Aion V

[SamSeah_88934]

Hi everyone, wanted to start a new topic on the GAC E9 PHEV but not sure why I couldn't do so. 

Anyway, have been seeing a handful of GAC E9 on the road. Is any of the owner in here?

Can share more about the ride, the electricity and petrol consumption please?

Looking forward to hearing from GAC E9 owners, if not, someone familiar will do too. 

Many thanks 🙏 

[Shawnthefarmer]

anyone know if there is Android Auto (wired/wireless)? 

[Nisse]

@Shawnthefarmer No but they give an android box to connect to android auto. Hopefully, it will be available soon as wireless carplay is made available in the last OTA upgrade. 

[Sandshrew88]

@Shawnthefarmer 

Edited September 11 by Sandshrew88

[steveting99]

On 9/4/2025 at 9:31 PM, SamSeah_88934 said:

Hi everyone, wanted to start a new topic on the GAC E9 PHEV but not sure why I couldn't do so. 

Anyway, have been seeing a handful of GAC E9 on the road. Is any of the owner in here?

Can share more about the ride, the electricity and petrol consumption please?

Looking forward to hearing from GAC E9 owners, if not, someone familiar will do too. 

Many thanks 🙏 

@SamSeah_88934 The E9 PHEV is very new with registrations starting in April 2025 and only 17 units registered up to July 2025. Don't think that Borneo Motors have much to worry about GAC taking market share away from Alphard and Velfire. 

VinCar and EV Hub is awaiting for BYD's response with the Xia PHEV minivan called the M9 that's going international and will soon compete with GAC's E9. Expected to arrive Malaysia in 2026 and one day in Singapore. 

Do note that Xpeng will be coming out with their PHEV version of the X9 at the end of 2025 here: https://carnewschina.com/2025/09/09/xpeng-to-launch-plug-in-hybrid-with-450-km-electric-range-and-63-3-kwh-battery-in-late-2025/. This will provide another good alternative to GAC's E9. 

More choice and competition is good for the consumer.

Edited September 14 by steveting99
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[steveting99]

Found the online owner's manual for Aion V for here: https://www.gacgroup.com/en-eu/user-manual

Did ask VinCar / EV Hub to provide a copy of the owners manual, but they refused. So I pointed out the above link and asked if it's the same. Got a funny answer - i.e. playing dumb. 

Would appreciate if current owners can confirm their owner's manual and the one in the link are the same.

Thanks.

 

Edited September 26 by steveting99
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[wenbing_92]

@steveting99 why wouldnt they want to provide the manual? shouldnt it be given to you?

[steveting99]

@wenbing_92 Not sure why. I also asked EV Hub what's the Gross Vehicle Weight in kg of the Aion V and the SE also played dumb. I then pointed out the owner's manual (online) which states it to be 2,280kg. With the kerb weight of 1,920kg means the maximum carrying capacity of the Aion V is just 360kg. This seems very low for an SUV.

That means with five adults, weighing an average of 72kg each (without any luggage) - the Aion V will hit its maximum carrying capacity. 

So the Aion V is not meant for bui bui drivers and passengers. Okay one bui bui driver🏋️‍♂️ and one bui bui front passenger🏋️‍♀️ should be okay with the Aion V. Anything more than this would be pushing it.

[steveting99]

I asked VinCar / EV Hub for the LFP battery curve of their high voltage battery pack on the Aion V. This is the GAC magazine battery. The y-axis is to show the battery capacity and on the x-axis is the cycle number. Gave an example of BYD's CBV4A battery curve.

The purpose was to check that the guaranteed minimum capacity 70% was going to be within the 10-year or 200,000kms battery warranty.   

VinCar / EV Hub refused to provide the battery curve and when prodded (asked them what they are trying to hide?), came up with the lame excuse that factory is "unwilling to share this information".🤥 In other words, VinCar / EV Hub is being sneaky on the high voltage battery warranty and don't want anyone to know that it can't meet 10-years or 200,000kms. If the high voltage battery is a lemon or is severely degraded, owner wont be able to find out and VinCar / EV Hub can play stupid until the warranty expires. Thus VinCar / EV Hub doe not have to honor the battery guarantee or spend money fixing the problem - just pass the problem to the owner!😵‍💫 This has happened to a few MCFers who bought PHEV BMWs with defective battery packs and got strung along by the AD. Seems that VinCar / EV Hub is playing the same game. 

So owners can't take VinCar / EV Hub to court and claim the battery is defective.🤐  Replacement of a defective cell within the pack is going to be near impossible and most likely the entire pack as to be swapped out - an expensive exercise. So cavet emptor.   

I also asked for a copy of the test certificate from the independent testing authority confirming that the high voltage battery is in compliance to GB 38031-2025. Pointed out that this is mandatory by law in China. Again VinCar / EV Hub is "unwilling to share this information". 🤥

Edited September 29 by steveting99
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[Ake109]

On 9/28/2025 at 11:29 AM, steveting99 said:

@wenbing_92 Not sure why. I also asked EV Hub what's the Gross Vehicle Weight in kg of the Aion V and the SE also played dumb. I then pointed out the owner's manual (online) which states it to be 2,280kg. With the kerb weight of 1,920kg means the maximum carrying capacity of the Aion V is just 360kg. This seems very low for an SUV.

That means with five adults, weighing an average of 72kg each (without any luggage) - the Aion V will hit its maximum carrying capacity. 

So the Aion V is not meant for bui bui drivers and passengers. Okay one bui bui driver🏋️‍♂️ and one bui bui front passenger🏋️‍♀️ should be okay with the Aion V. Anything more than this would be pushing it.

Doesn't kerb weight using EU standard which SG follows, already include 75kg for the driver? Means can still sit driver plus 360kg. Still not much.

[Ake109]

On 9/29/2025 at 2:52 PM, steveting99 said:

I asked VinCar / EV Hub for the LFP battery curve of their high voltage battery pack on the Aion V. This is the GAC magazine battery. The y-axis is to show the battery capacity and on the x-axis is the cycle number. Gave an example of BYD's CBV4A battery curve.

The purpose was to check that the guaranteed minimum capacity 70% was going to be within the 10-year or 200,000kms battery warranty.   

 

Is there any example of any manufacturer in SG which gives such information? How does BYD (in SG)do it in comparision?

These kind of questions, expect a good car reviewer to ask and write about. But nooooo, instead we get, 'slim headlights, chair comfortable, rear space good, usual fckery nonsense waste time'.

Edited September 29 by Ake109

[wenbing_92]

@steveting99 wah bro you make me scared that i had purchased a wrong car 

[steveting99]

On 9/29/2025 at 6:34 PM, Ake109 said:

Doesn't kerb weight using EU standard which SG follows, already include 75kg for the driver? Means can still sit driver plus 360kg. Still not much.

@Ake109 The DIN kerb weight represents the vehicle’s weight without any additional load, such as passengers or cargo. Article explaining what is kerb weight, gross weight and carrying capacity of the vehicle is here: https://gomechanic.in/blog/kerb-weight-vs-gross-weight/#:~:text=Kerb weight is the car,and tyres can safely handle.

You're right in that the EU kerb weight does include +75kg to approximate the weight of the driver and luggage for emission test. 

If the Aion V is following EU standard to measure the kerb weight then the maximum carrying capacity is 360kg + 75kg = 435 kg, which is little better. Will have to check with VinCar / EV Hub on this. 

 

 

[Ake109]

On 9/29/2025 at 10:11 PM, steveting99 said:

@Ake109 The DIN kerb weight represents the vehicle’s weight without any additional load, such as passengers or cargo. Article explaining what is kerb weight, gross weight and carrying capacity of the vehicle is here: https://gomechanic.in/blog/kerb-weight-vs-gross-weight/#:~:text=Kerb weight is the car,and tyres can safely handle.

You're right in that the EU kerb weight does include +75kg to approximate the weight of the driver and luggage for emission test. 

If the Aion V is following EU standard to measure the kerb weight then the maximum carrying capacity is 360kg + 75kg = 435 kg, which is little better. Will have to check with VinCar / EV Hub on this. 

 

 

Is there a reliable link anywhere out there that clearly states if LTA is using DIN or EEC definition of kerb weight?

[steveting99]

On 9/29/2025 at 9:26 PM, wenbing_92 said:

@steveting99 wah bro you make me scared that i had purchased a wrong car 

@wenbing_92 I still think the Aion V is good B&B ride that's suitable for most. It has good features and tech in the Cat A territory - which makes it value for money.

It's just the way VinCar / EV Hub goes about promoting it and playing dumb are the issues. Hiding their triple digit margins behind duties, taxes and finance charges to purposely mislead future owners into thinking they're getting a good deal is something I find appalling. Thought that most Singaporeans were kiasu when it comes to spending their hard earned money. So when VinCar / EV Hub is taking me for a ride and want to take a pound of flesh from me, it won't be without a fight. 

There's going to be a lot more competition from China EV and Battery Co. in 2026. So VinCar / EV Hub / GAC needs to provide an update/facelift to the current generation two (2024) model of the Aion V to stay relevant. Yes, the 2024 Aion V is starting to look old and out dated. 

Suspect it'll be mid 2026 that GAC provides generation three of the Aion V. Will see what that brings to the table. 

Did you get the Luxury or Premium version of the Aion V? 

Edited September 30 by steveting99
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[Themman]

@steveting99 So weird, this is the first time i hear that car dealer handover a brand new car without handing over car operator manual. Or i am a mountain tortoise?

Or this practise applies only to Vincar and/or EV car dealers?

From my experience, all manual/training to operate ALL the features/functions should be part of the handover procedure/paperwork. My recent purchase of a second hand 1.5 year old car (From Cartimes) also pass to me the manual. 🫢

[Micb]

On 9/30/2025 at 2:29 PM, steveting99 said:

@wenbing_92 I still think the Aion V is good B&B ride that's suitable for most. It has good features and tech in the Cat A territory - which makes it value for money.

It's just the way VinCar / EV Hub goes about promoting it and playing dumb are the issues. Hiding their triple digit margins behind duties, taxes and finance charges to purposely mislead future owners into thinking they're getting a good deal is something I find appalling. Thought that most Singaporeans were kiasu when it comes to spending their hard earned money. So when VinCar / EV Hub is taking me for a ride and want to take a pound of flesh from me, it won't be without a fight. 

There's going to be a lot more competition from China EV and Battery Co. in 2026. So VinCar / EV Hub / GAC needs to provide an update/facelift to the current generation two (2024) model of the Aion V to stay relevant. Yes, the 2024 Aion V is starting to look old and out dated. 

Suspect it'll be mid 2026 that GAC provides generation three of the Aion V. Will see what that brings to the table. 

Did you get the Luxury or Premium version of the Aion V? 

Hi @steveting99,  is it possible to elaborate on this "triple digit margins behind duties, taxes and finance charges".    The triple digit margins in % or $$.  Roughly how much?   Thanks.

[wenbing_92]

@steveting99 hahaha I bought the luxury but I am still waiting for the coe bidding as I only bought right after the last bidding so there's a chance I wont get the car this upcoming bidding. 

 

What about you? You got the car quite early right? Or you didnt buy it?