Honda Vezel

[Niltrams]

Hi guys,

 

Would like to comment on my first week of Hybrid Z ownership.

 

There's many comments I saw on why should we purchase a Hybrid, due to the following concerns. I will address each of them.

 

1) The 5 infamous recalls of the 7-Speed dual-clutch gearbox in Japan

 

Yes, granted that the i-DCD system has been recalled 5 times. And FIXED. I know we all have some jitters about such recalls especially for a Japan made product, and what's more we are not covered by Kah Motors but individual PIs workshops which we might not trust.

 

Ok, lets be objective about this. We are talking about Made-in-Japan, there's extreme pride in the Japanese people to fix these issues and make sure they do not manifest again. My vehicle has been verified to be produced and updated with the latest software before shipping out to Singapore, so I have confidence it will not happen.

 

Even if touch wood the unfortunate happen, I don't believe the DSG impossible to fix. The Japanese will not allow that. In honesty, Honda used to have more serious problems with their first generation CVTs, which mostly could not last more than 200,000km without breaking down. These are the very CVTs running in all the auto GD1 Jazz/Fits, City and Airwave.

 

If you dig deeper into the recalls, it is generally a software bug that causes the gearbox not to operate. 5 iterations of software updates, I am quite sure these goblins are eradicated.

 

 

2) Concerns about the hybrid battery lifespan

 

You might have heard of horror stories of Civic Hybrids having to replace their full battery pack at Kah Motors and charging them 10 grand. However, we need to look at the very root of the issue; NiMh batteries. These batteries are old-tech. The next generation of batteries are Li-Ion/Po.

 

Honda states the new Lithium-Ion battery pack can possibly have a lifespan of 10 years, provided you take good care of it. Given our weather, I don't fully expect the battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give up within 5 years. In fact, the battery pack being Li-Ion means that there is a possibility of changing out individual retired cells in the battery array. This means greater serviceability and durability of the entire battery pack.

 

Moreover, as technology improves, we expect battery prices to drop within 5 years. I mean come on, look at your handphones! We were hard-pressed to get even 500 mAh from our old Nokia NiMh batts, but the same form factor can pack >2500 mAh in Li-Ion form today, are we are nonplussed to charge them with China charges and even sleep next to them.

 

Give technology a chance!

 

 

3) Overall cost increase VS the fuel savings

 

Yes, the Hybrid costs so much more than the standard Vezel and the average FC is probably only around 5-7 km/L better than the standard Vezel, which means that fuel savings are insignificant compared to the cost delta. By pure logic, it makes zero sense to purchase the Hybrid for savings.

 

Which, in Singapore, is exactly true!

 

We are not buying high to save money on petrol. We are buying technology, the chance to own a fine piece of Honda engineering and savouring how the whole package comes together. We are paying for the ability to utilize Japan's first homegrown DSG (Mitsu Evo X SST is built by Getrag Germany, not counted), and the option of driving like a pussy hyper-miler or a decent 150+ hp 7-speed quick shifting vehicle. FYI the 2.0L CR-V has around 155hp but lugs a 1.5 ton body around.

 

I enjoy the Hybrid every time I start it up, crawl out of my carpark on pure EV mode, and have great fun doing a max economy run, which sometimes I easily cross 27 km/l on ideal conditions. Or I can be a idiot and engage Sports mode and rage through traffic with the excellent handling characteristics of the Vezel (although its really harsh). Hey, it has i-VTEC and DOHC after all!

 

The premium I paid for the Hybrid can never be justified in terms of fuel savings. However, you also cannot quantify the ability to switch from Mr Jekyll to Mr Hyde at a flick of a button. Its fun! This is why I love Honda, and why I love my Vezel Hybrid.

 

So for those guys who really sitting on the fence between Hybrid and non-Hybrid, my invitation to test drive the Hybrid still stands, just PM me if you need just that little nudge to be convinced ;) ! And even so, follow your heart to buy the Vezel. I am just sharing my honest viewpoints from a Hybrid owner.

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

[Dino-Lee]

Bro Niltrams, both your review of the Vezel is wonderful to read and with the technology updates in it. I seriously think you should post your review in the MCF car forum so that more people can enjoy the finer points of the Vezel.

[Rationalexuberance]

SEE YOU SOON BRO!!

 

 

Hi guys,

 

Would like to comment on my first week of Hybrid Z ownership.

 

There's many comments I saw on why should we purchase a Hybrid, due to the following concerns. I will address each of them.

 

1) The 5 infamous recalls of the 7-Speed dual-clutch gearbox in Japan

 

Yes, granted that the i-DCD system has been recalled 5 times. And FIXED. I know we all have some jitters about such recalls especially for a Japan made product, and what's more we are not covered by Kah Motors but individual PIs workshops which we might not trust.

 

Ok, lets be objective about this. We are talking about Made-in-Japan, there's extreme pride in the Japanese people to fix these issues and make sure they do not manifest again. My vehicle has been verified to be produced and updated with the latest software before shipping out to Singapore, so I have confidence it will not happen.

 

Even if touch wood the unfortunate happen, I don't believe the DSG impossible to fix. The Japanese will not allow that. In honesty, Honda used to have more serious problems with their first generation CVTs, which mostly could not last more than 200,000km without breaking down. These are the very CVTs running in all the auto GD1 Jazz/Fits, City and Airwave.

 

If you dig deeper into the recalls, it is generally a software bug that causes the gearbox not to operate. 5 iterations of software updates, I am quite sure these goblins are eradicated.

 

 

2) Concerns about the hybrid battery lifespan

 

You might have heard of horror stories of Civic Hybrids having to replace their full battery pack at Kah Motors and charging them 10 grand. However, we need to look at the very root of the issue; NiMh batteries. These batteries are old-tech. The next generation of batteries are Li-Ion/Po.

 

Honda states the new Lithium-Ion battery pack can possibly have a lifespan of 10 years, provided you take good care of it. Given our weather, I don't fully expect the battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give up within 5 years. In fact, the battery pack being Li-Ion means that there is a possibility of changing out individual retired cells in the battery array. This means greater serviceability and durability of the entire battery pack.

 

Moreover, as technology improves, we expect battery prices to drop within 5 years. I mean come on, look at your handphones! We were hard-pressed to get even 500 mAh from our old Nokia NiMh batts, but the same form factor can pack >2500 mAh in Li-Ion form today, are we are nonplussed to charge them with China charges and even sleep next to them.

 

Give technology a chance!

 

 

3) Overall cost increase VS the fuel savings

 

Yes, the Hybrid costs so much more than the standard Vezel and the average FC is probably only around 5-7 km/L better than the standard Vezel, which means that fuel savings are insignificant compared to the cost delta. By pure logic, it makes zero sense to purchase the Hybrid for savings.

 

Which, in Singapore, is exactly true!

 

We are not buying high to save money on petrol. We are buying technology, the chance to own a fine piece of Honda engineering and savouring how the whole package comes together. We are paying for the ability to utilize Japan's first homegrown DSG (Mitsu Evo X SST is built by Getrag Germany, not counted), and the option of driving like a pussy hyper-miler or a decent 150+ hp 7-speed quick shifting vehicle. FYI the 2.0L CR-V has around 155hp but lugs a 1.5 ton body around.

 

I enjoy the Hybrid every time I start it up, crawl out of my carpark on pure EV mode, and have great fun doing a max economy run, which sometimes I easily cross 27 km/l on ideal conditions. Or I can be a idiot and engage Sports mode and rage through traffic with the excellent handling characteristics of the Vezel (although its really harsh). Hey, it has i-VTEC and DOHC after all!

 

The premium I paid for the Hybrid can never be justified in terms of fuel savings. However, you also cannot quantify the ability to switch from Mr Jekyll to Mr Hyde at a flick of a button. Its fun! This is why I love Honda, and why I love my Vezel Hybrid.

 

So for those guys who really sitting on the fence between Hybrid and non-Hybrid, my invitation to test drive the Hybrid still stands, just PM me if you need just that little nudge to be convinced ;) ! And even so, follow your heart to buy the Vezel. I am just sharing my honest viewpoints from a Hybrid owner.

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

 

[logic69]

Hi guys,

 

Would like to comment on my first week of Hybrid Z ownership.

 

There's many comments I saw on why should we purchase a Hybrid, due to the following concerns. I will address each of them.

 

1) The 5 infamous recalls of the 7-Speed dual-clutch gearbox in Japan

 

Yes, granted that the i-DCD system has been recalled 5 times. And FIXED. I know we all have some jitters about such recalls especially for a Japan made product, and what's more we are not covered by Kah Motors but individual PIs workshops which we might not trust.

 

Ok, lets be objective about this. We are talking about Made-in-Japan, there's extreme pride in the Japanese people to fix these issues and make sure they do not manifest again. My vehicle has been verified to be produced and updated with the latest software before shipping out to Singapore, so I have confidence it will not happen.

 

Even if touch wood the unfortunate happen, I don't believe the DSG impossible to fix. The Japanese will not allow that. In honesty, Honda used to have more serious problems with their first generation CVTs, which mostly could not last more than 200,000km without breaking down. These are the very CVTs running in all the auto GD1 Jazz/Fits, City and Airwave.

 

If you dig deeper into the recalls, it is generally a software bug that causes the gearbox not to operate. 5 iterations of software updates, I am quite sure these goblins are eradicated.

 

 

2) Concerns about the hybrid battery lifespan

 

You might have heard of horror stories of Civic Hybrids having to replace their full battery pack at Kah Motors and charging them 10 grand. However, we need to look at the very root of the issue; NiMh batteries. These batteries are old-tech. The next generation of batteries are Li-Ion/Po.

 

Honda states the new Lithium-Ion battery pack can possibly have a lifespan of 10 years, provided you take good care of it. Given our weather, I don't fully expect the battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give up within 5 years. In fact, the battery pack being Li-Ion means that there is a possibility of changing out individual retired cells in the battery array. This means greater serviceability and durability of the entire battery pack.

 

Moreover, as technology improves, we expect battery prices to drop within 5 years. I mean come on, look at your handphones! We were hard-pressed to get even 500 mAh from our old Nokia NiMh batts, but the same form factor can pack >2500 mAh in Li-Ion form today, are we are nonplussed to charge them with China charges and even sleep next to them.

 

Give technology a chance!

 

 

3) Overall cost increase VS the fuel savings

 

Yes, the Hybrid costs so much more than the standard Vezel and the average FC is probably only around 5-7 km/L better than the standard Vezel, which means that fuel savings are insignificant compared to the cost delta. By pure logic, it makes zero sense to purchase the Hybrid for savings.

 

Which, in Singapore, is exactly true!

 

We are not buying high to save money on petrol. We are buying technology, the chance to own a fine piece of Honda engineering and savouring how the whole package comes together. We are paying for the ability to utilize Japan's first homegrown DSG (Mitsu Evo X SST is built by Getrag Germany, not counted), and the option of driving like a pussy hyper-miler or a decent 150+ hp 7-speed quick shifting vehicle. FYI the 2.0L CR-V has around 155hp but lugs a 1.5 ton body around.

 

I enjoy the Hybrid every time I start it up, crawl out of my carpark on pure EV mode, and have great fun doing a max economy run, which sometimes I easily cross 27 km/l on ideal conditions. Or I can be a idiot and engage Sports mode and rage through traffic with the excellent handling characteristics of the Vezel (although its really harsh). Hey, it has i-VTEC and DOHC after all!

 

The premium I paid for the Hybrid can never be justified in terms of fuel savings. However, you also cannot quantify the ability to switch from Mr Jekyll to Mr Hyde at a flick of a button. Its fun! This is why I love Honda, and why I love my Vezel Hybrid.

 

So for those guys who really sitting on the fence between Hybrid and non-Hybrid, my invitation to test drive the Hybrid still stands, just PM me if you need just that little nudge to be convinced ;) ! And even so, follow your heart to buy the Vezel. I am just sharing my honest viewpoints from a Hybrid owner.

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

 

You nailed the point and I fully agree with you.

[Knoogy]

Will be collecting my baby vezel tomorrow. Thinking to install front n back camera.Any brand and workshop to recommend?

 

Personally i am getting the Blackvue DR650 2CH. Cost ard $600+ including installation. If you were to add the PowerMagic Pro module to enable you the option of running your car 24/7 or just when the engine is running, this would cost an additional $65. Hope this helps. I am using the 1st gen DR400 from Blackvue. Love the low profile and simplistic design.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Knoogy

[turboless]

I just upgraded from iroad aev to v7 today.

Wiring is simple and well hidden. Both front and back.

24hrs recording without extra power bank

Any bros interested, i can pass u my installer contact.

Please pm me the contact, thanks.

[pokadot]

I just upgraded from iroad aev to v7 today.

Wiring is simple and well hidden. Both front and back.

24hrs recording without extra power bank

Any bros interested, i can pass u my installer contact.

 

 

Bro, can I trouble you to post a picture of the rear cam installation? Curious to know how the cable runs to the cam. Many thanks ahead.

[Kennethwong]

 

Err. As far as I understand, Aircon is not so much on the settings.

 

Example: If you set temperature to 23 degrees and the cabin temperature starts to increase above the 23 degrees while your engine has stopped at a traffic light, it will restart the engine immediately. (Please correct me if I am wrong)

 

Yes, it happens to me. I set my temperature at 20 degrees, the engine was stop and then it automatic start again

[Zippu]

Hi guys,

 

Would like to comment on my first week of Hybrid Z ownership.

 

There's many comments I saw on why should we purchase a Hybrid, due to the following concerns. I will address each of them.

 

1) The 5 infamous recalls of the 7-Speed dual-clutch gearbox in Japan

 

Yes, granted that the i-DCD system has been recalled 5 times. And FIXED. I know we all have some jitters about such recalls especially for a Japan made product, and what's more we are not covered by Kah Motors but individual PIs workshops which we might not trust.

 

Ok, lets be objective about this. We are talking about Made-in-Japan, there's extreme pride in the Japanese people to fix these issues and make sure they do not manifest again. My vehicle has been verified to be produced and updated with the latest software before shipping out to Singapore, so I have confidence it will not happen.

 

Even if touch wood the unfortunate happen, I don't believe the DSG impossible to fix. The Japanese will not allow that. In honesty, Honda used to have more serious problems with their first generation CVTs, which mostly could not last more than 200,000km without breaking down. These are the very CVTs running in all the auto GD1 Jazz/Fits, City and Airwave.

 

If you dig deeper into the recalls, it is generally a software bug that causes the gearbox not to operate. 5 iterations of software updates, I am quite sure these goblins are eradicated.

 

 

2) Concerns about the hybrid battery lifespan

 

You might have heard of horror stories of Civic Hybrids having to replace their full battery pack at Kah Motors and charging them 10 grand. However, we need to look at the very root of the issue; NiMh batteries. These batteries are old-tech. The next generation of batteries are Li-Ion/Po.

 

Honda states the new Lithium-Ion battery pack can possibly have a lifespan of 10 years, provided you take good care of it. Given our weather, I don't fully expect the battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give up within 5 years. In fact, the battery pack being Li-Ion means that there is a possibility of changing out individual retired cells in the battery array. This means greater serviceability and durability of the entire battery pack.

 

Moreover, as technology improves, we expect battery prices to drop within 5 years. I mean come on, look at your handphones! We were hard-pressed to get even 500 mAh from our old Nokia NiMh batts, but the same form factor can pack >2500 mAh in Li-Ion form today, are we are nonplussed to charge them with China charges and even sleep next to them.

 

Give technology a chance!

 

 

3) Overall cost increase VS the fuel savings

 

Yes, the Hybrid costs so much more than the standard Vezel and the average FC is probably only around 5-7 km/L better than the standard Vezel, which means that fuel savings are insignificant compared to the cost delta. By pure logic, it makes zero sense to purchase the Hybrid for savings.

 

Which, in Singapore, is exactly true!

 

We are not buying high to save money on petrol. We are buying technology, the chance to own a fine piece of Honda engineering and savouring how the whole package comes together. We are paying for the ability to utilize Japan's first homegrown DSG (Mitsu Evo X SST is built by Getrag Germany, not counted), and the option of driving like a pussy hyper-miler or a decent 150+ hp 7-speed quick shifting vehicle. FYI the 2.0L CR-V has around 155hp but lugs a 1.5 ton body around.

 

I enjoy the Hybrid every time I start it up, crawl out of my carpark on pure EV mode, and have great fun doing a max economy run, which sometimes I easily cross 27 km/l on ideal conditions. Or I can be a idiot and engage Sports mode and rage through traffic with the excellent handling characteristics of the Vezel (although its really harsh). Hey, it has i-VTEC and DOHC after all!

 

The premium I paid for the Hybrid can never be justified in terms of fuel savings. However, you also cannot quantify the ability to switch from Mr Jekyll to Mr Hyde at a flick of a button. Its fun! This is why I love Honda, and why I love my Vezel Hybrid.

 

So for those guys who really sitting on the fence between Hybrid and non-Hybrid, my invitation to test drive the Hybrid still stands, just PM me if you need just that little nudge to be convinced ;) ! And even so, follow your heart to buy the Vezel. I am just sharing my honest viewpoints from a Hybrid owner.

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

Bro @Niltrams, you are the man! you have given me some peace of mind with my decision for the Hybrid-Z. Always look forward to reading your feedbak and reviews. Thank you!

[Vega]

for hybrid cars, will the battery face the same problem as a laptop battery which after a few yrs (normal 2 yrs), the battery can't hold the charge for long?

eg. a brand new laptop battery can last 4 hours but after 2 yrs, only 1/2 hr.......

[Soonkuay76]

Hi guys,

 

Would like to comment on my first week of Hybrid Z ownership.

 

There's many comments I saw on why should we purchase a Hybrid, due to the following concerns. I will address each of them.

 

1) The 5 infamous recalls of the 7-Speed dual-clutch gearbox in Japan

 

Yes, granted that the i-DCD system has been recalled 5 times. And FIXED. I know we all have some jitters about such recalls especially for a Japan made product, and what's more we are not covered by Kah Motors but individual PIs workshops which we might not trust.

 

Ok, lets be objective about this. We are talking about Made-in-Japan, there's extreme pride in the Japanese people to fix these issues and make sure they do not manifest again. My vehicle has been verified to be produced and updated with the latest software before shipping out to Singapore, so I have confidence it will not happen.

 

Even if touch wood the unfortunate happen, I don't believe the DSG impossible to fix. The Japanese will not allow that. In honesty, Honda used to have more serious problems with their first generation CVTs, which mostly could not last more than 200,000km without breaking down. These are the very CVTs running in all the auto GD1 Jazz/Fits, City and Airwave.

 

If you dig deeper into the recalls, it is generally a software bug that causes the gearbox not to operate. 5 iterations of software updates, I am quite sure these goblins are eradicated.

 

 

2) Concerns about the hybrid battery lifespan

 

You might have heard of horror stories of Civic Hybrids having to replace their full battery pack at Kah Motors and charging them 10 grand. However, we need to look at the very root of the issue; NiMh batteries. These batteries are old-tech. The next generation of batteries are Li-Ion/Po.

 

Honda states the new Lithium-Ion battery pack can possibly have a lifespan of 10 years, provided you take good care of it. Given our weather, I don't fully expect the battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give up within 5 years. In fact, the battery pack being Li-Ion means that there is a possibility of changing out individual retired cells in the battery array. This means greater serviceability and durability of the entire battery pack.

 

Moreover, as technology improves, we expect battery prices to drop within 5 years. I mean come on, look at your handphones! We were hard-pressed to get even 500 mAh from our old Nokia NiMh batts, but the same form factor can pack >2500 mAh in Li-Ion form today, are we are nonplussed to charge them with China charges and even sleep next to them.

 

Give technology a chance!

 

 

3) Overall cost increase VS the fuel savings

 

Yes, the Hybrid costs so much more than the standard Vezel and the average FC is probably only around 5-7 km/L better than the standard Vezel, which means that fuel savings are insignificant compared to the cost delta. By pure logic, it makes zero sense to purchase the Hybrid for savings.

 

Which, in Singapore, is exactly true!

 

We are not buying high to save money on petrol. We are buying technology, the chance to own a fine piece of Honda engineering and savouring how the whole package comes together. We are paying for the ability to utilize Japan's first homegrown DSG (Mitsu Evo X SST is built by Getrag Germany, not counted), and the option of driving like a pussy hyper-miler or a decent 150+ hp 7-speed quick shifting vehicle. FYI the 2.0L CR-V has around 155hp but lugs a 1.5 ton body around.

 

I enjoy the Hybrid every time I start it up, crawl out of my carpark on pure EV mode, and have great fun doing a max economy run, which sometimes I easily cross 27 km/l on ideal conditions. Or I can be a idiot and engage Sports mode and rage through traffic with the excellent handling characteristics of the Vezel (although its really harsh). Hey, it has i-VTEC and DOHC after all!

 

The premium I paid for the Hybrid can never be justified in terms of fuel savings. However, you also cannot quantify the ability to switch from Mr Jekyll to Mr Hyde at a flick of a button. Its fun! This is why I love Honda, and why I love my Vezel Hybrid.

 

So for those guys who really sitting on the fence between Hybrid and non-Hybrid, my invitation to test drive the Hybrid still stands, just PM me if you need just that little nudge to be convinced ;) ! And even so, follow your heart to buy the Vezel. I am just sharing my honest viewpoints from a Hybrid owner.

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

Well said and thought out bro!

[Snoopy7885]

 

Congrats and take it out for a spin ;-)

 

Now COE is out, how many more will be getting their ride, ha?

I will be able to collect it next tuesday.

[Zippu]

for hybrid cars, will the battery face the same problem as a laptop battery which after a few yrs (normal 2 yrs), the battery can't hold the charge for long?

eg. a brand new laptop battery can last 4 hours but after 2 yrs, only 1/2 hr.......

 

@Vega, i have been driving Honda Civic Hybrid for 8 years now, so far no problems with the battery.

AD told me that the lifespan could last up to 10 years. I agree with Niltrams that the battery technology should get better and cheaper over the years and thats the reason I'm changing to the Vezel Hybrid.

[Googoo]

Hi guys,

 

Would like to comment on my first week of Hybrid Z ownership.

 

There's many comments I saw on why should we purchase a Hybrid, due to the following concerns. I will address each of them.

 

1) The 5 infamous recalls of the 7-Speed dual-clutch gearbox in Japan

 

Yes, granted that the i-DCD system has been recalled 5 times. And FIXED. I know we all have some jitters about such recalls especially for a Japan made product, and what's more we are not covered by Kah Motors but individual PIs workshops which we might not trust.

 

Ok, lets be objective about this. We are talking about Made-in-Japan, there's extreme pride in the Japanese people to fix these issues and make sure they do not manifest again. My vehicle has been verified to be produced and updated with the latest software before shipping out to Singapore, so I have confidence it will not happen.

 

Even if touch wood the unfortunate happen, I don't believe the DSG impossible to fix. The Japanese will not allow that. In honesty, Honda used to have more serious problems with their first generation CVTs, which mostly could not last more than 200,000km without breaking down. These are the very CVTs running in all the auto GD1 Jazz/Fits, City and Airwave.

 

If you dig deeper into the recalls, it is generally a software bug that causes the gearbox not to operate. 5 iterations of software updates, I am quite sure these goblins are eradicated.

 

 

2) Concerns about the hybrid battery lifespan

 

You might have heard of horror stories of Civic Hybrids having to replace their full battery pack at Kah Motors and charging them 10 grand. However, we need to look at the very root of the issue; NiMh batteries. These batteries are old-tech. The next generation of batteries are Li-Ion/Po.

 

Honda states the new Lithium-Ion battery pack can possibly have a lifespan of 10 years, provided you take good care of it. Given our weather, I don't fully expect the battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give up within 5 years. In fact, the battery pack being Li-Ion means that there is a possibility of changing out individual retired cells in the battery array. This means greater serviceability and durability of the entire battery pack.

 

Moreover, as technology improves, we expect battery prices to drop within 5 years. I mean come on, look at your handphones! We were hard-pressed to get even 500 mAh from our old Nokia NiMh batts, but the same form factor can pack >2500 mAh in Li-Ion form today, are we are nonplussed to charge them with China charges and even sleep next to them.

 

Give technology a chance!

 

 

3) Overall cost increase VS the fuel savings

 

Yes, the Hybrid costs so much more than the standard Vezel and the average FC is probably only around 5-7 km/L better than the standard Vezel, which means that fuel savings are insignificant compared to the cost delta. By pure logic, it makes zero sense to purchase the Hybrid for savings.

 

Which, in Singapore, is exactly true!

 

We are not buying high to save money on petrol. We are buying technology, the chance to own a fine piece of Honda engineering and savouring how the whole package comes together. We are paying for the ability to utilize Japan's first homegrown DSG (Mitsu Evo X SST is built by Getrag Germany, not counted), and the option of driving like a pussy hyper-miler or a decent 150+ hp 7-speed quick shifting vehicle. FYI the 2.0L CR-V has around 155hp but lugs a 1.5 ton body around.

 

I enjoy the Hybrid every time I start it up, crawl out of my carpark on pure EV mode, and have great fun doing a max economy run, which sometimes I easily cross 27 km/l on ideal conditions. Or I can be a idiot and engage Sports mode and rage through traffic with the excellent handling characteristics of the Vezel (although its really harsh). Hey, it has i-VTEC and DOHC after all!

 

The premium I paid for the Hybrid can never be justified in terms of fuel savings. However, you also cannot quantify the ability to switch from Mr Jekyll to Mr Hyde at a flick of a button. Its fun! This is why I love Honda, and why I love my Vezel Hybrid.

 

So for those guys who really sitting on the fence between Hybrid and non-Hybrid, my invitation to test drive the Hybrid still stands, just PM me if you need just that little nudge to be convinced ;) ! And even so, follow your heart to buy the Vezel. I am just sharing my honest viewpoints from a Hybrid owner.

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

Bro, pm u Liao. Hope to be able to meet up over coffee.. Cheers!

[indulge]

 

 

Bro, can I trouble you to post a picture of the rear cam installation? Curious to know how the cable runs to the cam. Many thanks ahead.

Bro.. All the cables are hidden.

[Snoopy7885]

Does anyone know this car is run by chain or timing belt?

[LEEST]

I just upgraded from iroad aev to v7 today.

Wiring is simple and well hidden. Both front and back.

24hrs recording without extra power bank

Any bros interested, i can pass u my installer contact.

Thanks. Can i hv the contact and price info. Thanks!

[PeterParker]

Bros, i found that alot if not all of the PIs are not allowing test drive. I mean if you are a new company or the car is new I'll understand but the car has been out for 6 mths.

 

If a PI is in for the long haul (supporting Vezel buyers for 10 years), a test drive should be the very basic. If they can't, it feels like a hit and run kind of sale then how can you even trust them for 10 years? Even helpful bros like Nitram can offer a test drive. I have made up my mind to not buy from any PIs who don't offer a test drive. I cannot trust them if they don't commit to selling the car.

 

What are your views? Especially bros who bought without testing the car.