Tarzan666 2nd Gear May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 wah..tis list quite zhun 1..i believe so my frd & relative oso hav bad experience with c*r ma* & motor *rade* 1st 1..frd paid deposit,supposed 2 deliver at tis time,coe increase dramaticali,tell story like axio kena recall,have 2 wait,if u 1 nw have 2 pay more 4 another version... 2nd 1-relative 1 2 buy wish..3mth later,keep tellin loan not approved,have 2 wait..etc both cases,after they 1 2 back out..1 2 charge admin fee..but nvr get it la. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auron 2nd Gear May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 the % of complaints is much much lesser at AD than at PI. basically just be extra careful if anybody intend to buy from PI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquee Clutched May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 yes, I did....bot one 1.5 yr ago and happy customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahyoo2002 2nd Gear May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 I would said for the same period of time, the complaints against AD also up. Why? Because if you look at mcf posting, there are a lot of complaints against AD who "lure" buyers to book at extremely low price after COE crash in Feb and were told to top up or can not even get car/COE till today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilb Clutched May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 ISO does not mean that the PI is honest. its all about the business ethics of the boss. if the top man is the dishonest type, we cannot expect the lower level staff to have much integrity. Precisely what i meant. Even Company with ISO including likes of PI and AD do have Complaints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckduck Turbocharged May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 (edited) actually the issue is that most buyers are not seasoned negotiators. caveat emptor lor no black n white means no commitments. Must put everything in black n white. i thkin of buyin frm PI, so i demand to put in clauses in the S&P agreement up to my satisfaction or else they not getting my money. i haven buy yet lah but will try this tactic when i do. Something like "notwithstanding & without limitations any unforeseen circumstances causing any delay in agreed shipment date of car, no admin fee whatsoever charged if i cancel order. No cancellation or break fee chargeable" haha go home read the S&P until shiok then buy Edited May 19, 2007 by Duckduck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picanto 3rd Gear May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 even if put everthing in black and white, some PIs still may not be able to fufill the sales contract. to save the hassle, better buy from ADs. if they cannot fulfill the terms and conditions, at least the buyer will receive some compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carforun Neutral Newbie May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 Yes, I heard that some have no intention of selling you cars. Just want to use your deposit to run their business. So the pricing is very steep and cheap. So be very careful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerms Clutched May 19, 2007 Share May 19, 2007 bro... can ask you wat is price very steep and very cheap? well... honestly.. i dun think this report is really fair to the PIs... one thing for sure if they are so bad.. where got so many WISH or STREAMS and FIT on the road? I personally bought a Honda Fit from a PI and he told is no matter how high the COE go its 1 bid only for my car.. so i asked him.. how long do i have to wait for my storm grey fit? he say 2 weeks.. with bodykit, rims and sound system all in.. so honestly.. at that time i told myself.. i give you 1mth... haha.. make myself feel better first mah.. then 2 my surprise.. he called me today.. after 2 weeks.. i really got my car.. and everything is in order. Really impressed with them... so i think the report is not really showing the true picture.. for 1 thing i m sure.. the reports will give face to AD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic May 20, 2007 Share May 20, 2007 ISO just means the company has documented procedures to do certain work. It also means that they have a procedure to address complains. It does not mean the company is honest or anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EventH 1st Gear May 20, 2007 Share May 20, 2007 They probably had ready stock for the fit and COE. Probably can even give you the chassis no. on the purchase agreement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxster 2nd Gear May 20, 2007 Share May 20, 2007 (edited) Yah ISO 9xxx quality in management (but limited also) So if yr company need ISO just go to the consultation company and ask what they want in order for them to give u a certification. Follow it and they give you the ISO "paper" valid for a yr. Edited May 20, 2007 by Boxster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilb Clutched May 20, 2007 Share May 20, 2007 ISO does not mean that the PI is honest. its all about the business ethics of the boss. if the top man is the dishonest type, we cannot expect the lower level staff to have much integrity. Precisely what i meant. Even Company with ISO including likes of PI and AD do have Complaints. Isnt this what i meant? Did i mention that having ISO-listed co. are honest, my earlier post is above. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuendi 3rd Gear May 21, 2007 Share May 21, 2007 Dont be fooled by this ISO thingy.. ISO simply requires certified companies to: Do what is documented Documented what is to be done So if a certified company documented in their ISO document that no refund will be provided, then there shall be no refund. On the high level, ISO simply drive consistency in business; consistently good and consistently bad is also termed as 'Consistent'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picanto 3rd Gear May 21, 2007 Share May 21, 2007 many ppl got the misconception that ISO stands for a good quality company. after the explanation, hope that the forumers here will clear that misconception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahbengdriver 6th Gear May 21, 2007 Share May 21, 2007 I think the article also said ther are about 200 PIs right? Wah lau, machiam like bubble-tea-shop and Luohan-fish-shop man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisiang 2nd Gear May 22, 2007 Share May 22, 2007 I'm still waiting for my Stream after almost 2 months Got Chasis no. and car in stock but PI refuse to gimme COE cos that time when I pay deposit still old price for the 12k COE. Now they give the car to some other customer who paid a much higher price leaving me high and dry for now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanboi 1st Gear May 22, 2007 Share May 22, 2007 Stream Guess u will mod ur stream just like how u mod ur current ride? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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