razor54 3rd Gear April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 EJ25 turbo has no issue with 95RON. FB20DIT need 98RON? Seriously, u guys think u really need so much power? I advise that you drive on S# for a whole day or week before you decide if that is really what you want. It may be too much to handle for normal situations with this stock setup of not so great tyres and stock brakes. I don't think I'll ever use the full boost available on the XT...at least not in Singapore. However, it's not a case of if I really need so much power. The power is there whether I need it or not. And I won't probably enjoy driving a whole day in S# (FC going to crash if I do that), the high rpm maintained in S# is best reserved for short burst of fun when I feel like it. S mode is more than enough for me to enjoy that creamy linear surge (FB-series) whenever I need to overtake another car. But ya, I wouldn't risk going full bore like a bat out of hell on the XT with those stock tyres and brakes. It'll be pushing it a little too far for me...especially this being more of a family car but with a little bit of extra fun available under that right foot anytime. :) ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarion 4th Gear April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 I don't think I'll ever use the full boost available on the XT...at least not in Singapore. However, it's not a case of if I really need so much power. The power is there whether I need it or not. And I won't probably enjoy driving a whole day in S# (FC going to crash if I do that), the high rpm maintained in S# is best reserved for short burst of fun when I feel like it. S mode is more than enough for me to enjoy that creamy linear surge (FB-series) whenever I need to overtake another car. But ya, I wouldn't risk going full bore like a bat out of hell on the XT with those stock tyres and brakes. It'll be pushing it a little too far for me...especially this being more of a family car but with a little bit of extra fun available under that right foot anytime. :) that's exactly what I mean. S# is fun, yeah, but one really needs to know the car well to brake well in time to handle that amount of acceleration, especially when there are so many idiot drivers and riders in Singapore that can easily swing into your lane without signaling/checking. I hope it doesn't come across as offensive, but for drivers who had never handled such power before in a car, you really need to be careful of it and know what to expect, what's the emergency braking distance, feel and handling, etc... to me, I have always think of the 3 modes in my car as I - Idiotic (too slow response for my car, not the SJG), S - Stupid (fast enough to make you do stupid things) and S# - Super Stupid (gets one into trouble really quickly) haha... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor54 3rd Gear April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 (edited) that's exactly what I mean. S# is fun, yeah, but one really needs to know the car well to brake well in time to handle that amount of acceleration, especially when there are so many idiot drivers and riders in Singapore that can easily swing into your lane without signaling/checking. I hope it doesn't come across as offensive, but for drivers who had never handled such power before in a car, you really need to be careful of it and know what to expect, what's the emergency braking distance, feel and handling, etc... to me, I have always think of the 3 modes in my car as I - Idiotic (too slow response for my car, not the SJG), S - Stupid (fast enough to make you do stupid things) and S# - Super Stupid (gets one into trouble really quickly) haha... So far I have not found any situation that warrants S# yet...I'm not really into racing with others on our roads. There's enough of such idiots on the roads and they sure don't need another one to add to that tally...hahaha. Regardless of what car, turbo or NA, every owner needs to know their new car's capabilities and limits. Especially new drivers need extra care in that area and don't go blasting down the road thinking he is Vettel or Hamilton. Personally, I've being riding as well for more than 20 years. Being able to accelerate in my bike from 0-100km/hr in under 3 seconds is easily achievable on any day under the right conditions. When I ride, I put in double the effort to stay alive to go home to my family everytime I had that machine between my legs. Responsibility with any machines need to be learned over time, hopefully not by the hard way on the roads. I've been in accidents with my bikes and cars over the years (mostly because of some crazy or inattentive drivers). And no prizes for guessing which one I walk away with lesser damage to my body. We just have to respect technology and drive/ride responsibly. Our loved ones depend on that. I'm enjoying the new family car right now. The kids are having a blast in the car with the big moonroof and wife feels safe in the Forester. That's all that matters to me personally. As for the little extra which I paid for in the XT, I'm enjoying the power available as compared to my old car before this. Drive safe and enjoy the this awesome car, Forester owners! Edited April 12, 2016 by razor54 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocus Turbocharged April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 From sgcarmart, XT comp ratio is 10.6, just 0.1 higher than NA. Is 10.6 considered high? I have always thought that the Mazda skyactiv engine comp ratio at 14.0 is considered high. But i do agree that follow the car manual to pump the correct fuel type is the best bet. Compression Ratio of 10.6 in a Turbocharged engine is considered relatively high since the typical compression ratio for Force induced engine is typical below 10, about 9+. Compression Ratio of 10.6 for a NA car is considered within normal range. Anything above 11 is considered high for NA engine. For Mazda's skyactive engine, having a compression ratio of 14 IMHO is FREAKING high!! I dunno how they managed that without pinging. I once ask the Mazda SE before and he replied with a smoky answer of how the ECU managed it. Hi guys, this is my first Subaru, collecting my car next week! Is it true that for AWD vehicles, if anything happen to one tire need to change all to match? If one tire punctured, or bald, all must change together? The AWD for current gen Subarus is not as sensitive as before, the front 2 or rear 2 is good enough. The key thing is to change ASAP. EJ25 turbo has no issue with 95RON. FB20DIT need 98RON? Seriously, u guys think u really need so much power? I advise that you drive on S# for a whole day or week before you decide if that is really what you want. It may be too much to handle for normal situations with this stock setup of not so great tyres and stock brakes. FA20DIT can settle for 95RON. 98RON for optimum power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayaloti 2nd Gear April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 Wow, too much to digest. I always find scooby drivers do knows a lot about their car. Thank you all for all the info and facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTong Turbocharged April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 Wow, too much to digest. I always find scooby drivers do knows a lot about their car. Thank you all for all the info and facts. That's where MI got it right. Hire "SO Tongs"as SEs.. And all us smarts n techies buy from them...hmmm who is the smarter one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicclaw 6th Gear April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 IR rejection is too low lah. I had opt out the solar film and prepare to do outside. Not all SEs follow instructions. Quite a few had opted out only to be told by SE that due to high volumes of cars, MI already pasted solar film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTong Turbocharged April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 Not all SEs follow instructions. Quite a few had opted out only to be told by SE that due to high volumes of cars, MI already pasted solar film.Chances of that happening seems very high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wattokkingu 3rd Gear April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 @Pocus, good info. System does not allow me to up u points! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg2000 4th Gear April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 (edited) Chances of that happening seems very high. Happened to me. Make sure it is written down somewhere in the agreement that you wanted to Opt out. I think the final agreement has a check box somewhere for this. Otherwise, some outside solar film installers may charge you extra to remove existing solar film before installing theirs. My outside installer was ok to not bother to charge for this extra work. If they did and your MI agreement showed Opt out, at least you can claim the removal charge from MI or the SE. For my external installer, when I was there, the intaller boss (or one of the bosses) was also good in that he "interfered" with his staff's work to ask them to gave extras to me for free (e.g. add on second layer to top of the advertised film to the back of the car since the car's original window came with almost no tint and so there was a large buffer before reaching the LTA tinting limit even after doing the advertised film). However, all these added to the work of the team and they had to rush through the extra work in the normal appointment slot originally booked and ended up, job wasn't so good. Had to go back a second round for them to fix and redo some of the work but all the staff had no problem with that - no sour face, all just work to give a perfect job the second time round. Edited April 13, 2016 by jg2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 Not all SEs follow instructions. Quite a few had opted out only to be told by SE that due to high volumes of cars, MI already pasted solar film. Car belong to which owner are already assigned. I actually sit down with my SE, go through lists of option. On his laptop, he will select and un-select items that want or don't want. Then submit. He told me the workers preparing car for delivery will base on that lists. Told to your SE and check. Mileage 1000th now. FC at 10.2km/L 50/50 highway/city. For a high power performance SUV, this is consider very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTong Turbocharged April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 Car belong to which owner are already assigned. I actually sit down with my SE, go through lists of option. On his laptop, he will select and un-select items that want or don't want. Then submit. He told me the workers preparing car for delivery will base on that lists. Told to your SE and check. For a high power performance SUV, this is consider very good. The laptop got option to replace engine from 2.5 to 2.0DIT? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 Saw many XTs drive pretty hiong nowadays - power definitely does corrupt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayoflight 5th Gear April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 (edited) I read this review and LOL. turbo will likely be ineffective on this car for city driving and POOR ROAD ON A CLEARER ROAD. It is altogether a different car from the 2L, sprightly and powerful. Above he said "The drive on the Forester 2litre was a real disappointment". Edited April 13, 2016 by Rayoflight 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean6576 4th Gear April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 I read this review and LOL. turbo will likely be ineffective on this car for city driving and POOR ROAD ON A CLEARER ROAD. It is altogether a different car from the 2L, sprightly and powerful. Above he said "The drive on the Forester 2litre was a real disappointment". Actually I kinda like this review, it goes to the extend of justifying different folks different strokes. Reviewer said turbo ineffective on poor road does send me wondering which car on earth will perform well on poor road, let alone turbo car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 (edited) The laptop got option to replace engine from 2.5 to 2.0DIT? You can get it by change your OB to XT Edited April 13, 2016 by Tohto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 (edited) I read this review and LOL. turbo will likely be ineffective on this car for city driving and POOR ROAD ON A CLEARER ROAD. It is altogether a different car from the 2L, sprightly and powerful. Above he said "The drive on the Forester 2litre was a real disappointment". I suspect this is post by a competitor brand SE. Information also not correct. Max torque of 350Nm start at 2400rpm and remain flat till higher rpm of around 4k. And base of the XT torque chart, at 2k rpm is about 300Nm, 1.5krpm is about 250Nm. This number already higher than all others 2.0L NA SUV max torque. Where he got the 3200rpm infor from? Edited April 13, 2016 by Tohto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayoflight 5th Gear April 13, 2016 Share April 13, 2016 That gel guy use too much ky on his head liao hahaha ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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