China 歼-20 first flight new photos

[Jamesc]

And i know of a local company actually use online translator to convert their english language user manual to other languages just to save cost.

I hope it wasn't a safety manual.

 

Cable wrong hole put in sparks explosion life of loss result will.

 

[Wishcumstrue]

hopefully it's fine.

BTW, I used to work in ST Aerospace

 

Then how come you aren't aware about the upgrade program?

[Happily1986]

Buying new military hardware is very different from building one.

 

The later is a hard way and risky path, but the returns in technological and strategic gain are unsubstantial.

 

As a major arms exporter, the US frowns on those allies who attempt to develop & deploy their indigenous systems like warplanes or missiles. Classic cases like Israel's Lavi light-fighter and Japan's FS-X program.

 

All above a full of dispute with US as it tries to restrict technology transfer.

 

Today, we see many US allies depending on US soruces and even sign-on for yet-to-provent JSF program.

 

So yes, politics is always the influcing factor in major arms purchases, Singapore is no exception.

 

Killed - Israel's Lavi

 

 

Limited deployment - Japan's F2

 

Locally, the decision to go COTS is simply cost, cost and cost.They are strictly abiding by something called spiral development.

[Tigershark1976]

But our ST Aerospace upgrade & modified the engine of A4 Skyhawk to Super Skyhawk ...

 

 

bro, i buy a casing for my samsung galazy SII also consider upgrade.... then I stick a screen protector also consider modification work for improvement... ad all these things are made by farmer in China...

 

 

 

just joking, no hard feelings to ST Aerospace staffs...

[Tigershark1976]

Our neighbours up north bought russian.

 

All the manuals are in russian so

 

I don't know how the planes get serviced.

 

 

 

dun need service.... u never read news meh?? their engine bay is empty.... just need to wash once a month to maintain the look can alrd...

Edited April 5, 2012 by Tigershark1976

[Jamesc]

dun need service.... u never read news meh?? their engine bay is empty.... just need to wash once a month to maintain the look can alrd...

Oh I remember already, some people broke into the base and stole their equipment.

 

It was the jet engines that was stolen?

 

Cannot even defend their own base and they have men with guns!

 

They want to defend the nation?

 

[Wishcumstrue]

Locally, the decision to go COTS is simply cost, cost and cost.They are strictly abiding by something called spiral development.

 

COTS?

[Happily1986]

COTS?

 

commercial off the shelf.

COTS

[Happily1986]

Wonder if J-20 can be classified as one with the trait of Supermaneuverability. This trait is now increasingly popping up as a hallmark of 4G/5G fighters. a controlled loss of control beyond normal abilities

[Wishcumstrue]

Wonder if J-20 can be classified as one with the trait of Supermaneuverability. This trait is now increasingly popping up as a hallmark of 4G/5G fighters. a controlled loss of control beyond normal abilities

 

Unless China officially states what this plane is intended for, I think it is too early to tell if J-20 will evolve into a production model or simply a technology demonstrator

 

As for about it flight characteristics, the closest I can find is a scaled RC model made by http://rcpowers.com/

 

Yes, I hear giggles in the background... ..

 

It is a TOY! But hey, almost all plane-markers started out with scaled models before moving to full-scale test...

 

Here is what they found flying this 1/20 scale. Take it with some pinch of salt.

 

 

 

[Wishcumstrue]

2nd J-20 prototype "2002" now testing with AESA and avionice system.

Comparing with the first model "2001"

 

Note the nose section difference.

 

Video from netizen on "2002" 2012 from 2:00 min. I am trying to get one with internal bomb bay door opened clip.

J-20 02号第15次试飞 开启弹仓过程首拍

Edited March 15, 2013 by Wishcumstrue

[Tigershark1976]

Oh I remember already, some people broke into the base and stole their equipment.

 

It was the jet engines that was stolen?

 

Cannot even defend their own base and they have men with guns!

 

They want to defend the nation?

 

 

 

oh... talk about guns.... it was stolen as well, thats y the guard only have stick as weapon... LOL....

[Wishcumstrue]

Chanced upon this clip from a Taiwanese news made few months before J-20 first flight

At that time, ROC military intel insist the J-20 photos were all fakes.

 

 

照片有問題！

 

Edited March 26, 2013 by Wishcumstrue

[Wishcumstrue]

P2002 now testing with new side bomb bay system.

 

The unique design is consider better than F22 since it allows missile firing without leaving the door open.

 

This avoid 2 problems of reduced performance while keeping the RCS low when missile is pre for launch.

 

 

Animated example of forward side-bomb bay door opening

Edited March 29, 2013 by Wishcumstrue

[Wishcumstrue]

4 years on, Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group has move to testing its latest prototype iteration "2015".

This one has cropped canards and vertical stabilisers, a modified air intake, modified wing leading-edge extensions, and a new electro-optical targeting system (EOTS) under the nose.

It also no longer spot the usual nose-mounted pitot tubes, has longer and sharper-shaped rear-fuselage horizontal strakes, and like the "2011" version, has lighter ghost grey paint scheme..

This version which was first observed flying on Dec 2014, seems to indicate the final layout and configuration with mass production expected to peak from 2017/18.

 

 

 

[Vega]

of all the 5th gen stealth fighters such as F22, F35, T-50, J31, J20, I find this J20 looks very weird.

don't look that stealthy at all and none of existing stealth fighters using canards. . wonder how is its RCS?

 

[Wishcumstrue]

of all the 5th gen stealth fighters such as F22, F35, T-50, J31, J20, I find this J20 looks very weird.

don't look that stealthy at all and none of existing stealth fighters using canards. . wonder how is its RCS?

 

 

 

Yes, so far J-20 is the only known stealth plane with canard-delta design.

 

I alluded to this previously.

http://www.mycarforum.com/topic/2659057-china-%e6%ad%bc-20-first-flight-new-photos%e3%80%80/?p=3557164

 

On hindsight, it should not come as a surprise since the Chengdu company is already experienced with manufacturing another smaller fighter with similar configuration, the J-10, though both jets are clearly designed for different purposes.

 

 

[Vega]

I think China's biggest problem is still with its power delivery.

That is why they are buying Su-35 to study the Russian engine.

 

 

 

Yes, so far J-20 is the only known stealth plane with canard-delta design.

 

I alluded to this previously.

http://www.mycarforum.com/topic/2659057-china-%e6%ad%bc-20-first-flight-new-photos%e3%80%80/?p=3557164

 

On hindsight, it should not come as a surprise since the Chengdu company is already experienced with manufacturing another smaller fighter with similar configuration, the J-10, though both jets are clearly designed for different purposes.