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poundpuppy

poundpuppy

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Agree that it's all calculated risk. Now i have the cash ready but i just can't find a PI i can trust! Interesting situation huh? I'm feel like giving up go whack the CRV at Kah motors.

 

I said earlier that I visited a PI who let me test drive a test car. An S series. But when I wanted to test a Hybrid at the corner, he said it's a new car waiting collection so cannot. That's fine so i left and went for lunch but when i past by the place again, he brought someone out using that exact "new" car. It's a maroon colour hybrid. To bros who just collected a maroon hybrid within past 2 weeks pm me I'll let you know which PI...

 

How to trust right?

 

Yikes, that's not very good unless it was the customer itself going to the audio installer perhaps.

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SY70

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Collected my baby vezel today. I booked and paid deposit on 15th Dec and got my baby today.

Need bros' advice on the auto engine cut off function.,A* Off. The air- con cut off when i depressed brake at traffic junction. How to attempt this and keep air con flowing especially on hot day. Thanks!

Collected my baby vezel today. I booked and paid deposit on 15th Dec and got my baby today.

Need bros' advice on the auto engine cut off function.,A* Off. The air- con cut off when i depressed brake at traffic junction. How to attempt this and keep air con flowing especially on hot day. Thanks!

Collected my baby vezel today. I booked and paid deposit on 15th Dec and got my baby today.

Need bros' advice on the auto engine cut off function.,A* Off. The air- con cut off when i depressed brake at traffic junction. How to attempt this and keep air con flowing especially on hot day. Thanks!

Collected my baby vezel today. I booked and paid deposit on 15th Dec and got my baby today.

Need bros' advice on the auto engine cut off function.,A* Off. The air- con cut off when i depressed brake at traffic junction. How to attempt this and keep air con flowing especially on hot day. Thanks!

The Aircon cut off ?? It shouldn't be working this way... The engine should cut off not the Aircon .

But the Aircon setting have affect on the auto off function like I mention in my earlier post.

I realize that when was trying to figure out why the auto engine off function only works in the morning and not afternoon ... Then I realize it's bcos in the morning, I set the Aircon to >19deg and in the afternoon, I set to 18degC (Lo)

The auto engine off function will be disabled if the Aircon is set to18degC. I've confirmed it by driving round using different Aircon setting temperature .

Not sure why honda does this... Probably at 18degC it needs more engine power ?

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indulge

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The Aircon cut off ?? It shouldn't be working this way... The engine should cut off not the Aircon .

But the Aircon setting have affect on the auto off function like I mention in my earlier post.

I realize that when was trying to figure out why the auto engine off function only works in the morning and not afternoon ... Then I realize it's bcos in the morning, I set the Aircon to >19deg and in the afternoon, I set to 18degC (Lo)

The auto engine off function will be disabled if the Aircon is set to18degC. I've confirmed it by driving round using different Aircon setting temperature .

Not sure why honda does this... Probably at 18degC it needs more engine power ?

Maybe honda doesnt wanna stress the air-compressor at that temp

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LEEST

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from your post, can tell you are very excited. :D

Pai Sei.. phone hang and i tot post did not success...

The Aircon cut off ?? It shouldn't be working this way... The engine should cut off not the Aircon .

 

But the Aircon setting have affect on the auto off function like I mention in my earlier post.

I realize that when was trying to figure out why the auto engine off function only works in the morning and not afternoon ... Then I realize it's bcos in the morning, I set the Aircon to >19deg and in the afternoon, I set to 18degC (Lo)

The auto engine off function will be disabled if the Aircon is set to18degC. I've confirmed it by driving round using different Aircon setting temperature .

Not sure why honda does this... Probably at 18degC it needs more engine power ?

 

I set my air con at 23c and it cuts off air almost everytime at traffic junction when i stopped my car. 18c is too low temp for me.

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TanWL1970

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Yikes, that's not very good unless it was the customer itself going to the audio installer perhaps.

It could be the owner of the vezel going for a spin with the SE.

 

I was in this situation before. While waiting for the car inspection my se asked me if I want to take a spin in the car park. 😊

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jaytan

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Thanks bro,

Great information now waiting patiently.

 

Yeah. Inspection takes minutes.

 

The queue takes 3-4 weeks. Quoted by the LTA Vitas officer.

 

 

 

Vitas inspection takes minutes, but the LTA Vitas department takes 3-4 weeks to "process" and "handle" the paperwork before they grant approval in principle, which then means your vehicle can now be sent to an inspection centre for the inspection to be carried out. After which, once the vehicle pass the inspection, they will take about a day to update the LTA system. And then finally, your car is ready for registration.

 

All of this happens only after your vehicle completes the VETL (Emissions Test) at Vicom. And then Vicom will submit the report to LTA Vitas. (This takes time as well -.-")

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pokadot

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Pai Sei.. phone hang and i tot post did not success...

 

 

I set my air con at 23c and it cuts off air almost everytime at traffic junction when i stopped my car. 18c is too low temp for me.

 

This should not happen. Some thing is not right. Better bring back to PI or authorised workshop to check.

Maybe honda doesnt wanna stress the air-compressor at that temp

 

 

Most likely Honda does not want to over stress the battery when the engine stop

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poundpuppy

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It could be the owner of the vezel going for a spin with the SE.

 

I was in this situation before. While waiting for the car inspection my se asked me if I want to take a spin in the car park. 😊

 

yeah same here, so if it was the owner then its perfectly fine! [thumbsup]

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pokadot

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I would like share my experience with the Stop-Start function.

 

If you ever wonder why this function does not kick in sometimes, the reason may be this.

 

If you tap and release the foot brake lightly a few times before coming to a stop, the car may take take this as an indication that you are in a car jam. As such, it will not activate the Stop-Start function after a full stop. I tried this a few times and validated my hypothesis.

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LEEST

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This should not happen. Some thing is not right. Better bring back to PI or authorised workshop to check.

 

Thanks, bro! I will monitor again tomorrow and see how. Thanks!

 

 

Most likely Honda does not want to over stress the battery when the engine stop

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Fuelsaver

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Hi guys,

 

Would like to comment on my first week of Hybrid Z ownership.

 

There's many comments I saw on why should we purchase a Hybrid, due to the following concerns. I will address each of them.

 

1) The 5 infamous recalls of the 7-Speed dual-clutch gearbox in Japan

 

Yes, granted that the i-DCD system has been recalled 5 times. And FIXED. I know we all have some jitters about such recalls especially for a Japan made product, and what's more we are not covered by Kah Motors but individual PIs workshops which we might not trust.

 

Ok, lets be objective about this. We are talking about Made-in-Japan, there's extreme pride in the Japanese people to fix these issues and make sure they do not manifest again. My vehicle has been verified to be produced and updated with the latest software before shipping out to Singapore, so I have confidence it will not happen.

 

Even if touch wood the unfortunate happen, I don't believe the DSG impossible to fix. The Japanese will not allow that. In honesty, Honda used to have more serious problems with their first generation CVTs, which mostly could not last more than 200,000km without breaking down. These are the very CVTs running in all the auto GD1 Jazz/Fits, City and Airwave.

 

If you dig deeper into the recalls, it is generally a software bug that causes the gearbox not to operate. 5 iterations of software updates, I am quite sure these goblins are eradicated.

 

 

2) Concerns about the hybrid battery lifespan

 

You might have heard of horror stories of Civic Hybrids having to replace their full battery pack at Kah Motors and charging them 10 grand. However, we need to look at the very root of the issue; NiMh batteries. These batteries are old-tech. The next generation of batteries are Li-Ion/Po.

 

Honda states the new Lithium-Ion battery pack can possibly have a lifespan of 10 years, provided you take good care of it. Given our weather, I don't fully expect the battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give up within 5 years. In fact, the battery pack being Li-Ion means that there is a possibility of changing out individual retired cells in the battery array. This means greater serviceability and durability of the entire battery pack.

 

Moreover, as technology improves, we expect battery prices to drop within 5 years. I mean come on, look at your handphones! We were hard-pressed to get even 500 mAh from our old Nokia NiMh batts, but the same form factor can pack >2500 mAh in Li-Ion form today, are we are nonplussed to charge them with China charges and even sleep next to them.

 

Give technology a chance!

 

 

3) Overall cost increase VS the fuel savings

 

Yes, the Hybrid costs so much more than the standard Vezel and the average FC is probably only around 5-7 km/L better than the standard Vezel, which means that fuel savings are insignificant compared to the cost delta. By pure logic, it makes zero sense to purchase the Hybrid for savings.

 

Which, in Singapore, is exactly true!

 

We are not buying high to save money on petrol. We are buying technology, the chance to own a fine piece of Honda engineering and savouring how the whole package comes together. We are paying for the ability to utilize Japan's first homegrown DSG (Mitsu Evo X SST is built by Getrag Germany, not counted), and the option of driving like a pussy hyper-miler or a decent 150+ hp 7-speed quick shifting vehicle. FYI the 2.0L CR-V has around 155hp but lugs a 1.5 ton body around.

 

I enjoy the Hybrid every time I start it up, crawl out of my carpark on pure EV mode, and have great fun doing a max economy run, which sometimes I easily cross 27 km/l on ideal conditions. Or I can be a idiot and engage Sports mode and rage through traffic with the excellent handling characteristics of the Vezel (although its really harsh). Hey, it has i-VTEC and DOHC after all!

 

The premium I paid for the Hybrid can never be justified in terms of fuel savings. However, you also cannot quantify the ability to switch from Mr Jekyll to Mr Hyde at a flick of a button. Its fun! This is why I love Honda, and why I love my Vezel Hybrid.

 

So for those guys who really sitting on the fence between Hybrid and non-Hybrid, my invitation to test drive the Hybrid still stands, just PM me if you need just that little nudge to be convinced ;) ! And even so, follow your heart to buy the Vezel. I am just sharing my honest viewpoints from a Hybrid owner.

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

solid bro, u can b journalist / commentator / emcee / dj w ur level of england.

 

1) the honda hybrid 1.5ivtec dohc w dsg combo i saw in youtube looks not so difficult to service; vw exaggerated in terms of technology n price both parts n labor.

 

2) i don't charge my fone w cina chargers n also don't sleep beside fone whether chargin anot.

 

3) will pm u soon, appreciate ur generous offer.

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Dino-Lee

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Just to confirm, the Auto Engine Cut Off function can not be deactivate? Am i right?TIA

 

Hi sis, can be deactivate. there is a button located above the auto shift stick with "A". Press that and will deactivate it. It will switch back on again everytime u start your car.

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