2014 Mercedes-Benz C-Class

[brosy79]

 

actually its not normal hor.... if you need to constantly top up... check for leaks or replace gaskets.. worst will be sludge formation....engine up lorry.... just saying tat only PeeML will say its normal....

 

haha...when there is oil leak, you got to top up every 1K, 2k milage, when nothing wrong, every 5k they will prompt you for the milk..it's common for E60, F10 not sure.

 

[Hais]

 

Issue 1 : Actually what is spring-y ah? So far there is only one weird sound with my car, which is the "ze..ze ze..ze" like the disc start turning in the CD player once a while.

 

Issue 2 : Sound is produced via vibration, If speaker no vibration, then the speaker no sound one wo, do you mean the speaker broken sound?

 

So far so good with my car, mine only the right passenger door need greater force to close, lazy go back to CnC to check as not that bad also, think will highlight to them during first servicing.

c&c said the speaker sound is also normal again this morning. i have to reason with them to proof i am right. i tune their test drive car to the same setting as my car... the test drive car has no issue but my car got the funny sound.... then only they admit something is wrong with my car's speaker.

 

the sound coming out from the start button is still not resolve, they still insist it is 'normal'.

Once you press the start button and when you drive for first few minutes you will notice the sound.

 

Is it possible to meet up and hear if your car got the same sound? the test drive unit also have the same funny sound...maybe you guys never notice it... i would really appreciate if we can meet up to conclude if such sound coming out from keyless entry is normal.

[Thaiyotakamli]

U got lemon car

[Damienic]

c&c said the speaker sound is also normal again this morning. i have to reason with them to proof i am right. i tune their test drive car to the same setting as my car... the test drive car has no issue but my car got the funny sound.... then only they admit something is wrong with my car's speaker.

 

the sound coming out from the start button is still not resolve, they still insist it is 'normal'.

Once you press the start button and when you drive for first few minutes you will notice the sound.

 

Is it possible to meet up and hear if your car got the same sound? the test drive unit also have the same funny sound...maybe you guys never notice it... i would really appreciate if we can meet up to conclude if such sound coming out from keyless entry is normal.

Many people think the world of buying from AD, insisting it is the only way to go, but turns out that AD can sometimes play punk also coming up with lame excuses for vehicle faults. Looking at past horror stories coming out from PML, VGS and now even C&C, it makes you wonder.

[inlinesix]

Many people think the world of buying from AD, insisting it is the only way to go, but turns out that AD can sometimes play punk also coming up with lame excuses for vehicle faults. Looking at past horror stories coming out from PML, VGS and now even C&C, it makes you wonder.

 

Unfortunately, it does not worth the effort to buy B&B via PI route. The absolute saving does not justify the effort.

[Innocuous]

U got lemon car

 

 

Don't say that Thaiyo , you make him worry more

 

Just send back to C&C and insist your way ....

[nigel8210]

So far after driving 2600Km and 5weeks plus, for my C200 via PI route, here are the niggling small complains

 

1. Driver side noise insulation, at high speed of 80km and above I can hear wind coming in....

2. insensitive touchpad, now I finally realise I need to press the back button on the touchpad a few times to ''regain'' it to work whenever I find it not really working (mine is the first few batch from the German Plant) I heard a lot of people got this complain from the first few batches

 

3. 7-G tronics Gearbox start to feel more ''rough'' and not as smooth as before, I can virtually feel a slight jerk occasionally when I rev to overtake

 

I am still thinking should I bring for engine oil change, PI dealer says I should go after 1000Km

but everywhere I read for Merc and BMW, first servcing is around 10-15K KM

Any recommendations?

 

 

[Angchug]

Many people think the world of buying from AD, insisting it is the only way to go, but turns out that AD can sometimes play punk also coming up with lame excuses for vehicle faults. Looking at past horror stories coming out from PML, VGS and now even C&C, it makes you wonder.

I think is subjective. My neighbour is driving a C200. Both headlight stopped working after 4 years.

He went back to CnC to complain. They replaced both Headlight FOC.

[Thaiyotakamli]

 

 

Don't say that Thaiyo , you make him worry more

 

Just send back to C&C and insist your way ....

i also got lemon for my E250 from c&c

 

less than a month engine mounting and need stay workshop for a week

[Damienic]

 

Unfortunately, it does not worth the effort to buy B&B via PI route. The absolute saving does not justify the effort.

what is your defintion of B&B? I guess cars like Vezel and etc are considered B&B. how about C200 or the 4 series, is it still considered B&B?

I think is subjective. My neighbour is driving a C200. Both headlight stopped working after 4 years.

He went back to CnC to complain. They replaced both Headlight FOC.

 

I think issues like headlights is very absolute. It is either working or not working at all. So any AD or dealer can't argue against it. However, the problems brought up such as unusual noises and sound is a bit grey and often subject to arguments. In the case that was just highlighted, I find it rdiculous for the AD to brush away sounds coming out as normal sounds from keyless entry. I just don't buy it.

 

There are also instances of customer lodging claims with the SCT against VGS for persistent issues which they cannot solve/refused to honour. So you can get such potential pitfalls from buying from AD afterall.

So far after driving 2600Km and 5weeks plus, for my C200 via PI route, here are the niggling small complains

 

1. Driver side noise insulation, at high speed of 80km and above I can hear wind coming in....

2. insensitive touchpad, now I finally realise I need to press the back button on the touchpad a few times to ''regain'' it to work whenever I find it not really working (mine is the first few batch from the German Plant) I heard a lot of people got this complain from the first few batches

 

3. 7-G tronics Gearbox start to feel more ''rough'' and not as smooth as before, I can virtually feel a slight jerk occasionally when I rev to overtake

 

I am still thinking should I bring for engine oil change, PI dealer says I should go after 1000Km

but everywhere I read for Merc and BMW, first servcing is around 10-15K KM

Any recommendations?

 

 

 

Did you raise these issues with the P.I?

[Forte3737]

Those could be the minority. On that other hand, buying from PI very risky

Many people think the world of buying from AD, insisting it is the only way to go, but turns out that AD can sometimes play punk also coming up with lame excuses for vehicle faults. Looking at past horror stories coming out from PML, VGS and now even C&C, it makes you wonder.

 

Depends on which PI one raise it to

what is your defintion of B&B? I guess cars like Vezel and etc are considered B&B. how about C200 or the 4 series, is it still considered B&B?

 

I think issues like headlights is very absolute. It is either working or not working at all. So any AD or dealer can't argue against it. However, the problems brought up such as unusual noises and sound is a bit grey and often subject to arguments. In the case that was just highlighted, I find it rdiculous for the AD to brush away sounds coming out as normal sounds from keyless entry. I just don't buy it.

 

There are also instances of customer lodging claims with the SCT against VGS for persistent issues which they cannot solve/refused to honour. So you can get such potential pitfalls from buying from AD afterall.

 

Did you raise these issues with the P.I?

 

[inlinesix]

what is your defintion of B&B? I guess cars like Vezel and etc are considered B&B. how about C200 or the 4 series, is it still considered B&B?

 

Non B&B are C400, C63, 335/435 & etc

 

Vazel may not worth the effort if it is local AD has it.

[brosy79]

c&c said the speaker sound is also normal again this morning. i have to reason with them to proof i am right. i tune their test drive car to the same setting as my car... the test drive car has no issue but my car got the funny sound.... then only they admit something is wrong with my car's speaker.

 

the sound coming out from the start button is still not resolve, they still insist it is 'normal'.

Once you press the start button and when you drive for first few minutes you will notice the sound.

 

Is it possible to meet up and hear if your car got the same sound? the test drive unit also have the same funny sound...maybe you guys never notice it... i would really appreciate if we can meet up to conclude if such sound coming out from keyless entry is normal.

 

Bro, remembered I mentioned the ze ze sound like the CD player reading disc in my post? Today i switch off the radio and tried to listen carefully where it's coming from, i think this is the sound that you mentioned, but it's not happening when start the engine, mine is on off and once a while, usually just one time, ze for 3-4 times continuously, can be starting, mid of driving but not everytime can hear.

[nigel8210]

to all the AD owners out there, are you required to bring your car for 1000Km oil change?

[Angchug]

to all the AD owners out there, are you required to bring your car for 1000Km oil change?

For C class first oil change either 15,000km or 12 month as recommended by CnC.

[inlinesix]

to all the AD owners out there, are you required to bring your car for 1000Km oil change?

 

Aiya, the car will tell you when to go for servicing.

 

Mind you, 1k km is old skool. Very likely Merc engine has been run-in already. These extra oil change is required if the car has been in the warehouse for a long time (like 6 - 12 mths).

[brosy79]

to all the AD owners out there, are you required to bring your car for 1000Km oil change?

 

I asked my SE few times, before collect car, during test drive, few days before collection, collecting the car..and finally he said, bro, you very nagging..if you want to change then just bring in to change, we will change for you if you insist, if not, we recomend to change at 15K KM or 1 year whichever earlier.

[Coolad]

 

I asked my SE few times, before collect car, during test drive, few days before collection, collecting the car..and finally he said, bro, you very nagging..if you want to change then just bring in to change, we will change for you if you insist, if not, we recomend to change at 15K KM or 1 year whichever earlier.

 

If you can keep up the change every 1-5k for next 10years... ur engine will still look like brand new at the 10th year....