Leo72 6th Gear September 20, 2009 Share September 20, 2009 Thinking of getting a Full HD LCD TV with Build in DVB-T Tunner to receive Digital 5/8 and HD-5 without any set-top box, better think again. A statement issue by selling a manufacturer selling DVB-T receive as below: For Singapore residence, some DVB-T reception with indoor antenna might be impaired by walls and high neighboring buildings/structures/trees. In such environments, an outdoor / roof-top DVB-T antenna is recommended. If you are using roof-top antenna with amplified signal, in theory, you should not encounter any reception problem and you should be able to receive all free-to-air DVB-t channels available in Singapore. For optimal reception of DVB-T channels with any indoor antenna (DVB-t compatible), you have to be in a location with minimum disturbance on the DVB-T signal. If you are using indoor antenna in a building, you may receive only TV Mobile (scan with channel number 37) as it has stronger signal transmission than other free-to-air DVB-t channels. Please note that Starhub SCV point in Singapore is not for DVB-t reception. XXXXXXX also reserves the right to make improvements and/or changes to the product, programmes and/or specifications described in the above information at any time without notice. I'm wondering how many people in Singapore have brought a Full HD LCD TV with DVB-T Tunner, DVB-T Receiver, DVB-T Tunner for PC / Laptop to realised that they can't received Digital 5, Digital 8, Digital CNA and HD-5 through the Starhub SCV Point and indoor antenna also can't help. Newer HDB Flats build by the HDB no longer offer roof-top antenna and instead offer Starhub SCV Point. Additional TV points required in the house now need to engage a license Starhub wiring contractor to do the wiring whereby in the past, it's not required for roof-top antenna point. I believe the condos' owners are also facing the same issue. What does this mean to the end users, they got to either get a Starhub Settop box / Receiver or use Singtel Mio TV to receive HD-5 if they want to receive HD-5. And for those who don't want to get a settop box, No HD-5 for you. No Digital 5 for you, No Digital 8 and no Digital CNA. I believe that alot of shops selling Full HD LCD TV, DVB-T receiver equipements will not tell the buyers all this. The authorities also didn't advertise in any media that we can't receive HD-5 from Starhub SCV Point without a receiver box from StarHub. It's entirely up to the buyers to find out before buying and if you already brought and cannot receive, it's your fault. It's a honest mistake. You can only suck your thumb and do one of the above point that I mentioned. Just wondering can the authority do anything since Digital-5, Digital-8, Digital CNA and HD-5 are all free to air channels and why we cannot watch it using the Starhub SCV Point? We didn't ask for Starhub SCV point at the first place and after paying tv license fees, we cannot watch those free channels? I just feel short-changed since we're already paying TV License, we're being control of what we can watch by Starhub and when we realised that we cannot receive HD-5, we can only suck thumb. Come on at least advertise in the Media to let us know before we do the purchase or send us letters. Otherwise, why collect TV License from us and let us suffer another lost from purchasing things that we'll find out it's a totally useless. Starhub, give me back my Free Digital-5, Free Digital-8, Free Digital CNA and Free HD-5. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachboys Clutched September 20, 2009 Share September 20, 2009 technically is it possible to hook up those digital tv receiver set for car, to the HD tv? but if its using RCA inputs, low quality too~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snookium 1st Gear September 20, 2009 Share September 20, 2009 Hijack this thread. May I know what is the main diff btween LCD TV and LED TV other than contrast and thickness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic September 20, 2009 Share September 20, 2009 Why are you whining? Starhub is a business, they pay money to lay all the special cables for digital TV. It is only fair that they offer it to their paying customers. If you want, you can set up a company to fight for a license to lay your own cables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo72 6th Gear September 20, 2009 Author Share September 20, 2009 Why are you whining? Starhub is a business, they pay money to lay all the special cables for digital TV. It is only fair that they offer it to their paying customers. If you want, you can set up a company to fight for a license to lay your own cables. I didn't ask for Starhub SCV Point at the first place, Starhub work with HDB to provide the Starhub SCV Point to every HDB Household and HDB decide not to have any more roof top antenna without consulting the public or highlight any difference between the roof top antenna and starhub SCV Point. If HDB provide me a way to view digital-5, digital 8, digital CNA and HD-5, then I'll not have any complains at all. Since HDB and starhub decide to remove the roof top antenna, then Starhub got to provide the DVB-T signal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo72 6th Gear September 20, 2009 Author Share September 20, 2009 Hijack this thread. May I know what is the main diff btween LCD TV and LED TV other than contrast and thickness? LCD TV used normal CCFL which consume higher current and generate more heat. LED LCD TV used LED to light up the LCD Panel, as LEDs generally consume lesser current and generate less heat, it's more eco-friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator September 21, 2009 Share September 21, 2009 i find the box come with mio tv actually give sharper picture, not only on the HD channels but the normal channels, so when i wanted to watch a good movie from channel 5 (not many though!) i switch to the mio tv box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic September 21, 2009 Share September 21, 2009 These entities will tell you nothing is free. The shift from free-to-air to cable is one sure way of recapturing lost revenues. HDB is not stupid to keep churning out $$ for maintenance and repair of these antennaes when spoilt, plus the labour and time spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo72 6th Gear September 21, 2009 Author Share September 21, 2009 These entities will tell you nothing is free. The shift from free-to-air to cable is one sure way of recapturing lost revenues. HDB is not stupid to keep churning out $$ for maintenance and repair of these antennaes when spoilt, plus the labour and time spent. I believe the maintenance will be done by Town Council and they already collection $$$ monthly from the HDB Owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo72 6th Gear September 21, 2009 Author Share September 21, 2009 i find the box come with mio tv actually give sharper picture, not only on the HD channels but the normal channels, so when i wanted to watch a good movie from channel 5 (not many though!) i switch to the mio tv box. Of course you get a sharper picture when you use mio tv as the channels are already in digital format. That's the reason why I want to watch Digital-5, Digital 8, Digital CNA and HD-5. I don't feel the need to pay for mio tv or starhub SCV box as the free to air channels are enough for me since I reach home around 8 pm, watch tv for around 2 hours and it's sleep and prepare for the next working day. Though it's just for 2 hours, I still want a sharper picture and Starhub / HDB deprive me of it. And what's the point of MDA to work with Mediacorp to roll out DVB-T (Digital Channel) when close to 80% of the users cannot recieve it without using Starhub or mio TV box and this 2 boxes doesn't recieve DVB-T signal at the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged September 21, 2009 Share September 21, 2009 Of course you get a sharper picture when you use mio tv as the channels are already in digital format. That's the reason why I want to watch Digital-5, Digital 8, Digital CNA and HD-5. I don't feel the need to pay for mio tv or starhub SCV box as the free to air channels are enough for me since I reach home around 8 pm, watch tv for around 2 hours and it's sleep and prepare for the next working day. Though it's just for 2 hours, I still want a sharper picture and Starhub / HDB deprive me of it. And what's the point of MDA to work with Mediacorp to roll out DVB-T (Digital Channel) when close to 80% of the users cannot recieve it without using Starhub or mio TV box and this 2 boxes doesn't recieve DVB-T signal at the first place. uum... so, can i conclude this "free" HD stuff is just a wayang show???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo72 6th Gear September 21, 2009 Author Share September 21, 2009 uum... so, can i conclude this "free" HD stuff is just a wayang show???? hmmm... you can still get the free HD-5 channel if you can meet either one of the below condition: 1. Subscribe Starhub SCV and you get to watch it 2. Subscribe MIO Tv and you get to watch it 3. Have your own roof top antenna 4. Use a indoor antenna but make sure you're not block by other building and make sure the antenna is facing bukit batok area. Otherwise just like me, suck thumb and forget about it till the authority or starhub do something about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superrobin Neutral Newbie September 25, 2009 Share September 25, 2009 Why are you whining? Starhub is a business, they pay money to lay all the special cables for digital TV. It is only fair that they offer it to their paying customers. If you want, you can set up a company to fight for a license to lay your own cables. FYI, TV in Singapore is not so "free". At least we pay TV license/tax each year. (BTW, why should we pay this license? it's said to sponsor free tv programs, but free tv programs/channels are supposed to carry commercials? dun know Mediacorp, MDA, IRAS or government should explain this to public? You are right, Starhub is a business, it's the government's duty to make decisions for public housing facilities/infrastructures... ) Meanwhile, the costs for DVB-T and HD broadcast quipments may eventually all come from tax payers, if I am not wrong. It's good investment, better quality over analog counterpart and consumes less RF spectrum/band. I think the posting got a piont here, the authority got fooled by SCV points transmitting free analog tv, and cut people off their HDB root-top possiblities, which were totally free. I tried some "still-on" HDB root-top connection at my friend's house. With a powerful enough PC and some DVB-T tuner and codec software, HD-5 can be watched without paying a cent. However ppl might need signal booster in some other regions of our little red dot. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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