2015 Forester 2.0

[Tohto]

Test drove the OB before FXT as OB's interior look more premium. No way back after the test drive. No wonder SE said try OB before FXT.

So you did not test drive the FXT.

[redstuff]

It's a fact that fuel is not cheap in singapore. but if you really worry about the difference of 3-4km/L in FC, you may be stretching your finance to drive a car in the first place.

 

Would just like to share this for general info, as I used the difference in FC to decide between which cars to get. Of course there are also other non-$ factors (e.g. SUV vs hatchback vs sedan), but let's ignore that for now.

 

1) Assuming travel around 1,400 km per month.

2) Difference in 4 km/liter FC will translate into additional ~70 liters of fuel for the less fuel efficient car.

     [E.g. 7 km/liter FC car will need 200 litres/mth but 11 km/liter FC car will need ~128 litres/mth]

3) Assume $1.6/liter 95RON petrol, after all the credit card discount, etc.

4) This translates to about difference in ~$110 per month or around $1,300~$1,400 per year.

5) Assuming 10-year ownership, this translate into difference in running cost of $13,000~$14,000.

[C90]

Thanks Bro. Actually Civic is my last "brand new" car. Traded in my current "2nd hand Stream" for scrap + std 2k discount. Current ride expires 21 Nov.

 

Actually I wun mind waiting till end of Nov when my COE expires. A bit shocked to get the COE at the 1st try. Vezel was my first choice last year, but the small boot and low power put me off. Not to mention, the amt of them on the roads akin national car.

Very well executed... good timing....

 

Same tots about vezel.... but hybrid would be my choice if i were to choose vezel thou...

[Keithlbc]

Nope coz I didn't even go to the stage of nego coz i thought trading in the car at scrape value wasn't quite attractive... 18 months left for my car... and running cost will ^ hmm....

 

At 18mths left, I wld not have considered too. Mine is due next mth, hence the 2k additional trade-in is gd as my scrap value of current ride is 10k. 

Cannot like that compare also.. US cities are interlinked..meaning, someone can travel across states for work or whatever. (same as malaysia) If you charge them SGD$2.28 for 1 litre of petrol..  sure rock the government.

 

We are all stucked in this small densely populated country so just have to suck it up.

 

pple in hk dont fare any better..

 

petrol more ex than us

parking need to buy lot.. parking gan pua expensive

peak hr jam also gao gao

 

what do u mean? OB better than FXT?

 

haha, thats MI pricing.. the more pple qiong to buy, the more ex it becomes. They know they have their aces when demand more than supply especially when no ready stocks.

IMO, OB interior more classy but FXT overall feels better. 

So you did not test drive the FXT.

Sorry for confusion. Tested both the OB & FXT. SE warned to try OB first then FXT as the power diff is too far. Bot the FXT as performance is v Volvo SUV-like IMO. 

 

Edited October 21, 2016 by Keithlbc

[Tohto]

Would just like to share this for general info, as I used the difference in FC to decide between which cars to get. Of course there are also other non-$ factors (e.g. SUV vs hatchback vs sedan), but let's ignore that for now.

 

1) Assuming travel around 1,400 km per month.

2) Difference in 4 km/liter FC will translate into additional ~70 liters of fuel for the less fuel efficient car.

[E.g. 7 km/liter FC car will need 200 litres/mth but 11 km/liter FC car will need ~128 litres/mth]

3) Assume $1.6/liter 95RON petrol, after all the credit card discount, etc.

4) This translates to about difference in ~$110 per month or around $1,300~$1,400 per year.

5) Assuming 10-year ownership, this translate into difference in running cost of $13,000~$14,000.

If want to calculate until like this, better to go BMW.

Forester will not be suitable for you.

 

 

Sorry for confusion. Tested both the OB & FXT. SE warned to try OB first then FXT as the power diff is too far. Bot the FXT as performance is v Volvo SUV-like IMO.

As many had already mentioned, if the OB are using the FXT DIT engine, many will had bought it due to better interior.

[therock]

Would just like to share this for general info, as I used the difference in FC to decide between which cars to get. Of course there are also other non-$ factors (e.g. SUV vs hatchback vs sedan), but let's ignore that for now.

 

1) Assuming travel around 1,400 km per month.

2) Difference in 4 km/liter FC will translate into additional ~70 liters of fuel for the less fuel efficient car.

     [E.g. 7 km/liter FC car will need 200 litres/mth but 11 km/liter FC car will need ~128 litres/mth]

3) Assume $1.6/liter 95RON petrol, after all the credit card discount, etc.

4) This translates to about difference in ~$110 per month or around $1,300~$1,400 per year.

5) Assuming 10-year ownership, this translate into difference in running cost of $13,000~$14,000.

Thanks for calculating that..

So which car did you get in the end?

The Vezel has much better FC for example, but the experience is quite different.

The BMW 116d is also comparable in price at 123k and does better mileage too if you are looking for alternative.

Or Get the Honda Jazz for very miserly FC.

Taking Uber / Grab for 10 years gives even better value. 

But none of them will have the same motoring experience, so YMMV.. 

[Nlatio]

Bro are these the nett prices?

What did you get in the end?

So did you put a bid in?

 

 

haaaa Bro.... no lar, after much thought and discussion with wife, decided not to go ahead... some more with their jack up prices.... decided to go for a family MPV... heee.... cannot own self song... must think of kid and children...  ... really like the handling of the forester... well... nevermind.... family first

[DioPian]

haaaa Bro.... no lar, after much thought and discussion with wife, decided not to go ahead... some more with their jack up prices.... decided to go for a family MPV... heee.... cannot own self song... must think of kid and children... ... really like the handling of the forester... well... nevermind.... family first

Forester is a safe vehicle

[Tohto]

haaaa Bro.... no lar, after much thought and discussion with wife, decided not to go ahead... some more with their jack up prices.... decided to go for a family MPV... heee.... cannot own self song... must think of kid and children... ... really like the handling of the forester... well... nevermind.... family first

Wish?

[BenTong]

Can we have more interesting discussion instead of FC? For goodness sake.. this is a Subaru forum.I am going to dislike anyone who continue on this topic.. -and anyway just for the record.. the FC of This gen of subarus fxt,Fna,legacy and OB.. 11-12km/ litre. Get it?!!

Edited October 21, 2016 by BenTong

[therock]

haaaa Bro.... no lar, after much thought and discussion with wife, decided not to go ahead... some more with their jack up prices.... decided to go for a family MPV... heee.... cannot own self song... must think of kid and children... ... really like the handling of the forester... well... nevermind.... family first

Actually bro the forester does well as a MPV too unless you are sure you need seven seats.

No other car gives you the same bhp per dollar in its class.

So did you buy the wish?

Or maybe the BMW 216 GT?

[DioPian]

How about Subaru bros here share their off-road adventures....

[coldastone17]

Actually bro the forester does well as a MPV too unless you are sure you need seven seats.

No other car gives you the same bhp per dollar in its class.

So did you buy the wish?

Or maybe the BMW 216 GT?

actually heard the Bmw 216 GT quite shiok..mmm

[therock]

actually heard the Bmw 216 GT quite shiok..mmm

Yes I tried it. BMW does live up to its name as the ultimate driving machine. Not the best in looks but the practicality, space and function are good. Good feel plastics too. Toyota six speed gearbox is smooth. Diesel engine has good pull although you need to step a bit to bring up the power.

But it's about 40-30k more..

[wheelogist]

Can we have more interesting discussion instead of FC? For goodness sake.. this is a Subaru forum.I am going to dislike anyone who continue on this topic.. -and anyway just for the record.. the FC of This gen of subarus fxt,Fna,legacy and OB.. 11-12km/ litre. Get it?!!

Fully agreed with you BT. I don't understand why some keep comparing subaru's FC with even 2wd makes. This forum is discussion on subaru performance not FC. Those who are very particular about FC, go for a hybrid or an electric car.

[Wondertree]

Would just like to share this for general info, as I used the difference in FC to decide between which cars to get. Of course there are also other non-$ factors (e.g. SUV vs hatchback vs sedan), but let's ignore that for now.

 

1) Assuming travel around 1,400 km per month.

2) Difference in 4 km/liter FC will translate into additional ~70 liters of fuel for the less fuel efficient car.

     [E.g. 7 km/liter FC car will need 200 litres/mth but 11 km/liter FC car will need ~128 litres/mth]

3) Assume $1.6/liter 95RON petrol, after all the credit card discount, etc.

4) This translates to about difference in ~$110 per month or around $1,300~$1,400 per year.

5) Assuming 10-year ownership, this translate into difference in running cost of $13,000~$14,000.

Again, if someone can't accept being $13,000 poorer over 10 years for driving a car you like, bar fuel economy, he's definitely better off not buying it which could set him back in the region of $250,000 over the lifespan given the usage you have projected.

 

Ceteris paribus, who doesn't like a frugal car? But again does that ever happen among cars?

Edited October 21, 2016 by Wondertree

[BenTong]

Would just like to share this for general info, as I used the difference in FC to decide between which cars to get. Of course there are also other non-$ factors (e.g. SUV vs hatchback vs sedan), but let's ignore that for now.

 

1) Assuming travel around 1,400 km per month.

2) Difference in 4 km/liter FC will translate into additional ~70 liters of fuel for the less fuel efficient car.

[E.g. 7 km/liter FC car will need 200 litres/mth but 11 km/liter FC car will need ~128 litres/mth]

3) Assume $1.6/liter 95RON petrol, after all the credit card discount, etc.

4) This translates to about difference in ~$110 per month or around $1,300~$1,400 per year.

5) Assuming 10-year ownership, this translate into difference in running cost of $13,000~$14,000.

Think you better save.. don't buy a new car. Rainy days are coming..

[Wondertree]

Putting things into perspective, the cost difference in FC is just 5%. That's $10 vs $9.5 when you are buying a pack of rice. $500 vs $475 when buying a handphone. A factor to consider? Maybe. An important factor? Not even close.

Edited October 21, 2016 by Wondertree