Fuel Consumption Saving Tips

[Windchoco]

Just a matter of curiosity.

 

I wonder how many in singapore are quietly practising hypermiling (fuel save driving). I understand there are no such clubs here. Not even a website or forum!!! Google and Yahoo showed only MCF as the only place in singapore having this thread discussed actively.

 

Maybe a secret group does exist. Membership by initiation ritual

 

well, i can sponsor the forum if there is enough interest. Could just treat it as investment.

 

Fully understand what u r toking abt.. but comparing US hypermiling forums, they are really much more hardcore than we are...

they are hardcore modding their cars to have rediculously better FC... (ecomodding)

 

ecomodding workshops will be an interesting, currently underdeveloped business in Singapore...

 

 

[Unfair]

hypermilling is done on their super long highways

 

Do you guys dare not to brake and take corners even @ 80-100km/hr ?

 

SG has too many traffic lights/jams.

[Hypermiler]

 

to Yuan & 5936

 

Sometimes cannot help it. Not that you want to go near embassy cars. They shoot out of no where to be near you.

 

Diplomatic immunity laws will make accident cases difficult to settle.

 

Lucky the ambassador's wife says its ok. I think she knows it's illegal to make U-turn. Her instruction to her driver caused a collision. The damage to her car was quite bad. Easily a few thousand $$$.

 

By the way, unlike other forms of driving, hypermiling promotes safe driving habits.

 

The benefits are many. You ensure safety for yourself, familiy and friends, and others. And you save fuel at the same time. You help reduce atmospheric pollution.

 

And also, car parts last longer, less wear and tear. Save many unwanted trips to workshop and $$$.

 

[Hypermiler]

hypermilling is done on their super long highways

 

Do you guys dare not to brake and take corners even @ 80-100km/hr ?

 

SG has too many traffic lights/jams.

 

 

Quite the contrary. Hypermilers are strongly against dangerous and risky driving. Those doing it (overseas) have been warned by their transport authorities openly. It is an offense.

 

Hypermiling does not mean gliding and coasting only. It is a collective set of ideas brought together by enthusiasts and practised as an infused and consolidated driving habit.

 

It can be done on highways or HDB traffic. No ristriction to the kind of road conditions.

 

[5936]

Maybe she saw something more charming than the damages

She must be rich tai tai. Oops

[Hypermiler]

well, i can sponsor the forum if there is enough interest. Could just treat it as investment.

 

Fully understand what u r toking abt.. but comparing US hypermiling forums, they are really much more hardcore than we are...

they are hardcore modding their cars to have rediculously better FC... (ecomodding)

 

ecomodding workshops will be an interesting, currently underdeveloped business in Singapore...

 

 

Thank you for being so gracious. Lets see how the interest grows from here. If the numbers and participation grows, then it would be nice to form a dedicated group. Really appreciate your generosity.

 

At the moment, ecomodding in singapore is only done in NTU/Poly and other govt/private research depts. Nothing that is commercial yet.

 

Totally agree. it will be a blast so see vendors coming in to share their findings and enthusiasts sharing their experience.

 

Looking forward to more participants.

 

[Hypermiler]

Maybe she saw something more charming than the damages

She must be rich tai tai. Oops

 

 

She is a rich tai-tai. Saw her many times at SICC playing golf. A prominent figure among the socialites. I think she is retired already. senior citizen.

 

[5936]

So she got spare time for CCA

[Hypermiler]

 

She owns and runs her own business while her husband is busy with diplomatic work. As part of her PR-ing and community bonding she plays golf and attends social functions at night.

 

I used to see her at golf courses and glitzy functions. Not sure about now.

 

By the way i am not a socialite. I was a lifestyle magazine photographer.

[Hypermiler]

 

PUMP PRICES UP

 

There is a thread currently on fuel price increase.

 

So it gives us more reason and encouragement to find ways to improve mileage.

 

We don't have to compromise by giving up our high cc cars. Just practise hypermiling technique.

 

It is already proven possible with big and heavy cars.

 

Toyota Camry --- Best possible mileage --- 20 km/L

Lexus 350 (non hybrid)----------------------- 14.5 km/L

Toyota Prius (hybrid) ------------------------- 27 plus km/L

 

Many other high capacity vehicles were tried and tested on daily rides.

We can squeeze out as much as 40% more than stated in the specs.

 

Cars with high capacity will show better mileage improvement. The advantage they have in power to weight ratio.

 

Those cars that are fitted with real-time mileage digital display can rely on their instrument to manage their driving styles. Those without can depend on their time tested butt-dyno

[Branzzz]

i'm driving a toyota mr-s and have been trying different guels over the past month. so far, the best mileage i get is from a combi of v-power and shell 98. i've been doing 570km for 40 litres which gives 14.25km/l. driving styles are economical most of the way, but with some very spirited driving added in once in awhile. stuff i do to maximise mileage:

 

upshifting lower, typically below 2000rpm, driving at 5th gear through estates. note however that my final 6th gear ratio is rather low so i cruise on highway about 26-2700rpm at 90kmh.

 

keep to speed limit. anything about 90 on highway seems to burn petrol excessively. besides, if you drive at 110 compared to 90, you're only going to get to your destination maybe a minute or so earlier.

 

drafting. while i'm hugely against tailgating, i believe keeping a reasonable distance behind the car in front does reduce fc. however i'm not sure if its psychological or not for manual cars cause say travelling at 90kmh behind someone who's taking the wind pull vs driving in open road at 90kmh, the engine still runs at the same rpm. to be investigated further.

 

plan your routes properly, nothing more frustrating than to spend time in a traffic jam or burn fuel going somewhere unnecessary.

 

also helps that you lighten your car. i removed the spare tire cause i know i probably won't be using/ won't be able to put it on anyway. car is roughly 950kilos for a 1.8L engine.

[Elfenstar]

My take is simple.

If you want to practice hypermilling to prove a point, go for it.

If you do it because you can't afford fuel anymore or want to save money, drive less and take public transport more.

For most part hypermilling techniques (esp the advanced stuff) are both dangerous and very inconsiderate.

[Hypermiler]

My take is simple.

If you want to practice hypermilling to prove a point, go for it.

If you do it because you can't afford fuel anymore or want to save money, drive less and take public transport more.

For most part hypermilling techniques (esp the advanced stuff) are both dangerous and very inconsiderate.

 

 

 

Not to be misunderstood. Better you know where i am coming from.

 

My job requires me to drive. Driving is my job. So I can't save fuel by driving less or take public transport. I can't possibly fetch my clients with their heavy barang-barang by public transport or by driving less.

 

Tried that before. (4 months to be exact). MRT & bus with my client. Got stopped by MRT security countless times. Got told off by bus driver and inspector many times. Ended up taking taxi. Cost even more than driving a small cc car!!! Your method/advice does not work.

 

My monthly mileage exceeds 4000km. Fuel amounts to quite alot if i drive around "spiritedly".

 

Until scientist and industrialists can introduce a truely economical and fuel efficient way for personal and commercial transport. "Safe" Hypermiling is the practical way for now with no extra cost to anyone.

 

Just a change of driving styles. It has brought my fuel expenditure down by as much as 30%... or a little more sometimes.

 

As i have mentioned earlier. I am totally against dangerous and inconsiderate driving . I don't practise or encourage "advanced stuff" . Will save that for the track when i want to prove my point... (still waiting for sponsors and organisers to fix the rally date) .

definitely won't do any stunts on shared commuter roads.

 

My point is, if there are people out there who have to drive and drive alot and often, there are ways to bring the cost down... In a safe way conforming to the laws of singapore roads.

 

I just want to share what i know (the Safe Way of course) and at the same time get some ideas from what others are doing.

 

 

 

 

 

[Hypermiler]

 

to Branzzz

 

Have you watched Mythbusters?

Yes, it's proven true. You do save fuel when you draft. .... and it will only work effectively when you drive dangerously close to the truck...about half car length away.

 

The verdict is ... it is not worth the danger to do it. So better to avoid this method.

 

Wow! 950kg for a 1.8 L car? That's extremely good power to weight ratio you have there. Even lighter than the Mitsubishi electric " i ".

 

Looks like you will be breaking the 20 km/L barrier anytime soon

 

 

[Elfenstar]

Not to be misunderstood. Better you know where i am coming from.

 

My job requires me to drive. Driving is my job. So I can't save fuel by driving less or take public transport. I can't possibly fetch my clients with their heavy barang-barang by public transport or by driving less.

 

Tried that before. (4 months to be exact). MRT & bus with my client. Got stopped by MRT security countless times. Got told off by bus driver and inspector many times. Ended up taking taxi. Cost even more than driving a small cc car!!! Your method/advice does not work.

 

My monthly mileage exceeds 4000km. Fuel amounts to quite alot if i drive around "spiritedly".

 

Until scientist and industrialists can introduce a truely economical and fuel efficient way for personal and commercial transport. "Safe" Hypermiling is the practical way for now with no extra cost to anyone.

 

Just a change of driving styles. It has brought my fuel expenditure down by as much as 30%... or a little more sometimes.

 

As i have mentioned earlier. I am totally against dangerous and inconsiderate driving . I don't practise or encourage "advanced stuff" . Will save that for the track when i want to prove my point... (still waiting for sponsors and organisers to fix the rally date) .

definitely won't do any stunts on shared commuter roads.

 

My point is, if there are people out there who have to drive and drive alot and often, there are ways to bring the cost down... In a safe way conforming to the laws of singapore roads.

 

I just want to share what i know (the Safe Way of course) and at the same time get some ideas from what others are doing.

 

So what exactly do you do to hypermill?

 

[Hypermiler]

 

 

So what exactly do you do to hypermill?

 

It's mentioned in the earlier posts. Go back a few pages and you will see many contributions.

 

[Zyrofillica]

last time i try to practice hypermilling, take out spare/tools even umbrella. Overinflate my tyres and drive like a grandma and irritated lots of other motorists. minimize use of aircon. drive at most efficient speed at highway (80km/h). 12km/l can go up to 17km/l. but its a lifestyle i cant take, save a few bucks but have to be so conscious about driving style and also piss off many other road users. add more stress to my life and hence realized not worth the hassle even though can save money. it makes driving much more of a chore than a pleasure (even though its already a big chore for me)

[Hypermiler]

 

You have't got the hang of it yet.

It takes time for adjustment.

 

I felt exactly the same way when i first started. Wanted to just quit.

 

Then came the tsunami increase in fuel price. So i pressed on.

 

It's a habit to me now. Consciousness and alertness on the road has become automatic. No longer stressful. I treat it like a daily hobby.

 

I follow the flow of the traffic. So i do not irritate and annoy anyone. They drive fast i drive fast. They drive slow i drive slow.

 

I just keep to several car lengths away to give myself time to smoothen the acceleration and deceleration without having to drive in a jerky start stop manner. Just master the use of throttling. In fact constant brake and stop driving irritates drivers more.

 

Once you get the hang, you can drive with all the load and air-con and still return with very good mileage.

 

Patience is keyword.