TP: Road hogging is an offence but tailgating is not

[Thaiyotakamli]

Road hoggers are the cause of traffic delays on expressways, TP should just fine them

 

The revenue collected should be worthwhile to delicate resources to catching them!

Also causing vehicle to pile up and cause chain collision when that bugger jam brake to change lane

 

 

Talking about safety huh

[Thaiyotakamli]

Understand your point. But I almost never see anyone hog lane 1 and drive at 50kmph. If I ever see one, maybe I would just shrug it off and think the person must be a new driver, maybe don't know how to get back to lane 2 or 3. LOL. Just like you and me when we just started driving.

When i first started driving i stick to lane 2. Gosh u must be reckless back then

Yes, I always obey speed limit n traffic rule. I will report those speeding n reckless driver to tp.

 

Our road is for the public usage n not for speeder to show off.

Big ego+ self righteous+ thick face= inconsiderate bloody hogger

[Nzy]

Also causing vehicle to pile up and cause chain collision when that bugger jam brake to change lane

 

 

Talking about safety huh

IMO, don't blame hoggers for causing chain collisions la. Its the tailgaters who cause chain collisions. I also hate hoggers but not everything that happens on the road is their fault. Lol.

[Volvobrick]

uniquely_ad, on 22 Jun 2016 - 5:33 PM, said:

I was overtaken at tpe in the afternoon, fyi i was driving at about 100km/hr so do i still consider myself as a road hogger?

 

I mean if im driving at a high speed you cant expect me to filter to 2nd lane just because you wanna speed faster then me right?

 

100 km/h is not high speed (you may think it is).....

 

Move over please!  I need to overtake at 101 km/h! 

[Thaiyotakamli]

IMO, don't blame hoggers for causing chain collisions la. Its the tailgaters who cause chain collisions. I also hate hoggers but not everything that happens on the road is their fault. Lol.

If road at peak, then i blame tailgaters

 

 

But if theres road hogger in clear road and chain of cars behind, who cause the hazard here?

100 km/h is not high speed (you may think it is).....

 

Move over please! I need to overtake at 101 km/h!

U siam too, i 102

[Nzy]

If road at peak, then i blame tailgaters

 

 

But if theres road hogger in clear road and chain of cars behind, who cause the hazard here?

 

 

Tailgaters got no brakes? They can be irritated by hoggers. But that doesn't mean they have the right to drive recklessly. So I feel that if the road is clear, tailgater still wrong. In fact, he go so close, the hogger might not even be able to see if he high beam. From safe distance then can see the headlights of the car behind.

 

Hoggers cause the traffic to be slow but chain collisions are still caused by people who tailgate.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Nzy

[Thaiyotakamli]

Tailgaters got no brakes? They can be irritated by hoggers. But that doesn't mean they have the right to drive recklessly. So I feel that if the road is clear, tailgater still wrong. In fact, he go so close, the hogger might not even be able to see if he high beam. From safe distance then can see the headlights of the car behind.

Then please get that hogger off the road if he cant see headlight behind. Imagine got ambulance with blinker only, he still wont siam cos he got no habit checking rear view mirror

 

In the end alot of cars either has to follow behind closely or start overtaking from left which is even more dangerous

[Nzy]

Then please get that hogger off the road if he cant see headlight behind. Imagine got ambulance with blinker only, he still wont siam cos he got no habit checking rear view mirror

 

In the end alot of cars either has to follow behind closely or start overtaking from left which is even more dangerous

 

Ambulance blinker is on the roof leh. How many cars have their high beam on the roof? 

 

The drivers behind got no brain of their own? They can choose not to follow closely. You mean lane 1 means cannot use brakes to modulate your speed? Lane 1 must step on the accelerator at all times? Like I said, hoggers are inconsiderate but that doesn't mean the cars behind got the right to be reckless also.

 

They can keep a safe distance behind and signal their intention to overtake. If the person in front insists on hogging, change to the left safely and overtake. There is no need to tailgate unless the driver behind doesn't have a mind of his own or don't know how to overtake from the left safely.

 

I agree that the road hog should be punished but if the driver behind doesn't know how to keep safe distance and overtake from the left safely, he should also be kept off the road.

[inlinesix]

Ambulance blinker is on the roof leh. How many cars have their high beam on the roof? 

 

The drivers behind got no brain of their own? They can choose not to follow closely. You mean lane 1 means cannot use brakes to modulate your speed? Lane 1 must step on the accelerator at all times? Like I said, hoggers are inconsiderate but that doesn't mean the cars behind got the right to be reckless also.

 

They can keep a safe distance behind and signal their intention to overtake. If the person in front insists on hogging, change to the left safely and overtake. There is no need to tailgate unless the driver behind doesn't have a mind of his own or don't know how to overtake from the left safely.

 

I agree that the road hog should be punished but if the driver behind doesn't know how to keep safe distance and overtake from the left safely, he should also be kept off the road.

 

That's 1 of the cause of accident. 

 

Nowadays, a lot of ppl don't know how to moderate speed with accelerator only

[Nzy]

That's 1 of the cause of accident. 

 

Nowadays, a lot of ppl don't know how to moderate speed with accelerator only

 

I meant control their speed whether using the foot brake or engine brake. From the way he post, it seems like tailgaters have no proper skill and cannot control their cars. Maybe they should get off the road if they can't control their speed.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Nzy

[Audi2016]

If road at peak, then i blame tailgaters

 

 

But if theres road hogger in clear road and chain of cars behind, who cause the hazard here?

U siam too, i 102

 

Bro I coming over now 180km/h

 

Flash light liao, thanks 

[Vratenza]

I think I said it once before..... road hoggers are idiots but to tailgate is not any smarter too.

 

How many hoggers have anyone encountered who will relent and move over just because they are being tailgated? Most of the hoggers are pretty professional and religious about their self righteous role.

 

No point tailgating them, just follow the usual safe distance for a short while, in the mean time, check your left 2 lanes' condition and plan your undertaking move. Once clear, just signal and make a decisive move to undertake them.

 

 

 

 

Ambulance blinker is on the roof leh. How many cars have their high beam on the roof? 

 

The drivers behind got no brain of their own? They can choose not to follow closely. You mean lane 1 means cannot use brakes to modulate your speed? Lane 1 must step on the accelerator at all times? Like I said, hoggers are inconsiderate but that doesn't mean the cars behind got the right to be reckless also.

 

They can keep a safe distance behind and signal their intention to overtake. If the person in front insists on hogging, change to the left safely and overtake. There is no need to tailgate unless the driver behind doesn't have a mind of his own or don't know how to overtake from the left safely.

 

I agree that the road hog should be punished but if the driver behind doesn't know how to keep safe distance and overtake from the left safely, he should also be kept off the road.

 

[Thaiyotakamli]

Ambulance blinker is on the roof leh. How many cars have their high beam on the roof?

 

The drivers behind got no brain of their own? They can choose not to follow closely. You mean lane 1 means cannot use brakes to modulate your speed? Lane 1 must step on the accelerator at all times? Like I said, hoggers are inconsiderate but that doesn't mean the cars behind got the right to be reckless also.

 

They can keep a safe distance behind and signal their intention to overtake. If the person in front insists on hogging, change to the left safely and overtake. There is no need to tailgate unless the driver behind doesn't have a mind of his own or don't know how to overtake from the left safely.

 

I agree that the road hog should be punished but if the driver behind doesn't know how to keep safe distance and overtake from the left safely, he should also be kept off the road.

sorry ah my high beam within one car distance can see clearly. moreover during daylight u think u can see blinker reflection? Its more whether road hogger see rear mirror anot. I think road hogger dunno whats rear mirror used for. Even if no high beam, one should know to siam if car behind come close and front of u empty. Simple basic road courtesy.

 

Yes the one behind have choice to stay close or a distance away to keep safety. But some choose to follow closer than safety to indicate that they want to go faster.

 

And no such thing overtake from left safely. Overtake from right is better as speed in lane 2 are slower than lane 1. So its easier for lane 1 road hogger to give way by filtering to lane 2.

 

Whats worse? Lane 2 traffic same speed as road hogger, how to overtake? Need filter to lane 3? Thats even more dangerous. Some road hogger i overtake from left and purposely speed up to close the gap. Tell me who should be kept off from the road?

 

 

Fyi i am not road hogger and not tailgater. I always keep safe distance. I do high beam when i meet road hogger, if safe to do so, i will overtake from left

[Civic6228]

That's 1 of the cause of accident. 

 

Nowadays, a lot of ppl don't know how to moderate speed with accelerator only

 

I am irritated by such poor driving habit as well. Don't these drivers knows that the car will slow down if you left your foot off the accelerator.

 

Bo tai bo ji ... set on the brake damn irritating. Beside will also save on the brake pads if they don't step on the accelerator. 

Edited June 23, 2016 by Civic6228

[Weez911]

I was once tailgated by the first convoy car of the Johor Sultan along Orchard Road. His pink lambo followed behind, and another car behind the pink lambo. It was quite late at night hence the road was not as busy as usual. I was above speed limit but the convoy was easily moving much faster than me.

 

Surprise, surprise - I did what a normal Singaporean would not do, which was to let them pass. I felt very proud because he must have known by now there is at least one Singapore who has common sense, living amongst a horde of mean people who die die refuse to let faster cars pass.

 

I slept well that night because I knew I made Singapore proud. The nation owes me one, Mr Lee.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Weez911

[Nzy]

sorry ah my high beam within one car distance can see clearly. moreover during daylight u think u can see blinker reflection? Its more whether road hogger see rear mirror anot. I think road hogger dunno whats rear mirror used for. Even if no high beam, one should know to siam if car behind come close and front of u empty. Simple basic road courtesy.

 

Yes the one behind have choice to stay close or a distance away to keep safety. But some choose to follow closer than safety to indicate that they want to go faster.

 

And no such thing overtake from left safely. Overtake from right is better as speed in lane 2 are slower than lane 1. So its easier for lane 1 road hogger to give way by filtering to lane 2.

 

Whats worse? Lane 2 traffic same speed as road hogger, how to overtake? Need filter to lane 3? Thats even more dangerous. Some road hogger i overtake from left and purposely speed up to close the gap. Tell me who should be kept off from the road?

 

 

Fyi i am not road hogger and not tailgater. I always keep safe distance. I do high beam when i meet road hogger, if safe to do so, i will overtake from left

 

How to see from 1 car length? If a car comes so close to my rear, can't even see the headlights. He highbeam or not, still look the same. When the car behind is further back, when he highbeam, it will shine directly into the car infront getting the front car's attention. 

 

They choose to follow closely means they are reckless lo. Why don't keep safe distance? Can always signal that they want to overtake by using highbeam. If the road hog doesn't want to give way after highbeam, he won't give way if you tailgate. The tailgater is just waiting to get into an accident only. Tailgating is still more dangerous than overtaking from the left. Whatever the front car does, it isn't right to tailgate.

 

Changing lanes to overtake from the left is not dangerous and is allowed if the driver can drive properly. Unless you mean many drivers can't do a lane change safely? How many drivers are so bad at driving that everytime they change lane they are a danger? If they are that bad, they should be kept off the roads.

 

Changing lanes, everything is within the driver's control if he is paying attention and looks out for surrounding obstacles before doing so. Whereas for tailgating, the driver cannot control whether the car infront will ebrake for whatever reason or not. How can that be safer than doing a lane change?

I am irritated by such poor driving habit as well. Don't these drivers knows that the car will slow down if you left your foot off the accelerator.

 

Bo tai bo ji ... set on the brake damn irritating. Beside will also save on the brake pads if they don't step on the accelerator. 

 

Is it possible the car is braking itself? I borrowed a volvo to drive last week and noticed that the safety features are quite sensitive in certain situations. Eg, there was once when a car changed into my lane infront of me with quite a big gap of about 2 car lengths and I could have just released the accelerator and regain the safe distance but the car automatically braked quite hardly and slowed the car down immediately.

[Vratenza]

Don't ghey ghey.....you knew there was a mobile speed cam further ahead right?

 

I was once tailgated by the first convoy car of the Johor Sultan along Orchard Road. His pink lambo followed behind, and another car behind the pink lambo. It was quite late at night hence the road was not as busy as usual. I was above speed limit but the convoy was easily moving much faster than me.

 

Surprise, surprise - I did what a normal Singaporean would not do, which was to let them pass. I felt very proud because he must have known by now there is at least one Singapore who has common sense, living amongst a horde of mean people who die die refuse to let faster cars pass.

 

I slept well that night because I knew I made Singapore proud. The nation owes me one, Mr Lee.

 

[Lok666]

That's 1 of the cause of accident. 

 

Nowadays, a lot of ppl don't know how to moderate speed with accelerator only

 

Couldn't agree more. I actually can't stand those tailgaters who keep braking incessantly more than road hoggers, whom I can at least overtake safely. This type of tailgaters can be very unpredictable because you never know when they are going to jam brake or rush out suddenly, which poses a big risk to those behind them.