Cyclist Problem

[Taipan49]

after reading so many posts, i still can't get my answer to the question i am thinking.

 

 

Car A bang stationary Car B backside (obviously is Car A never keep safety distance)and cause a dent in the bumper, Car B can claim Car A insurance.

 

If Bicycle A bang stationary Car B backside and cause a dent in the bumper, Car B claim insurance from who? (this is provided that Bicyle A didn't get rolled over by Truck C and go inside big bag). Claim own self insurance?

 

i think LTA should come out and clarify this. if not, next time if you will not happy with a person, just ride a bicycle and bang into that person car and cause a big dent.

 

Make a police report and get the cyclist's details. Cyclist is responsible for obeying the rules of the road, so if they crash into you then they are responsible. Treat it like a normal accident and claim through your insurance. Your insurance company then chases the cyclist.

 

Also badger your insurance company to offer insurance to cyclists for such cases to make it easier for them and yourself if you are still concerned about the process.

 

But the chances of a cyclist making a big dent in your car is going to be very small, maybe a small dent or scratch. Compare the impact of a bike that weighs less than 100kg (bike plus rider) vs a car which are all well over 1 tonne plus have occupants and other luggage/gear.

 

 

[Hotshot85]

I think the point to note is not so much as who pays $X for road tax, but rather, is it safe at all as a cyclist to be cycling on the roads during busy hours and/or not obeying the rules.

 

I always drive along Changi coast road on an almost daily basis, and am appalled by those tour de france wannabes that hog a whole lane as a group rather than cycling single file for everyone's safety. Even more puzzling is the fact that solo cyclist of other makes choose to ride on the road when the cycling lane is devoid of human traffic at night.

 

Now, I am pretty sure any sane person would keep to the cycling lanes as much as possible, however those that refuse to do so probably think they're iron man hidden under a suit of indestructible armor?

 

TL;DR - Please exercise better judgement on when/where you cycle, as I do cycle too.

[Toothiewabbit]

I think the point to note is not so much as who pays $X for road tax, but rather, is it safe at all as a cyclist to be cycling on the roads during busy hours and/or not obeying the rules.

 

I always drive along Changi coast road on an almost daily basis, and am appalled by those tour de france wannabes that hog a whole lane as a group rather than cycling single file for everyone's safety. Even more puzzling is the fact that solo cyclist of other makes choose to ride on the road when the cycling lane is devoid of human traffic at night.

 

Now, I am pretty sure any sane person would keep to the cycling lanes as much as possible, however those that refuse to do so probably think they're iron man hidden under a suit of indestructible armor?

 

TL;DR - Please exercise better judgement on when/where you cycle, as I do cycle too.

I cycle too and so, for everyone's sake, because there are no lanes whatsoever for cyclist in sunny Singapore, please get real and cycle in single file.

 

 

[Picia]

after reading so many posts, i still can't get my answer to the question i am thinking.

 

 

Car A bang stationary Car B backside (obviously is Car A never keep safety distance)and cause a dent in the bumper, Car B can claim Car A insurance.

 

If Bicycle A bang stationary Car B backside and cause a dent in the bumper, Car B claim insurance from who? (this is provided that Bicyle A didn't get rolled over by Truck C and go inside big bag). Claim own self insurance?

 

i think LTA should come out and clarify this. if not, next time if you will not happy with a person, just ride a bicycle and bang into that person car and cause a big dent.

 

Many car drivers don't really understand the risks cyclists are exposed to. No sane cyclist would purposely bang into a car. Not saying all cyclists are angels or that it may not be their fault or that they shouldn't pay, but if this happens to a cyclist they would be more concerned about possible injuries to themselves than damage to the car and I dare say most empathatic drivers would view it likewise. To be more concerned about minor damage to one's car than injuries to the cyclist appears callous to me, although different people have different priorities. To insist on the cyclist paying for a small scratch / dent cost if they are severely injured seems like "rubbing salt into the wound". This different in viewpoints between vulnerable cyclists and comfortable drivers also explains why many cyclists would be angrier than drivers when cars cut them off, etc - they simply have a lot more at stake.

[Gnahp]

My condolences.

 

Cyclist killed in collision with lorry

[Fd60]

as much as i would like to say cyclist are vulnerable . but most cyclist are freaking blind . reason : they dont need a bloody license to travel on the road , thus do not noe anything to look out for especially the god damn blind spot .

[Celicar]

Many car drivers don't really understand the risks cyclists are exposed to.

That's true.

 

Plus I also don't understand why cyclists want to expose themselves to such risk.

 

Some roads are known to be busy and hectic, but cyclists die die must cycle there.

 

[Angchug]

Bro is very normal lah you try driving along Kranji road on weekend. Big group of angmo occupying the whole road and won't way. What can we do

Yes especially over the weekend along Kranji road. They expect us to follow behind them at 20km/hr.

 

[Ldlian987]

those cyclists who demand their space on the road because it is their fugging hobby are just plain selfish and inconsiderate. just because of their hobby, other motorists have to accommodate them? i suggest that they reflect upon themselves on the way they behave on the roads before kpkbing about other motorists. i have seen them being a menace on the roads. if they are on a suicide mission, pls do not inconvenience other motorists and get others invovled thank u.

in summary i conclude that the more time they spent cycling on the roads, the lesser their intellect level.

[Jeff23]

Actually. Most of the un safe cyclist I met are those who doesn't have basic knowledge on road safety. Like when at a junction, whether if you are making a left turn or right turn. There is always a blind spot. But instead of pushing the bike to cross the road. They rather just ride across it. Come on....Human cover metal can fight with Metal wrap human? I don't mind sharing the road with cyclist. But please keep away from the road when it's heavy traffic or peak hour. Cos I don't want ya blood on my hands.....

[Crispicrispi]

You KL angmoh cyclist?

[Crispicrispi]

This small island is not just an island, it is an over populated city. There is not enough space for pedestrians and vehicles, let alone space for bicycle sport, it is just not practical here these days. Moreover, some cyclists are really rude and disobey traffic rules. They don

Edited August 21, 2012 by Crispicrispi

[Ttbest]

fellow people, i think it is pointless debating who is right who is wrong, who pay tax who doesnt, who use the road and who dont. got balls go and ask LTA or TP for advice and get ur law well before u hit ur keyboard here those keyboard warrior. In the eyes of the law, all vehicles (and a bicycle is classed as a road vehicle) are entitled to equal protection under the law and all vehicles are required to abide by their respective responsibilities as road users and "http://app.lta.gov.sg/corp_press_content.asp?start=1985" u drive? u giv way to them. lan lan SUCK YOUR THUMB. u donwan giv way then DON DRIVE. even LTA support cycling on road. don agree send email to LTA lo fellow selfish coward drivers.

 

This is singapore, not ur GrandFather country. they tax u u pay and stfu. at most don buy car.

 

 

You are incorrect. According to the law "Every bicycle shall be ridden close to the left hand edge of the roadway and in such a manner as not to obstruct vehicles moving at a faster speed."

It is the cyclist who are NOT to obstruct vehicles, not the other way round.

[Ttbest]

I like your comments. [thumbsup] I can never understand why they are people who insist that bicycle should pay road tax before they are allowed to be on the road, despite the fact that the Road Traffic Act does allow bicycle to travel on the public road (except Expressways), subject to the compliance of all traffic rules and regulations.

 

I agree that cyclist can ride on the road (Im a driver and does not cyclist other than at East Coast Park) but the key issue would be compliance of all traffic rules and regulations.

 

The cyclist i've met so far in the city do not bother about rules and regulations, all these caucasians ride as if they own the whole road, not stopping at red light, changing lane as and when they like, blocking buses along bus lane riding in the middle of the lane and many more situations that leave one wondering where are all the TPs when you need them?

[Ttbest]

Yes especially over the weekend along Kranji road. They expect us to follow behind them at 20km/hr.

 

those caucasians think singapore is still a colonial. just blast ur honks at them and give them the good old middle finger!

[Ttbest]

http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sg...f_the_road.html

 

Cyclist really should understand that they should ride to the left on a single file.

 

The poor car on the right had to almost drive onto the kerb to avoid him.

[Kar_lover]

http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sg...f_the_road.html

 

Cyclist really should understand that they should ride to the left on a single file.

 

The poor car on the right had to almost drive onto the kerb to avoid him.

 

In this particular case, maybe the cyclists feel they have "strength in numbers", i.e. there is enough of them to "justify" occupying one whole lane. So they are not so different from a very slow moving lorry driving on the slowest lane.

[Tianake]

fellow people, i think it is pointless debating who is right who is wrong, who pay tax who doesnt, who use the road and who dont. got balls go and ask LTA or TP for advice and get ur law well before u hit ur keyboard here those keyboard warrior. In the eyes of the law, all vehicles (and a bicycle is classed as a road vehicle) are entitled to equal protection under the law and all vehicles are required to abide by their respective responsibilities as road users and "http://app.lta.gov.sg/corp_press_content.asp?start=1985" u drive? u giv way to them. lan lan SUCK YOUR THUMB. u donwan giv way then DON DRIVE. even LTA support cycling on road. don agree send email to LTA lo fellow selfish coward drivers.

 

This is singapore, not ur GrandFather country. they tax u u pay and stfu. at most don buy car.

 

i will love to see a few cyclist kick your car because your car is blocking his way and cause some dents.

by then i will see if you still love cyclist coz you can't claim insurance against them.

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