Benarsenal Turbocharged July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 by the way, i really dont know whats the problem here. manual cars are just as easy to drive. only a bit tiring when in start stop traffic. Which is almost all the time in Singapore. But I agree. Knowing the skills of manual driving helps in overall driving skill. You learn how to moderate your speed in anticipation of a gear change to increase/decrease your speed, which is useful in lane changing and overtaking. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunlight 1st Gear July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 3a good for ppl whose hands and legs can't co ordinate - like me hehe wah pls let me know your car. will avoid u Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 by the way, i really dont know whats the problem here. manual cars are just as easy to drive. only a bit tiring when in start stop traffic. i agree. wat c--k and bull abt needing real skill. Real skill is running arnd at high speed doing turns. If an autocar driver can do it faster than a manual car driver, u all call tat less skilled is it I learnt class 3 but i honestly think in 20 yrs time, manuals will be in 3rd world countries. What can a manual achieve in FC tat a CVT gearbox cant. What can a gearbox do tat a DSG one cant ? anyway im v happy with auto gearboxes. Tat day i was behind a lady on a carpark slope. she rolled back > 1 m ... had to horn her several times before she had the sense to engage the brake ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezersg 3rd Gear July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 For most countries, driving is a very 'basic' thing only in Spore is like a 'privilege. In USA, one dun even have to formally enrol in a driving course, your uncle, aunty, mom, dad, sis can teach you to learn driving and you only need to book a driving test, to get a license. To say that, a manual driver is much more skillful than an auto car driver is to strecth thing too far, since when does driving involve only handling the clutch, in fact one can argue...an auto driver not needing to handle the clutch, will be free to concentrate on other aspect of driving. Lets, not fool yourself....most of us here are just average drivers regardless if you know manual, you think you F1 material? Thats is also why driving a taxi is never considered a 'skillful' job even if it is manual. But then if you are F1 driver...aha that another matter completely. I have some friends when I asked why they opt for manual....they give reasons like so many have given...but in the end...they admit is mainly about 'face' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenderbender Neutral Newbie July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 Relax lah bro, no one is challenging your 'manhood' just because you prefer the ease of an auto tranny. Driving pleasure or 'skill' for some people isn't about flooring the pedal and barrelling a hunk of metal down a straight or ripping corners as fast as possible. Driving pleasure is for such people, something 'organic', that a finely tuned CVT or DSG box cannot give. That is, a car that respects your judgement, good or bad, not what the ECU or on-board computer decides you should be doing. It's kind of like comparing the sound of Vinyl and CD/MP3 sounds, valves vs transistors, etc. To each, his/her own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 My personal experience is getting a 'manual' driving license (my days no 'auto' option), then going straight for an automatic as my first car (very impressed with the automation... it blew me away when i first experienced it!), and now enjoying a 'manual' as my second car after selling off the first one. Driving an auto as your first vehicle is advantageous, because at this noob stage, it's better for you to concentrate and get used to the traffic conditions rather than get distracted by shifting gears. Later on, when you've familiarised with the roads, driving a 'manual' is better for all the advantages that it confers, e.g. cheaper car price, fuel efficiency, ego (huh?), allows you to learn drifting (??) and many other maneuvers not possible with an automatic, etc. Most of all, I think that driving a 'manual' is less accident-prone, because of the delay involved in shifting gears, and the action also serves as a confirmation of what you're going to do. With an automatic, it's just step on the accelerator and off you go - and that's why you hear of accidents like reversing into buildings, cannot stop in time, mistook reverse for forward or acclerator for brake... the list goes on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bismarck Turbocharged July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 For most countries, driving is a very 'basic' thing only in Spore is like a 'privilege. In USA, one dun even have to formally enrol in a driving course, your uncle, aunty, mom, dad, sis can teach you to learn driving and you only need to book a driving test, to get a license. To say that, a manual driver is much more skillful than an auto car driver is to strecth thing too far, since when does driving involve only handling the clutch, in fact one can argue...an auto driver not needing to handle the clutch, will be free to concentrate on other aspect of driving. Lets, not fool yourself....most of us here are just average drivers regardless if you know manual, you think you F1 material? Thats is also why driving a taxi is never considered a 'skillful' job even if it is manual. But then if you are F1 driver...aha that another matter completely. I have some friends when I asked why they opt for manual....they give reasons like so many have given...but in the end...they admit is mainly about 'face' At least your friends have the option of choosing between manual and auto and admit is because of "face" Some of the members here including me dont have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bismarck Turbocharged July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 My personal experience is getting a 'manual' driving license (my days no 'auto' option), then going straight for an automatic as my first car (very impressed with the automation... it blew me away when i first experienced it!), and now enjoying a 'manual' as my second car after selling off the first one. Driving an auto as your first vehicle is advantageous, because at this noob stage, it's better for you to concentrate and get used to the traffic conditions rather than get distracted by shifting gears. Later on, when you've familiarised with the roads, driving a 'manual' is better for all the advantages that it confers, e.g. cheaper car price, fuel efficiency, ego (huh?), allows you to learn drifting (??) and many other maneuvers not possible with an automatic, etc. Most of all, I think that driving a 'manual' is less accident-prone, because of the delay involved in shifting gears, and the action also serves as a confirmation of what you're going to do. With an automatic, it's just step on the accelerator and off you go - and that's why you hear of accidents like reversing into buildings, cannot stop in time, mistook reverse for forward or acclerator for brake... the list goes on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 My personal experience is getting a 'manual' driving license (my days no 'auto' option), then going straight for an automatic as my first car (very impressed with the automation... it blew me away when i first experienced it!), and now enjoying a 'manual' as my second car after selling off the first one. Driving an auto as your first vehicle is advantageous, because at this noob stage, it's better for you to concentrate and get used to the traffic conditions rather than get distracted by shifting gears. Later on, when you've familiarised with the roads, driving a 'manual' is better for all the advantages that it confers, e.g. cheaper car price, fuel efficiency, ego (huh?), allows you to learn drifting (??) and many other maneuvers not possible with an automatic, etc. Most of all, I think that driving a 'manual' is less accident-prone, because of the delay involved in shifting gears, and the action also serves as a confirmation of what you're going to do. With an automatic, it's just step on the accelerator and off you go - and that's why you hear of accidents like reversing into buildings, cannot stop in time, mistook reverse for forward or acclerator for brake... the list goes on. But there's also the other way. Because of the 'delay', then you lose the chance to change lane (you know how Singaporeans are. Impatient type, never give way). So some people 'fierce fierce' (dunno Hokkien how to type) chiong in, thus causing accident. Auto, you see a spot, you zoom in. Finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike80 Neutral Newbie July 22, 2009 Share July 22, 2009 yes, i totally agreed with most bros here that a class 3 licence is definitely a better choice over class 3A..I believe manual transmission car will definitely still in production..I cannot imagine F1, drift racing using auto gear..With auto gear, they dun have total control of their car when they are doing corners and the downshift of gear to pick up is critical in those moments when they are racing.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear July 23, 2009 Author Share July 23, 2009 yes, i totally agreed with most bros here that a class 3 licence is definitely a better choice over class 3A..I believe manual transmission car will definitely still in production..I cannot imagine F1, drift racing using auto gear..With auto gear, they dun have total control of their car when they are doing corners and the downshift of gear to pick up is critical in those moments when they are racing.. agree, because in MCF most 'bros' are male, still think driving manual is skillful job, but for female, don't think driving manual is a needful skill and rare chance to driving lorry or van Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bismarck Turbocharged July 23, 2009 Share July 23, 2009 agree, because in MCF most 'bros' are male, still think driving manual is skillful job, but for female, don't think driving manual is a needful skill and rare chance to driving lorry or van I know! Why not have a rule that only males take manual and if they take auto they will have to pay twice the lessons/practical test fee and for female, all females take auto and if they choose to take manual their lessons/practical test fees pay 1/4 of auto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amortifiedpenguin Clutched July 23, 2009 Share July 23, 2009 But there's also the other way. Because of the 'delay', then you lose the chance to change lane (you know how Singaporeans are. Impatient type, never give way). So some people 'fierce fierce' (dunno Hokkien how to type) chiong in, thus causing accident. Auto, you see a spot, you zoom in. Finish. I think my shifting speed is faster than that of a normal AT gearbox that you get from a car that is under $100K. 'delay'? what delay? how much speed can one loose while changing gear? (assuming shifting up) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear July 23, 2009 Share July 23, 2009 best is semi-auto la use paddle-shifts faster than your gear stick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear July 23, 2009 Author Share July 23, 2009 best is semi-auto la use paddle-shifts faster than your gear stick I still highly doubt manual got faster sprint than auto, unless the manual driver is skillful enough c/w fast gear shifting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_9 Neutral Newbie July 23, 2009 Share July 23, 2009 Hello, the speed and performance of auto car is better, but maintenance of auto car could be a problem, if there is a little fault in it, then you have to change it completely and your local mechanic can not help you in solving your problem. Regards, sarah_9 Online Traffic School & Traffic Ticket Los Angeles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged July 23, 2009 Share July 23, 2009 I think my shifting speed is faster than that of a normal AT gearbox that you get from a car that is under $100K. 'delay'? what delay? how much speed can one loose while changing gear? (assuming shifting up) Of course, if you are skilled, gear changing is quick lah. But those not so skilled, gear changing must release accelerator, clutch in, shift the stick, clutch out, step accelerator. Compared to auto just step accelerator, cut out so many steps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom288 Neutral Newbie July 23, 2009 Share July 23, 2009 Manual is still better...of course i am biased , sometimes auto car just cant make up its mind on which gear to use, especially when going up or downhill. I prefer to control the speed of the car with gears and throttle control, with manual, i can stay in a certain gear and control the speed of the car with just the throttle, with auto, i have to use both brakes and accelerator. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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