Braking without ABS?

[Ev0lutionz]

Is it safe to practice this in an empty carpark? I find this something that is never taught in the driving school. Maybe because most cars now have ABS?

[Tkseah]

make sure the roads are wet and free of cars n pple before u try..

[Ev0lutionz]

make sure the roads are wet and free of cars n pple before u try..

 

Yup. Thats what i plan to do. Make some point as a braking point and try to stop asap.

[Opel17]

Read from some magazines many years ago - rapid "on/off" stepping of the brake pedal would help to shorten the braking distance, especially during emergency. This "imitate" the ABS action abit, and term as cadence braking. This should only be used on car without ABS.

However, sometime during emergency, no time to use the cadence braking.

[Ev0lutionz]

Read from some magazines many years ago - rapid "on/off" stepping of the brake pedal would help to shorten the braking distance, especially during emergency. This "imitate" the ABS action abit, and term as cadence braking. This should only be used on car without ABS.

However, sometime during emergency, no time to use the cadence braking.

 

Yup, normally emergency, most people would just stamp on the pedal and hope for the best. I experienced it when some camry decided to swerve suddenly in my lane. Tried to steer also cannot. I guess having ABS also saves lifes with the ability to steer.

Edited August 27, 2009 by Ev0lutionz

[Kyojin]

with or without ABS, a foolish driver will also cause an accident even the every imaginable safety device!

[Boyboy]

if u are asking this question and ur car has ABS, u can't stop ur ABS from kicking in if u are braking too hard.

[Iziz]

Is it safe to practice this in an empty carpark? I find this something that is never taught in the driving school. Maybe because most cars now have ABS?

 

Wad is there to try? Skidding?

 

Empty open air carpark bah. But I dun think u can switch it off though, most cars dun have tat option.

[Yc86]

Now ABS is mandatory and its supposed to be idiot proof, don't have to practice.

 

mi car also has no ABS. I think one way is to always be aware that your car has no ABS, and remind yourself never to stomp on the brakes esp when raining? The aware part helps alot, just keep reminding yourself and soon it'll be a habit.

 

Prevention is better than cure.. so it helps to just drive more cautiously when conditions aren't ideal.

 

I guess cadence braking is not taught because it might actually lengthen stopping distance if not properly done, and sometimes depending on conditions, it might be better to lock the wheels if one is going for pure stopping distance without steering. Though naturally if it's possible avoid the obstacle, it would be better comparing to stopping in front of it.

 

can search for vids on how this technique is carried out and happy practicing. safely.

[Exowraith]

cadence braking is taught as intermittent braking but i guess when there's an emergency its hard to apply this technique.

Edited September 7, 2009 by Exowraith

[So_nice]

keeping a safe following distance is more important. with or without ABS

[Yattokame]

Anzua Buey Stop ?!?!?!

[Forexter]

For Cars fitted with ABS, just step on it hard, the electronics will do the rest of the work. You can still steer the car left or right.

 

If you are a racer with a car that can switch off your ABS, then you may want to experment with Cadence braking and find out the optimum braking.

 

Lastly, if your car do not have ABS, then you need to practice Candence braking when the wheels locks up, pretty obvious because of the tyre screech.

 

Please drive with a safety distance from the car in front.

[Rainmaker]

go to a empty carpark, pour water against your brakes and try jam brake when you 100% sure no one is around or will get hurt. your abs should activate. the car should jerk violently. i could be wrong so be safe if u want to try at your own risk

Edited September 20, 2009 by Rainmaker

[Zyrofillica]

pouring water against your brakes isnt going to activate abs. using well worn tyres on a wet preferably oily surface will definitely let u enjoy abs!

[Brumble]

Anzua Buey Stop ?!?!?!

 

lol.. good one..

[Kklee]

Is it safe to practice this in an empty carpark? I find this something that is never taught in the driving school. Maybe because most cars now have ABS?

 

First, the carpark must have enough "runway" to gather speed. Next, if brake hard and the wheel locks up, the car might veer to the left or right thus the carpark must be wide enough.

[1fast1]

Pro and race drivers don't use cadence braking - they use threshold braking. By far, a more difficult and intricate skill to pick up, but worth the trouble.

 

ABS (and its manual analogues, cadence and threshold braking) doesn't actually decrease braking distance in general. On a slippery straight, jamming a non-ABS braked car with the steering axis pointed perfectly straight will still get the car to stop shorter than ABS/Cadence/Threshold. What ABS/Cadence/Threshold allow is control of car steering during braking on a friction-limited surface. Jamming brakes on a slippery surface will lead to locked wheels and inability to steer.

 

There are only three ways you can practice non-ABS braking techniques with a street car. The first is to get a cheapo car like the Kia Rio, which doesn't have ABS factory-fitted. The second is to get yourself enrolled into one of those AAS-run defensive driving courses which allow you to practice on their specially-prepped cars on a skidpad. The last (not recommended) is to yank out the fuse controlling the ABS.

Edited November 8, 2009 by Turboflat4