Manual cars are fun to drive

[Forexter]

i am a mat oso u know!

[Kangadrool]

but got MAT lei!

 

It's MATI, not MAT.

[Evillusion]

It's MATI, not MAT.

u cursing the gearbox right?

[Kangadrool]

u cursing the gearbox right?

 

Automatic gearbox MATI faster mah!

[Evillusion]

Automatic gearbox MATI faster mah!

lucky mine's a manual!

[RadX]

lucky mine's a manual!

 

steady lah....and MANUAL rawks!!!

[Evillusion]

steady lah....and MANUAL rawks!!!

ya and i can red line the bugger until the gasket blow ! can drop gear during cornering and blast off after that!

Edited May 3, 2011 by Eviilusion

[RadX]

ya and i can red line the bugger until the gasket blow! can drop gear during cornering and blast off after that!

 

heel-toe is wayyyyyyyyyyyy fun

[Jl1500k]

jus saying....

 

but auto has its benefits

 

 

Manual cars are fun to drive? I will say YES!

 

For those who have watch Initial D and Fast and Furious before should know the answer.

 

 

[Jl1500k]

Ten years ago I still swear by manual transmission, but not anymore.

 

I am enjoying my CVT gear box smoothness and quietness a lot even in traffic jams

 

 

Auto - For Convenience

 

Manual - Better Control

 

 

 

[Lucaswh]

Actually i think Manual might be easier in jams lei. At least I have the freedom to let the car roll with gear disengaged and sometimes can use 2nd gear to engine brake by letting the car roll when traffic comes to a stop again. Can divide the load between right and left instead of depending on the right if am driving auto.

[Rosschang]

Actually i think Manual might be easier in jams lei. At least I have the freedom to let the car roll with gear disengaged and sometimes can use 2nd gear to engine brake by letting the car roll when traffic comes to a stop again. Can divide the load between right and left instead of depending on the right if am driving auto.

Trust me... manual cars in Jam?... u gotta be kidding me... *left foot kramp...

[Bicolor]

Trust me... manual cars in Jam?... u gotta be kidding me... *left foot kramp...

 

I find manual cars less tiring to control than auto cars in a jam.

And I spend a lot of time in jams, both in Singapore whenever back on holiday or worse still, in uphill jams in Hong Kong.

When you are experienced with manual, you don't need to hold the clutch or half clutch for long, so with proper clutch control and smart use of the clutch it isn't any more tiring. At least I can balance out the effort between the clutch, brake pedal and handbrake.

Disclaimer: This is just my personal feeling, maybe I'm more crazily into driving manual than most. So no hard feelings if you feel otherwise.

Edited May 3, 2011 by Bicolor

[Mllcg]

I find manual cars less tiring to control than auto cars in a jam.

And I spend a lot of time in jams, both in Singapore whenever back on holiday or worse still, in uphill jams in Hong Kong.

When you are experienced with manual, you don't need to hold the clutch or half clutch for long, so with proper clutch control and smart use of the clutch it isn't any more tiring. At least I can balance out the effort between the clutch, brake pedal and handbrake.

Disclaimer: This is just my personal feeling, maybe I'm more crazily into driving manual than most. So no hard feelings if you feel otherwise.

 

sometimes, its not the gear. if the clutch is good, you will have an easier time as well. but i find auto in jams bad. need to keep switching between N and D

[Nzy]

I also drove auto for 1 year and manual for 1 year since I passed. Always stuck in jam everyday on the way to camp or school. Also feel that manual less tiring in jams. Most of my friends who said manual is tiring in jams are those that only drive manual during TP then after that drive auto. So they have to half clutch and hold the clutch all the way.

Edited May 3, 2011 by Nzy

[Bicolor]

sometimes, its not the gear. if the clutch is good, you will have an easier time as well. but i find auto in jams bad. need to keep switching between N and D

 

My own car has the easiest clutch ever to handle, and the low end torque from my diesel engine makes it easier to control, so in HK's uphill jams it is still a breeze to drive.

 

Of course with a sports clutch you will have a slightly harder time. But I've driven WRX with sports clutch in jams and still find it manageable.

 

In an auto car, switching between N and D is still OK. The worst was when I borrowed my uncle's car, and he forbade me to switch between D and N. In jams and traffic lights, had to step on the brake all the time. I felt more tired then than when I got caught in a massive jam with the WRX!

[Mllcg]

My own car has the easiest clutch ever to handle, and the low end torque from my diesel engine makes it easier to control, so in HK's uphill jams it is still a breeze to drive.

 

Of course with a sports clutch you will have a slightly harder time. But I've driven WRX with sports clutch in jams and still find it manageable.

 

In an auto car, switching between N and D is still OK. The worst was when I borrowed my uncle's car, and he forbade me to switch between D and N. In jams and traffic lights, had to step on the brake all the time. I felt more tired then than when I got caught in a massive jam with the WRX!

 

btw, hows the jams in HK compared to SG?

 

and whats the costs of owning a car there?

 

lifetime ownership?

parking rates?

toll charges?

petroL?

 

cheaper or more ex?

Edited May 3, 2011 by Mllcg

[Bicolor]

btw, hows the jams in HK compared to SG?

 

and whats the costs of owning a car there?

 

lifetime ownership?

parking rates?

toll charges?

petroL?

 

cheaper or more ex?

 

Jams on HK Island and the busy parts of Kowloon are an everyday affair. On HK Island, it's worse because the terrain is full of steep uphill slopes. But I find it rather stress-free as people are generally more courteous and less aggressive, and will hold back a little when they know you intend to come in. So because of this the traffic moves quite smoothly, one car at a time, and even with a jam which looks horrible, the traffic moves slowly but steadily. In the northern regions of Kowloon and the New Territories the traffic is generally light and free-flowing and a joy to drive on, except that the speed limits on some of the mountain roads are a little too low to enjoy fully (but then, they are public roads after all).

 

As to the costs, second-hand cars in HK are dirt cheap, especially if you prefer slightly older cars. You can get a basic car (between 1996 to 1998) for less than SG$2000, while a GC WRX or R33 Skyline GTS can be obtained for just a little more than $3000. And of course, no COE, no restriction to how long you can keep it as long as it passes the annual inspection. The road tax would be comparable to Singapore's, and the insurance as well if the car is newer or a performance type, although third party insurance for an older bread-and-butter car can get as low as SG$100+. But the downside is the parking and petrol costs. RON 98 petrol costs SG$2.7/l now with the current exchange rate. In 2008 it actually got as high as $4/l! And RON98 is the lowest grade there, they don't sell 95. Even diesel costs $2.1/l, the equivalent of petrol in Singapore. Tunnel tolls are costly, about $5 on average to cross the harbour. Parking is crazy, my season parking costs $350 a month and that's only because I live out in the countryside, it may be double or triple that in town. For hourly parking, most indoor carparks start from the equivalent of SG$2.50 in the countryside and up to $8 per hour in town. Metered lots by the street are cheap but difficult to get a lot. So things even out, and it is very costly to own a car in HK.

 

But actually, there is no necessity to own a car in HK at all due to the highly efficient public transport. If not for the fact that I live in the countryside and that my work requires me to travel all over, I wouldn't consider driving at all. Same for Singapore actually, but still I tend to feel more handicapped without a car back in Singapore than in HK