Damorque Neutral Newbie March 16, 2018 Share March 16, 2018 http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=722498&DL=1000 Selling my 1 year plus old Astra 1.4T HB, as I'm relocating for my work. Any bro or sis interested please feel free to contact me, condition is good with no problems. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo2000 4th Gear March 16, 2018 Share March 16, 2018 http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=722498&DL=1000 Selling my 1 year plus old Astra 1.4T HB, as I'm relocating for my work. Any bro or sis interested please feel free to contact me, condition is good with no problems. Wah! Good deal. Don't buy, regret ah! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
revenge88 1st Gear March 19, 2018 Share March 19, 2018 (edited) Hi, my current car COE is due soon and I'm looking at the 1.0 Astra Sportstourer as a potential replacement. How is the reliability and drive? Opel doesn't seem to be very popular compared to other German makes, so I'm not sure what to expect in terms of repairs, spares and servicing (also never owned a non Japanese car before, so somewhat nervous to be making a jump). The general consensus from those around me is to stick with Japanese or Korean as they are a lot more reliable and cheaper to maintain but the European cars generally look better to me. Also looking at the Peugeot 308SW and Ford Focus Wagon if anyone's keen to share anything about those two. Edited March 19, 2018 by revenge88 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGCMHello 4th Gear March 19, 2018 Share March 19, 2018 Opel bought over by Peugeot. Next time spare parts come from GM or PSA??? Opel positioning all along is “German Engineering”. Now? “French Engineering”? It has lost its identity and positioning. There is no meaning to buy Opel now, positioning strategy completely lost. PSA needs to rebuilt the Opel brand, uphill task. Poor branding positioning means poor selling price, poor resale value. Already, Opel SUV using Peugeot award winning 1.2L pure tech engine. And look at Chevrolet new model interior, mostly copy-paste from Opel. Opel is in identity crisis now. Will dealership be transferred from AG to Vantage? That depends of PSA Group HQ. Reasons to buy Opel, cheap and safe. But FC and servicing costs......hmmm. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie70 1st Gear March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 Opel bought over by Peugeot. Next time spare parts come from GM or PSA??? Opel positioning all along is âGerman Engineeringâ. Now? âFrench Engineeringâ? It has lost its identity and positioning. There is no meaning to buy Opel now, positioning strategy completely lost. PSA needs to rebuilt the Opel brand, uphill task. Poor branding positioning means poor selling price, poor resale value. Already, Opel SUV using Peugeot award winning 1.2L pure tech engine. And look at Chevrolet new model interior, mostly copy-paste from Opel. Opel is in identity crisis now. Will dealership be transferred from AG to Vantage? That depends of PSA Group HQ. Reasons to buy Opel, cheap and safe. But FC and servicing costs......hmmm. Hmm, have you owned an Opel in Singapore before you talk? Hi, my current car COE is due soon and I'm looking at the 1.0 Astra Sportstourer as a potential replacement. How is the reliability and drive? Opel doesn't seem to be very popular compared to other German makes, so I'm not sure what to expect in terms of repairs, spares and servicing (also never owned a non Japanese car before, so somewhat nervous to be making a jump). The general consensus from those around me is to stick with Japanese or Korean as they are a lot more reliable and cheaper to maintain but the European cars generally look better to me. Also looking at the Peugeot 308SW and Ford Focus Wagon if anyone's keen to share anything about those two. I was in the situation as you, comparing and test drive Astra hatch, 308SW and focus wagon. In the end, I chose the Astra hatch 1.0T. Then again, my decision may be biased, as this is my 5 Opel car in Singapore. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewLee72 6th Gear March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 Astra hatch 1.0... Price is lowest among the 3 models u mentioned 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
revenge88 1st Gear March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 Hmm, have you owned an Opel in Singapore before you talk? I was in the situation as you, comparing and test drive Astra hatch, 308SW and focus wagon. In the end, I chose the Astra hatch 1.0T. Then again, my decision may be biased, as this is my 5 Opel car in Singapore. Thanks for replying. Brand loyalty aside, what made you pick the Astra? I test drove all 3. Price-wise, the Astra 1.0 is clearly the winner. Exterior looks good but I feel the interior dashboard area is somewhat cluttered and cramped looking. Interior space-wise is alright for both front and back seats though. Drive wasn't anything out of the ordinary, but the gearbox at low speeds (gear 1 & 2) is very annoying. Did some light searching and can't seem to find any known issues with the 1.0 version. The AD however told me that the model is being phased out in favour of crossover models and they won't be bringing anymore in, not sure if it's just a sales tactic or fact. The Peugeot is the most expensive but looks the best inside and outside. Interior dashboard area looks very sleek and futuristic and the huge moonroof (which the other models don't have) really helps the ambiance. It's the lightest and most powerful of all 3 with great pickup. The high price and several horror stories about Peugeot's reliability are holding me back. The Focus is priced in between the two others. Exterior and interior both look good but the interior space is inferior to the other two. With the driver's sit adjusted to a comfortable position, I found the back seat quite tight. I have to say that the Focus had the best drive amongst the three though; it felt great cornering and zipping around. My current car is a Sylphy, so the Focus somewhat feels like a downgrade with the cramped interior, and that's holding me back from getting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocker 1st Gear March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 Reasons to buy Opel, cheap and safe. But FC and servicing costs......hmmm. Anything wrong with the FC and servicing costs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 Elantra now oso below 100k wat elantra at the tail end of the life cycle. I suspect the 2019 model will be launch soon as the KIA K3 replacement is coming in soon. The elantra while good has its down side which is lacking in power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie70 1st Gear March 20, 2018 Share March 20, 2018 (edited) Thanks for replying. Brand loyalty aside, what made you pick the Astra? I test drove all 3. Price-wise, the Astra 1.0 is clearly the winner. Exterior looks good but I feel the interior dashboard area is somewhat cluttered and cramped looking. Interior space-wise is alright for both front and back seats though. Drive wasn't anything out of the ordinary, but the gearbox at low speeds (gear 1 & 2) is very annoying. Did some light searching and can't seem to find any known issues with the 1.0 version. The AD however told me that the model is being phased out in favour of crossover models and they won't be bringing anymore in, not sure if it's just a sales tactic or fact. The Peugeot is the most expensive but looks the best inside and outside. Interior dashboard area looks very sleek and futuristic and the huge moonroof (which the other models don't have) really helps the ambiance. It's the lightest and most powerful of all 3 with great pickup. The high price and several horror stories about Peugeot's reliability are holding me back. The Focus is priced in between the two others. Exterior and interior both look good but the interior space is inferior to the other two. With the driver's sit adjusted to a comfortable position, I found the back seat quite tight. I have to say that the Focus had the best drive amongst the three though; it felt great cornering and zipping around. My current car is a Sylphy, so the Focus somewhat feels like a downgrade with the cramped interior, and that's holding me back from getting it. My 1st Opel was Astra G 1.4 manual, followed by Corsa C (with 1st-gen Easytronic MTA), then Astra G manual again, Vectra C 1.8 (with 2nd-gen Easytronic), and now Astra K 1.0T (with Easytronic 3.0). One could say that it’s the “lowest” German brand with the least recognition locally (and cheapest). I got hooked to it when I test drove the Astra G back in 1999. Its drive (despite being the “lowest” German one) is still better than many others. I thought the current Astra K 1.0T would not be able to make it since I was driving a 1.8 Vectra but I test drove it, the drive surprised me. It’s probably the best bang for the money in the same category of hatchbacks. I have 2 friends driving the A-class, but I wouldn’t pay $130k+ for it. The OMV is only about $3k difference. It’d be unwise if the current dealer were to stop sell the current Astra K. The crossover models do not necessarily suit everyone or perform as well as hatch/tourer/sedan. I test drove the Crossland but I didn’t like it. But the new Grandland ride quality was good when I test drove it last Sunday. 308SW felt heavy and less responsive when I test drove it, although it had much higher torque according to specifications. And it was more expensive as compared. I was very close to signing for it but pulled back. Focus was slower pickup and noisy when I test drove it (and it now has $10k VES surcharge). For similar price, both didn’t have as much factory-fitted specs and features as the Astra K. As I mentioned in my earlier post, my decision (and views) may be biased, since I’m not a first-time Opel owner. Edited March 20, 2018 by Newbie70 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo2000 4th Gear March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 The Astra was AG's best seller for 2017. It was also 2016 European car of the year. The 1.0 T is very good value for money. Even one owner drove his Astra 1.0 Sports Tourer up to Genting more than once! I chose the 1.4T as I wanted more "ooomph" as i travel up north 4-5 times a year. Fuel consumption is 6.7-7.5 litres per 100 km. Read my earlier posts in this thread. In early 2017, price was $108K for 1.4HB with 5 years warranty plus 5 years servicing package given by AG. I drove up north 4 times last year and I will be making a trip to Selangor after easter (April). Although the Astra does not have electric seats, there is an electric LUMBAR support by pressing a round button to adjust on the driver's seat when the engine is on. Good for those who have a bad back like me. Even the SE may have overlooked this. However, it will be difficult to sell the 1.4 Astra this year due to the VES surcharge. Hence, that is why I think AG will try to "push" for their newer SUVs. Please note that this is MY OPINION only. Some may disagree with me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrenceljy 1st Gear March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 Nice reply above... GM as an American company owned Opel for long time, it didn’t market opel as American made why would Peugeot acquire Opel and make Opel lose it’s heritage of German Engineering? Continental cars having bad reputation on the reliability has always been in the market as the cars are more design towards cold weather than to our tropical hot and humid weather. Also that Japanese and Korean are putting in lesser electronic gadgets, make the car sounds more reliable as electronic gadgets need colder temperature to operate properly. Above are my views, maybe they are wrong. For sure I am now a happy owner of Astra K ST 1.0 model for 3 months. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yishun 1st Gear March 21, 2018 Share March 21, 2018 Thanks for replying. Brand loyalty aside, what made you pick the Astra? I test drove all 3. Price-wise, the Astra 1.0 is clearly the winner. Exterior looks good but I feel the interior dashboard area is somewhat cluttered and cramped looking. Interior space-wise is alright for both front and back seats though. Drive wasn't anything out of the ordinary, but the gearbox at low speeds (gear 1 & 2) is very annoying. Did some light searching and can't seem to find any known issues with the 1.0 version. The AD however told me that the model is being phased out in favour of crossover models and they won't be bringing anymore in, not sure if it's just a sales tactic or fact. The Peugeot is the most expensive but looks the best inside and outside. Interior dashboard area looks very sleek and futuristic and the huge moonroof (which the other models don't have) really helps the ambiance. It's the lightest and most powerful of all 3 with great pickup. The high price and several horror stories about Peugeot's reliability are holding me back. The Focus is priced in between the two others. Exterior and interior both look good but the interior space is inferior to the other two. With the driver's sit adjusted to a comfortable position, I found the back seat quite tight. I have to say that the Focus had the best drive amongst the three though; it felt great cornering and zipping around. My current car is a Sylphy, so the Focus somewhat feels like a downgrade with the cramped interior, and that's holding me back from getting it. I also tested Astra 1.0 ST and 308SW. The value of Astra is very good, the drive is also quite good. Gear shift 1-2-3 is not as smooth as torque converter AT, but can get used to it. Problem is the clutch control. If you need to up slope on car park ramp at low speed, if the car too slow, it may jerk violently (like MT car going to stall), even when there is no gear change. The same for reverse gear, if you reverse slowly into a parking lot and the ground is not flat, it jerks if it goes against the slope, but you step on accelerator too much, it surge backward. I think this is the way the single-clutch MTA works. Maybe you should test it, see if you can get used to it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrantSyn 1st Gear April 3, 2018 Share April 3, 2018 (edited) Thanks for replying. Brand loyalty aside, what made you pick the Astra? I test drove all 3. Price-wise, the Astra 1.0 is clearly the winner. Exterior looks good but I feel the interior dashboard area is somewhat cluttered and cramped looking. Interior space-wise is alright for both front and back seats though. Drive wasn't anything out of the ordinary, but the gearbox at low speeds (gear 1 & 2) is very annoying. Did some light searching and can't seem to find any known issues with the 1.0 version. The AD however told me that the model is being phased out in favour of crossover models and they won't be bringing anymore in, not sure if it's just a sales tactic or fact. The Peugeot is the most expensive but looks the best inside and outside. Interior dashboard area looks very sleek and futuristic and the huge moonroof (which the other models don't have) really helps the ambiance. It's the lightest and most powerful of all 3 with great pickup. The high price and several horror stories about Peugeot's reliability are holding me back. The Focus is priced in between the two others. Exterior and interior both look good but the interior space is inferior to the other two. With the driver's sit adjusted to a comfortable position, I found the back seat quite tight. I have to say that the Focus had the best drive amongst the three though; it felt great cornering and zipping around. My current car is a Sylphy, so the Focus somewhat feels like a downgrade with the cramped interior, and that's holding me back from getting it. Coming from someone who has both the astra st and the 308 SW, I would say both are on par but, they both excel in different areas. Space wise for passengers, the Astra wins by a mile compared to the 308 SW. The 308 is pretty cramped with legroom but the moonroof makes up for it. Do take note though, on hot days the 308’s cabin is much noticeably hotter than the Astra’s. Drive wise, the 308 trumps the astra. The 308’s drivetrain is more refined and smoother than the Astra 1.0 but the Astra handles better than the Pug as it has a firmer suspension. Both are electrically assisted power steering units so don’t expect much but the astra’s steering is more weighted at lower speeds. So far both the Astra and the 308 reliability has not been an issue. However the 308 had it’s rear suspension replaced FOC under warranty because of some manufacturing defect which has been solved on the newer models (2017-present). Both the Astra and the 308 are very good cars so ideally choose the one that suits your driving needs. Owned the 308 for 2 years plus, so far so good! Fyi, the FC of the Astra is a lot better than the 308 (16km/l Vs 12km/l) Edited April 3, 2018 by BrantSyn 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
revenge88 1st Gear April 3, 2018 Share April 3, 2018 Coming from someone who has both the astra st and the 308 SW, I would say both are on par but, they both excel in different areas. Space wise for passengers, the Astra wins by a mile compared to the 308 SW. The 308 is pretty cramped with legroom but the moonroof makes up for it. Do take note though, on hot days the 308âs cabin is much noticeably hotter than the Astraâs. Drive wise, the 308 trumps the astra. The 308âs drivetrain is more refined and smoother than the Astra 1.0 but the Astra handles better than the Pug as it has a firmer suspension. Both are electrically assisted power steering units so donât expect much but the astraâs steering is more weighted at lower speeds. So far both the Astra and the 308 reliability has not been an issue. However the 308 had itâs rear suspension replaced FOC under warranty because of some manufacturing defect which has been solved on the newer models (2017-present). Both the Astra and the 308 are very good cars so ideally choose the one that suits your driving needs. Owned the 308 for 2 years plus, so far so good! Fyi, the FC of the Astra is a lot better than the 308 (16km/l Vs 12km/l) Thanks for the comparison. FYI, Komoco at Alexandria is also taking orders for the i30 wagon. Been advised that everything is identical to the HB except the length. Handling, etc is also supposed to be the same. Test drove the HB and the turbo lag at low speed is quite noticeable but can live with it. Also features a 7 speed gearbox. Feels a lot more premium than its Korean counterparts since it's made in Europe. Steering wheel is wrapped in soft napa leather and very nice to hold. SG model doesn't have sunroof nor driver assist features, but does have a rear ac outlet. Price is attractive, at 93k but mostly because of 10k VES rebate till 1st July. Pretty serious contender if you can look past the Korean badge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic April 3, 2018 Share April 3, 2018 The Astra was AG's best seller for 2017. It was also 2016 European car of the year. The 1.0 T is very good value for money. Even one owner drove his Astra 1.0 Sports Tourer up to Genting more than once! I chose the 1.4T as I wanted more "ooomph" as i travel up north 4-5 times a year. Fuel consumption is 6.7-7.5 litres per 100 km. Read my earlier posts in this thread. In early 2017, price was $108K for 1.4HB with 5 years warranty plus 5 years servicing package given by AG. I drove up north 4 times last year and I will be making a trip to Selangor after easter (April). Although the Astra does not have electric seats, there is an electric LUMBAR support by pressing a round button to adjust on the driver's seat when the engine is on. Good for those who have a bad back like me. Even the SE may have overlooked this. However, it will be difficult to sell the 1.4 Astra this year due to the VES surcharge. Hence, that is why I think AG will try to "push" for their newer SUVs. Please note that this is MY OPINION only. Some may disagree with me. It will be a good buy if the 1.4l drops to about SGD 100k relative to today's COE prices and not affected by CEVS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky168 Clutched April 17, 2018 Share April 17, 2018 just booked a astra 1.0ST. SE will go for COE bidding tmr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machunk28 4th Gear April 17, 2018 Share April 17, 2018 just booked a astra 1.0ST. SE will go for COE bidding tmr Congratz... ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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