Tigershark1976 Turbocharged January 23, 2010 Share January 23, 2010 (edited) but if the car is running fully Synthetic oil all along then not good idea to switch to mineral correct? and how can a cheap mineral oil clean as well as a flush... i understand a flush can do more harm than good to an old engine... but how about a 50k engine safe to flush often? Q1) but if the car is running fully Synthetic oil all along then not good idea to switch to mineral correct? Answer: Not too sure who told you that it is not good to switch from mineral frm Syn... You can even mix diff brand of syn oil with mineral if you want to. So long you keep to the lower OCI, eg when mixing mineral with fully syn, change the oil at 5K... So far, i have not came across any car/ oil manufacturer saying that their car engine must use Fully syn, or Mineral or both tyoe of oil cannot be mixed. Q2) how can a cheap mineral oil clean as well as a flush? Answer: all engine oil contains cleaning property that can clean up your engine. be it mineral or fully syn... Q3) i understand a flush can do more harm than good to an old engine... but how about a 50k engine safe to flush often? Sorry, i dun really undestand your question... 50K engine is rather new.... and flushing new engine? for wat purpose? Edited January 23, 2010 by Tigershark1976 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 Nay, its just a waste of money. You don't need to flush at all. thats wat i thought... but a cleaner engine feels good... u know what i mean?.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmnhnlm Clutched January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 thats wat i thought... but a cleaner engine feels good... u know what i mean?.... If you want a clean engine. Go for an overhaul. Not flushing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 (edited) hey thanks for your reply... wat i heard was... if the car has been using mineral all along.... a change to fully syn is better done with a flush... and vice versa... (tink i actually read this fact in an AA Highway mag) maybe this is so for older engines... 10yrs up... wat i also heard... flushing an old engine might do more harm to it than good... but anyways my engine is at 55k now... engine oil still comes out black after approx 6k.... so logically i will think that carbon no matter how little is still present in my engine... and i want to flush it out, what i want to know is if it will do more harm than good... thanks... Edited January 24, 2010 by Ken4555 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 If you want a clean engine. Go for an overhaul. Not flushing. but bro... flushing=pour it in.... run 10mins and drain... overhaul???? time and $ like 100times more ex? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmnhnlm Clutched January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 but bro... flushing=pour it in.... run 10mins and drain... overhaul???? time and $ like 100times more ex? There are many areas which an engine flush cannot clean..... Esp. your valves. and combustion chamber and piston top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 There are many areas which an engine flush cannot clean..... Esp. your valves. and combustion chamber and piston top hey bro... sung beng got this water based engine de-carbon thing... china made brand i think... i saw this lancer doing it... Sooooooooo much white smoke coming out of the exhaust while cleaning... wondr if it really works... and if it does i'm sure the ignition timing all run..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmnhnlm Clutched January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 hey bro... sung beng got this water based engine de-carbon thing... china made brand i think... i saw this lancer doing it... Sooooooooo much white smoke coming out of the exhaust while cleaning... wondr if it really works... and if it does i'm sure the ignition timing all run..... Hoho.... Guang Dao I think. I don't think I would want to try... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinablue Clutched January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 hey bro... sung beng got this water based engine de-carbon thing... china made brand i think... i saw this lancer doing it... Sooooooooo much white smoke coming out of the exhaust while cleaning... wondr if it really works... and if it does i'm sure the ignition timing all run..... white smoke from exhaust = engine piston up lorry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 Hoho.... Guang Dao I think. I don't think I would want to try... yayah... my car only 55k mileage the guy keep asking me to try... i keep saying no thanks.... haha..... the lancer i saw doing had 'drift racing' BBK on it... looked good... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmnhnlm Clutched January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 white smoke from exhaust = engine piston up lorry? No lar. Its not piston up lorry but the chemical burning. Actually us got a very popular product called sea foam also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmnhnlm Clutched January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 yayah... my car only 55k mileage the guy keep asking me to try... i keep saying no thanks.... haha..... the lancer i saw doing had 'drift racing' BBK on it... looked good... No point wasting money on such things lar regular oil change is more than enough. Keep the $$$ for better things like ignition systems etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 i think in our market, OWS is more establish than liqui moly.. but then, it's only recommended for cars with 100k mileage on them.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 bro the sea foam is it the one you can shoot inside the body frame chassis? by the way ur celica which year ah? is it the 4WD turbo? always loved it since my 'sega rally' days... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmnhnlm Clutched January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 bro the sea foam is it the one you can shoot inside the body frame chassis? by the way ur celica which year ah? is it the 4WD turbo? always loved it since my 'sega rally' days... Yup. Its the old 4WD turbo one. http://images.google.com.sg/imgres?imgurl=...t%3D18%26um%3D1 Thats how it looks like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear January 24, 2010 Share January 24, 2010 Yup. Its the old 4WD turbo one. http://images.google.com.sg/imgres?imgurl=...t%3D18%26um%3D1 Thats how it looks like. beautiful... i used to stay in AMK and there was this celica owner who drives the same ride as you for at least 8-10years.... lately he sold off his car and bought the newer model... think its 1.8 but not the least as powerful as the earlier models... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigershark1976 Turbocharged January 25, 2010 Share January 25, 2010 (edited) hey thanks for your reply... wat i heard was... if the car has been using mineral all along.... a change to fully syn is better done with a flush... and vice versa... (tink i actually read this fact in an AA Highway mag) maybe this is so for older engines... 10yrs up... wat i also heard... flushing an old engine might do more harm to it than good... but anyways my engine is at 55k now... engine oil still comes out black after approx 6k.... so logically i will think that carbon no matter how little is still present in my engine... and i want to flush it out, what i want to know is if it will do more harm than good... thanks... u r rite mate, flushing an old engine will do more harm than good if you are using those aftermarket engine flushing chemical. however, if you are kiasu + kiasi like me. Wan to flush but scared engine up the lorry, use cheap mineral oil to run for 1K or so and after your car reach millage of 100K, u can repeat a few rounds b4 changing to the fully syn oil you want, depends how kiasu r u but i think 1 round is more than sufficient and you can use the same method every 30K or 40K interval..... but dont over do it cos it will only hurt your pocket and the environment... Edited January 25, 2010 by Tigershark1976 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear January 25, 2010 Share January 25, 2010 (edited) i think i better understand about flushing now thanks... now i got a question hope its not stupid... now so many ppl flush their engines... cause so many shops have it... so many mechs say its good to clean ur engine... get rid of the carbon-says the flush manufacturers.... i have seen a piston that just got taken right out of a car... i saw that it was pretty black, unlike those shiny new ones you see in glass displays... belonged to a VTI.... i poured abit of petrol and rubbed... the black colour didnt move one bit... its like bonded to the pistons... so lets say the flushes really are able to get rid of the carbon... so i guess that if i pour some engine flush into the petrol tank... and drive it at high revs (not low revs, maybe @ NS highway)... shouldnt it then clean the upper cylinders as well? might give the plugs a good cleaning session.... does this make sense? pls dont say try then u know... cause i wanna see if someone has done it before and if i make sense... Edited January 25, 2010 by Ken4555 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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