All the best to parents of PSLE candidates

[sake]

16 minutes ago, Weez911 said:

Top Secondary Schools in Singapore 2020, based on their PSLE Cut-off points (COP) for 2019:
S/N Name of School Programmes Offered Type 2019 Cut-off
1 Hwa Chong Institution IP, SAP Boys 259
2 Raffles Girls’ School (Secondary) IP Girls 259
3 Methodist Girls’ School (Secondary) IB Girls 258
4 Nanyang Girls’ High School IP, SAP Girls 258
5 Raffles Institution IP Boys 258
6 Dunman High School IP, SAP Co-ed 256
7 National Junior College IP Co-ed 256
8 CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls’ School IP, SAP Girls 255
9 Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) IB Boys 254
10 Catholic High School IP, SAP Boys 254
11 Methodist Girls’ School (Secondary) O-levels Girls 254
12 Cedar Girls’ Secondary School IP Girls 253
13 CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls’ School O-levels, SAP Girls 253
14 River Valley High School IP, SAP Co-ed 252
15 Singapore Chinese Girls’ School IP Girls 252
16 Singapore Chinese Girls’ School O-levels Girls 252
17 Victoria School IP Boys 252
18 Catholic High School O-levels, SAP Boys 251
19 Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) O-levels Boys 250
20 Cedar Girls’ Secondary School O-levels Girls 250
21 Paya Lebar Methodist Girls’ School (Secondary) O-levels Girls 250
22 St. Joseph’s Institution IB Boys 250
23 Temasek Junior College IP Co-ed 250
24 Anderson Secondary School O-levels Co-ed 247
25 CHIJ Secondary (Toa Payoh) O-levels Girls 246

https://sg.style.yahoo.com/top-secon...172347922.html

@Tedlhw 自强不息 top.

note that you can add 1-3 points from HMT for SAP schools.

[Lala81]

On 10/6/2020 at 1:36 PM, Mason016 said:

Yeah, tiger mother, dragon father and kpo relatives, time to let the kid be a kid for awhile more until Jan 2021.

yo. RI/RGS is still 4 years single-ed then last 2 years co-ed in RI?
Now all cluster-F in bishan liao, i dunno how it works anymore lol.

Edited October 9, 2020 by Lala81

[sake]

31 minutes ago, Lala81 said:

yo. RI/RGS is still 4 years single-ed then last 2 years co-ed in RI?
Now all cluster-F in bishan liao, i dunno how it works anymore lol.

yes.

[Wind30]

we did not try to DSA to St Nicholas or any of the second tier girl school because she wanted to try to get into RGS. 

I think the top school is still RI/RGS and HCI/Nayang depending on whether you are english Ed or Chinese Ed. 

It is a big risk though as the cut off between RGS and St nics is not that far apart. A screw up in PSLE could mean you end up in like SCGS or worse. But accepting a DSA to St Nics means you have zero chance to try for RGS in PSLE.

Honestly, I don't really have any idea how high is 260 in PSLE nowadays... so now is just pray my girl did well enough to get into RGS. 

Edited October 9, 2020 by Wind30

[Alg]

28 minutes ago, Wind30 said:

we did not try to DSA to St Nicholas or any of the second tier girl school because she wanted to try to get into RGS. 

I think the top school is still RI/RGS and HCI/Nayang depending on whether you are english Ed or Chinese Ed. 

It is a big risk though as the cut off between RGS and St nics is not that far apart. A screw up in PSLE could mean you end up in like SCGS or worse. But accepting a DSA to St Nics means you have zero chance to try for RGS in PSLE.

Honestly, I don't really have any idea how high is 260 in PSLE nowadays... so now is just pray my girl did well enough to get into RGS. 

Yes, my son's classmate in Primary 6 last year actually DSA into NJC thinking that he would not make it into HCI. But his PSLE results more than enough to enter HCI, too late to u-turn. 

260 nowadays is considered bonderline if the kid wants to enter RI/RGS/HCI/NYG. For HCI/NYG, if both kids scored 260, they will take the one with higher chinese.

[sake]

for those interested in EESIS in comparison to cut off points.

 

http://wwwdontmesswith6a.blogspot.com/2011/09/p6-prelim-results-and-expected-psle.html

 

EESIS COP cannot use HMT points.

Edited October 9, 2020 by sake

[Mason016]

1 hour ago, Lala81 said:

yo. RI/RGS is still 4 years single-ed then last 2 years co-ed in RI?
Now all cluster-F in bishan liao, i dunno how it works anymore lol.

Yup. Lol! Not cluster f until like st pats and kc lah. I think the girls are at 2 braddell rise while the boys are at 1 ri lane.

Edited October 9, 2020 by Mason016

[Wind30]

51 minutes ago, sake said:

for those interested in EESIS in comparison to cut off points.

 

http://wwwdontmesswith6a.blogspot.com/2011/09/p6-prelim-results-and-expected-psle.html

 

EESIS COP cannot use HMT points.

 

EESIS... first time reading about it. Not bad prize for high PSLE scores, $2400.

RGS school fees is $300 a month???? wow... crazy. I thought it is $11.50/month or something

PR is $710 for PRs... $1530 for Foreigners....

Honestly, I am not sure how those schools are spending the money but they should keep the costs down... at the end of the day, it is the students that count. 

I was part of the move to Bishan campus for RI and we joke during my time was the carpet grass must have cost a lot... Why do we need carpet grass???

 

Edited October 9, 2020 by Wind30

[Lala81]

16 minutes ago, Wind30 said:

 

EESIS... first time reading about it. Not bad prize for high PSLE scores, $2400.

RGS school fees is $300 a month???? wow... crazy. I thought it is $11.50/month or something

PR is $710 for PRs... $1530 for Foreigners....

Honestly, I am not sure how those schools are spending the money but they should keep the costs down... at the end of the day, it is the students that count. 

I was part of the move to Bishan campus for RI and we joke during my time was the carpet grass must have cost a lot... Why do we need carpet grass???

 

RI school fees was already 200 dollars/month in early 1990s. Yes reduced down if u have edusave bursary. 

My younger cousin went to HC cos he may not be eligible for the bursary if he applied for RI.

Edited October 9, 2020 by Lala81

[sake]

42 minutes ago, Wind30 said:

 

EESIS... first time reading about it. Not bad prize for high PSLE scores, $2400.

RGS school fees is $300 a month???? wow... crazy. I thought it is $11.50/month or something

PR is $710 for PRs... $1530 for Foreigners....

Honestly, I am not sure how those schools are spending the money but they should keep the costs down... at the end of the day, it is the students that count. 

I was part of the move to Bishan campus for RI and we joke during my time was the carpet grass must have cost a lot... Why do we need carpet grass???

 

$2400 × 6 years= $14400

Quite some savings.

[Throttle2]

Every school is a good school.  

Every property (in SG) is a good property.

[firefly20]

On 10/9/2020 at 12:07 PM, Weez911 said:

Top Secondary Schools in Singapore 2020, based on their PSLE Cut-off points (COP) for 2019:
S/N Name of School Programmes Offered Type 2019 Cut-off
1 Hwa Chong Institution IP, SAP Boys 259
2 Raffles Girls’ School (Secondary) IP Girls 259
3 Methodist Girls’ School (Secondary) IB Girls 258
4 Nanyang Girls’ High School IP, SAP Girls 258
5 Raffles Institution IP Boys 258
6 Dunman High School IP, SAP Co-ed 256
7 National Junior College IP Co-ed 256
8 CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls’ School IP, SAP Girls 255
9 Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) IB Boys 254
10 Catholic High School IP, SAP Boys 254
11 Methodist Girls’ School (Secondary) O-levels Girls 254
12 Cedar Girls’ Secondary School IP Girls 253
13 CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls’ School O-levels, SAP Girls 253
14 River Valley High School IP, SAP Co-ed 252
15 Singapore Chinese Girls’ School IP Girls 252
16 Singapore Chinese Girls’ School O-levels Girls 252
17 Victoria School IP Boys 252
18 Catholic High School O-levels, SAP Boys 251
19 Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) O-levels Boys 250
20 Cedar Girls’ Secondary School O-levels Girls 250
21 Paya Lebar Methodist Girls’ School (Secondary) O-levels Girls 250
22 St. Joseph’s Institution IB Boys 250
23 Temasek Junior College IP Co-ed 250
24 Anderson Secondary School O-levels Co-ed 247
25 CHIJ Secondary (Toa Payoh) O-levels Girls 246

https://sg.style.yahoo.com/top-secon...172347922.html

@Tedlhw 自强不息 top.

I think your list was for the previous year. The latest one is below.

https://www.one2tuition.com/post/secondary-school-cut-off-point-cop-2020

Non-affiliated Schools

Nanyang Girls' High School: (E): 262 (+4)

Raffles Girls' School (Secondary) (E): 261 (+2)

Raffles Institution (E): 259 (+1)

CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls' School (IP): 257 (+2)

Hwa Chong Institution: 257 (-2)

Methodist Girls' School (Secondary) (IP): 257 (-1)

Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) (IP): 256 (+2)

Dunman High School: 255 (-1)

National Junior College: 254 (-2)

Cedar Girls' Secondary School (IP): 253 (0)

CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls' School (O Level): 253 (0)

Methodist Girls' School (Secondary) (O Level): 253 (-1)

River Valley High School (E): 253 (+1)

Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) (O Level): 252 (+2)

Catholic High School (IP): 252 (-2)

Singapore Chinese Girls' School (IP): 252 (0)

Singapore Chinese Girls' School (O Level): 252 (0)

Victoria School (IP): 252 (0)

St. Joseph's Institution (IP): 251 (+1)

 

[firefly20]

On 10/9/2020 at 1:45 PM, Wind30 said:

we did not try to DSA to St Nicholas or any of the second tier girl school because she wanted to try to get into RGS. 

I think the top school is still RI/RGS and HCI/Nayang depending on whether you are english Ed or Chinese Ed. 

It is a big risk though as the cut off between RGS and St nics is not that far apart. A screw up in PSLE could mean you end up in like SCGS or worse. But accepting a DSA to St Nics means you have zero chance to try for RGS in PSLE.

Honestly, I don't really have any idea how high is 260 in PSLE nowadays... so now is just pray my girl did well enough to get into RGS. 

A screw up in PSLE still can get into SCGS 😱, I think your gal will have no problem getting that >= 260.

Well, keep us posted on the good news. 

[firefly20]

On 10/9/2020 at 12:58 PM, Lala81 said:

yo. RI/RGS is still 4 years single-ed then last 2 years co-ed in RI?
Now all cluster-F in bishan liao, i dunno how it works anymore lol.

There's this 'love' bridge between HCI & NYGH and now there's also a 'love' bridge between RI & RGS.

Mabbe someone in MOE really believes in eugenics. Lol

[firefly20]

On 10/9/2020 at 2:42 PM, sake said:

for those interested in EESIS in comparison to cut off points.

 

http://wwwdontmesswith6a.blogspot.com/2011/09/p6-prelim-results-and-expected-psle.html

 

EESIS COP cannot use HMT points.

Oh I didn't know ESIS cannot use HMT pts.

[firefly20]

On 10/9/2020 at 4:11 PM, sake said:

$2400 × 6 years= $14400

Quite some savings.

Nowadays besides ESIS, there're also bursaries for independent school students. E.g. the Independent School Bursary and UPLIFT scholarships.

https://beta.moe.gov.sg/uploads/MOE-ISB-Application-Form.pdf

https://beta.moe.gov.sg/fees-assistance-awards-scholarships/awards-scholarships/uplift-scholarships/

In addition, I heard that some schools like RI have their own internal scholarships, separate from MOE ones that are sponsored by their alumni. I believe HCI also have similiar programs.

So there are many outlets to aid the able but financially-challenged students to enrol in independent schools.

Edited October 10, 2020 by firefly20

[firefly20]

On 10/9/2020 at 1:45 PM, Wind30 said:

we did not try to DSA to St Nicholas or any of the second tier girl school because she wanted to try to get into RGS. 

I think the top school is still RI/RGS and HCI/Nayang depending on whether you are english Ed or Chinese Ed. 

It is a big risk though as the cut off between RGS and St nics is not that far apart. A screw up in PSLE could mean you end up in like SCGS or worse. But accepting a DSA to St Nics means you have zero chance to try for RGS in PSLE.

Honestly, I don't really have any idea how high is 260 in PSLE nowadays... so now is just pray my girl did well enough to get into RGS. 

Anyway this yr is still relatively simple to make the 6 options. Come next yr, not only will the AL scheme be totally new, even the order of your 6 options matters.

That one is really stressful. Why is MOE encouraging speculation of Sec Sch COP? 😂

[firefly20]

On 10/9/2020 at 2:16 PM, Alg said:

Yes, my son's classmate in Primary 6 last year actually DSA into NJC thinking that he would not make it into HCI. But his PSLE results more than enough to enter HCI, too late to u-turn. 

260 nowadays is considered bonderline if the kid wants to enter RI/RGS/HCI/NYG. For HCI/NYG, if both kids scored 260, they will take the one with higher chinese.

I guess 260 will belong to the lower end of the spectrum in these 4 schools. I think the median will be somewhere around 265.

I recall visiting this open house a few years back. My guide was very cute - he said he scored 265 and was put in the sports class coz 265 was not considered a high score in that sch. I had to stifled a laugh bcoz he really believed that 265 was not very good.

Anyway I've a  friend whose kid scored less than 250 but managed to DSA into one of the 4 schools you mentioned. Once in upper sec, his results raised to the top tier coz he was talented in Math and the Sciences and these 2 groups contributed grades for 5 subjects in upper Sec, unlike in PSLE. So it doesn't mean that if one is off the COP by a lot, then no hope. One friend's kid ended up representing sch for competition despite his relatively modest T-score.

Edited October 10, 2020 by firefly20