker and driver Riding close to a lane marking is defensive riding, it allows a rider an escape route if the idiot in front decides to jam brake. We have 2 tyres instead of 4 to stop and most of us do not have ABS. It is an established defensive street riding procedure. Bikes are typically much faster than cars and being close to the lane marking allows us to overtake more quickly as well, which makes things a lot safer. I'm not a rider so don't know much about the "street riding procedues" mentioned. But was a little bemused when reading the above. 1. Keeping a safety distance from the vehicle ahead in case it jams break applies to all vehicles, regardless whether 2-wheel or 4-wheel. 2. Speed limit also applies to all vehicles, regardless whether 2-wheel or 4-wheel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive_carcar Clutched March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 Riding between lanes also has it's drawbacks. When the roads are wet, the lane markings can be very slippery, any slight twitch can be disaster. When the cyclist somehow finds himself sandwiched between two vehicles, it's not just nerve wrecking, any mistake by the cyclist or the driver on the left or right, is going to be disaster. Further, it is highly dangerous to be in such a situation when negotiating a bend. I'm not sure what they teach at riding school, but the concept of riding between the lane really lacks common sense. If you want to talk about having an "escape route" in case somebody in front jams brakes, what makes you think straddling two lanes and swerving is safe? Wouldn't defensive riding and avoiding the situation by keep a safe distance, riding at a safe speed be better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfenstar 3rd Gear March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 You may have been driving for longer but it still shows how lacking you are in basic reasoning ability, and how obvious it is that you either have ZERO or minimal on-road riding experience You dont even know what happened in any greater detail than what i described, and suddenly i'm at fault. LOL! So I'm automatically in the wrong because i have described how i nearly got killed by dumbass drivers all these years? Go ahead and try and find me a rider with 10 years experience who DOESNT have a multitude of near-death experiences thanks to reckless or ignorant car/lorry drivers. So i presume all of them have the wrong style or mentality. Or maybe i'm in the wrong because i use proper, prescribed riding techniques which are meant to safeguard my life (because we all know drivers like you couldnt care less whether we die or not). Well, i beg to differ. Its precisely BECAUSE of my experience and defensive riding techniques i am still accident free today and have been the past 10 years i've been riding. You think otherwise? Prove it....by downloading all my experiences to your brain for detailed analysis if you can....or take my word for it and keep your groundless speculation to yourself. In the meantime....keep your trap shut while the adults are talking. thank you and good day. Errm note what bro throttle highlighted in bold before you anyhow shoot..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackreplica Neutral Newbie March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 (edited) Haha dude, I take it you are only joking otherwise your response is too childish lah. Come on, why you so offended? Hot temper like yours on the road is the main killer. So much about defensive riding... Thank you for showing how "adult" you are. Dont worry , I will keep quiet as I rest my case Take care on the roads. hahaha so i childish lah...ok lah, up to you lah! But you are pretty unintelligent ya since you like to talk so much about me when like i said before, you dont even know me, or my experiences. eh, 2 times already lah, you very slow learner ah! Perhaps in spite of that, you still want to give yourself some sort of moral upper hand with another worthless/brainless reply. If it allays your obvious insecurities, by all means do so. People like you arent worth more than a minute of two of my time. And your minute is up, so have a nice one. I'm pretty much done talking to you. Try not to kill any riders (hard for you i know, but try) See you around buddy! Edited March 9, 2009 by Blackreplica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppie24 1st Gear March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 towards the end of that video. it shows a bike that slam into the rear of that stationary mini bus... whether rider or driver, should stay alert,.. There was a car at the shoulder, i think the bikers was looking at that car, you can see his helmet turning to the left. Faint................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Neutral Newbie March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 i've always wanted to ask.... would car drivers really appreciate if all bikes rode in a single file and in lane everyday ? I believe it'll jam from Chin Swee tunnel to Yishun everyday on CTE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo6089 1st Gear March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 Most drivers do not like to see motorcylist riding in front of their cars, they would prefer motorcylist to just "go away" from their sight, right? Defensive riding is to judge the road condition and ride away from traffic as much as possible by overtaking fast and safe and give way to others who are in a rush. In other words, stay away from trouble as much as they could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcslim Neutral Newbie March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 Product Name: v30, autoboss v30, v30 autoboss auto scanner, v30 auto diagnostic tool Keywords: v30,autoboss,autoboss star, v30 autoboss scanner, autodiagnostic tool Wtf. Thot no advertising here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alechi 2nd Gear March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 bikes want to ride in between lanes fine ... just don't be a stupid idioot at the traffic lights and comfortably squeeze to the front and "park" in front of the first car, and stopping beyond the stop line. Same for turning lanes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball0088 5th Gear March 9, 2009 Share March 9, 2009 Hi car owners, Do you think riding in between lanes is a form of defensive riding for the riders? Why can't riders ride within lane? Some of us don't mind them to ride between lanes to get to the front at traffic lights. Should we all start to adopt a protocol to honk to alert rider who is riding infront of you but riding in between lanes or by the edge of the lane? Sometimes, I find some of them are opportuntists, machiam seating on fence to see which lane is to their advantages. By doing so, it kinds of inconvenient the drivers behind, i.e. we wonder whether we should just overtake or stay behind them? Your view please. Thank you very much. Regards, i don't like some bikers too (especially those J plates). They ride in and out, half into the lane and suddenly out and riding on the line. But the best we (drivers) can do is give them some space to travel. Just be peace loving and drive home safely. The road is for all to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgeter 2nd Gear March 10, 2009 Share March 10, 2009 There was a car at the shoulder, i think the bikers was looking at that car, you can see his helmet turning to the left. Faint................ dont understand why some people just want to kaypo.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urns Neutral Newbie March 10, 2009 Share March 10, 2009 bikes want to ride in between lanes fine ... just don't be a stupid idioot at the traffic lights and comfortably squeeze to the front and "park" in front of the first car, and stopping beyond the stop line. Same for turning lanes. I strongly agree!! And the worse thing is sometimes they take their own sweet time to move off.. I have this urge in me to...... (Whoops! Better not say..) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Neutral Newbie March 10, 2009 Share March 10, 2009 dont understand why some people just want to kaypo.. being kaypo is like the norm isnt it? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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