Do you trust wheel alignment without computers ?

[GoodCar]

It takes at least two to three years of studying and another three years of practical hand-on work before one can be consider a skill mechanic. To be a Master mechanic you will need more indepth training provide by car manufacuters or attend professional courses ( hardly available in this part of the work). Besides all these you need to keep up to date by subcripting to paid professional magazine and forums.

So for those out here, mechs are not GREASE MONKEY!! They are professional working with their hands and heads.

 

 

I think in Asia, the respect for skill people is still lacking compare to the west.

I heard that in USA, a diesel engine truck mechanic earn more than an avaition Mechnic.

Country that respect craftman are usually strong. e.g Germany and Japan

 

Anyone can verify?

[Help1]

a bricklayer in Aust is a skilled worker who can earn more than a white-collar worker

[GoodCar]

also u can let the mechanic earn $10/hr, the WS still earns! as i say end of the day the WS makes more for some jobs and make lesser for some jobs.

 

i think help1 dont get wad im trying to say. he's seeing as thou i look down on ppl who uses their hands and legs to earn a living which clearly im not.

 

all along i was just breeaking down the cost at an estimate rate at a request of someone. and cost analysis cant be broken down perfectly. u can only do an estimate based on ceteris paribus theory

 

 

Yes, I can concur that ROBO don't anyhow look down on people one, this is just a miss understanding.

[Robo]

Yes, I can concur that ROBO don't anyhow look down on people one, this is just a miss understanding.

 

Thank you!

[Yeobh]

You are correct, many out of work aircraft mechanics in US opt to be become auto mech and they are making good money due to thier knowldege on mechatronic and control via wire.

 

Countries that are highly industrialise usually have very good training programms for apprenticships and vocational trainings. Besides Germany & Japan , I believe Belgium is also one of them.

 

During the late 70's if you have good knowledege on service and repair of Caterpillar, Cummings or GM diesel engines ( at that time most of the diesel mechs are only familair with British makes) you can command very attractive payments doing freelance work.

[Roadhogger]

It takes at least two to three years of studying and another three years of practical hand-on work before one can be consider a skill mechanic. To be a Master mechanic you will need more indepth training provide by car manufacuters or attend professional courses ( hardly available in this part of the work). Besides all these you need to keep up to date by subcripting to paid professional magazine and forums.

So for those out here, mechs are not GREASE MONKEY!! They are professional working with their hands and heads.

AGREE!

[Donut]

WS doesnt really make alot of $$....

 

i have send my cars for repairs and servicing. the price i'm paying is so little, compared to the number of mech attending to my car and manhours.

 

for example, i clearly rem i send my car for water pump change coz of seal leaking.... this job takes half a day liao. 4 hours to be exact and 2 mechs and 1 senior mech are attending to it.

 

and i paid $200 to $230 for it. u just imagine... $200 divide by 4 hours and divided by 3 men.... its really a small profit for the WS.

 

its a hard labor job... they got to use brute muscle to take out my water pump.... i see already, i sweat for them....

 

and while my car is sitting at the WS, it's taking up space and preventing other cars to do other repairs.

 

 

[Iwanttofuckyou]

definitely no

[Yeobh]

Probably only one guy is the skill mechanic and the rest are just there as helpers to take care of muscle work

It's time consuming work if the water pump impeller is housed inside the timing cover and most of the the mech needs to lift and title the engine to get wrenching space. Removing the crankshaft locking nut is really muscle and levelage work if the mech don't have the right impact wrench.

Edited October 20, 2009 by Yeobh

[Hulk]

i think human expertise can't beat computer precision when it comes to wheel alignment.

find Kenny at AMK Autopoint. best in the business.

 

How much to do a computerise wheel alignment normally. My steering wheel always steer a little bit left in order maintain straight course .

What is the shop name of this kenny at AMK autopoint?

Thanks

 

[Yeobh]

If you ride front undercarriage is damage free, I reckon you could save some money by just visiting shop that do wheel side slip adjustment. What is actual require is one or both wheel toe angle need some adjustment to compensate the wheel camber pulling force.

[Vinceyeo]

I done an alignment without computer 1 yr ago... my new tires botak within 8 months (un-even wear)

 

Where did you do your manual wheel alignment? I did mine at ST Powered after changing my suspension and it works well for me till date which is months ago and no uneven wear on my tyres.

 

I feel that manual alignment is good if the mechanic is good else its like computer based alignment where the alignment can be crap as well if the machine is not properly calibrated or operator error.

 

Also a food for thought for those who strongly believe in computerised alignment. Might want to check with the workshop if they re-calibrate their machines regularly as the amount of cars going through their alignment you can imagine how accurate they are after some time.