Exercising without a gym

[Topgun]

You know it, I know it.

 

Unfortunately, most people will think we are BS'ing when we recount our experiences.

 

Such is life...

 

Again, for people who are interested, it's not the quantity of calories that count, it's the quality of calories.

 

Don't believe? Try this experiment:

 

Eat 1200 calories of only whole grain bread for 1 week. Measure waist line.

 

Eat 1200 calories of only butter for 1 week. Measure waist line.

 

Then see which is more fattening. Whole grain bread or butter.

 

I just pig-ed out on pork trotters after coming home from F1. Accompanied by coffee with a nice block of butter!

 

Yummm...yum...now contended.

 

[Chickenbackside]

For those who are interested in how saturated fat became the villian, listen to this interview with practicing cardiac surgeon, Dr Donald Miller, take you through the birth of the whole food pyramid we see today:

 

http://www.carbohydratescankill.com/632/dr-donald-miller-ep

 

 

 

 

Or read an article he wrote about it:

 

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller33.1.html

 

 

Health Benefits of a Low-Carbohydrate, High-Saturated-Fat Diet

 

by Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD

 

 

A hundred years ago, before Americans changed their diet and the calamitous events of the 20th century began, heart disease was far less common that it is now. Few Americans were overweight, and coronary heart disease was not yet recognized as an illness. Pneumonia, diarrhea and enteritis, and tuberculosis were the three most common causes of death, whereas coronary heart disease is now the most common cause of death in the United States. The medical subspecialty of cardiology was created in 1940. Since then the number of cardiologists in the U.S. has grown from 500 in 1950 to 30,000 now

[Mazdaowner]

My mind is still thinking of the live groupers I had on Saturday morning................................

Wife cooked. Braised 3-layered pork wrapped wth wth raw lettuce. Steamed garoupa. Pan fried beef slices wth spring onion Ginger. Wonderful... But not so stuffed thawiu won't be hungry for a hearty breakfast tomorrow. Muahahaha!

 

[Mazdaowner]

BASKET! Making me salivate man! [laugh] I'm nto much of a duck eater really, chicken, and rest best. Hey, did you "SEE"

Venison meat for sale? Got myself 2 packs again (remembered) Saturday, wah! Sunday cooked, heaven.

[Mazdaowner]

This just about sums up 200+ pages of this thread into one simple to follow guideline. [thumbsup]

 

For those who are interested in how saturated fat became the villian, listen to this interview with practicing cardiac surgeon, Dr Donald Miller, take you through the birth of the whole food pyramid we see today:

 

http://www.carbohydratescankill.com/632/dr-donald-miller-ep

 

 

 

 

Or read an article he wrote about it:

 

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller33.1.html

 

 

Health Benefits of a Low-Carbohydrate, High-Saturated-Fat Diet

 

by Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD

 

 

A hundred years ago, before Americans changed their diet and the calamitous events of the 20th century began, heart disease was far less common that it is now. Few Americans were overweight, and coronary heart disease was not yet recognized as an illness. Pneumonia, diarrhea and enteritis, and tuberculosis were the three most common causes of death, whereas coronary heart disease is now the most common cause of death in the United States. The medical subspecialty of cardiology was created in 1940. Since then the number of cardiologists in the U.S. has grown from 500 in 1950 to 30,000 now

[Chickenbackside]

BASKET! Making me salivate man! [laugh] I'm nto much of a duck eater really, chicken, and rest best. Hey, did you "SEE"

Venison meat for sale? Got myself 2 packs again (remembered) Saturday, wah! Sunday cooked, heaven.

For once I make you salivate!

 

Saw but didn't buy. Dunno how to cook...

Edited September 27, 2010 by Chickenbackside

[Mazdaowner]

Yeah, but lau nuah only for a while niah.

Seriously, if you want, to know how to cook Venison, let me know,

it's a beautiful meat to cook, if done well....You'll be the one "lau how suay"

whenever the word "Venison" is mentioned. [laugh]

Cold weather, no need wear shirt sleep hor. :D

For once I make you salivate!

 

Saw but didn't buy. Dunno how to cook...

 

[Westender]

CBS, am reading this thread(60+ and counting) and think that I will give this diet a try since one leg already in the coffin.

Problem is doc say I have fatty liver(fra gras??), LDL around 160mg. ALT/AST/Gamma all 3x 4x the normal.

Pre-diabetes stage, fasting glucose around 160 or is it 180, can't remember(just hit the high limit).

 

Dun't really like to overwork myself, avg around 2x2km slow jog with 1x 20km~30km cycling per week.

 

Just wondering, how much fats am I suppose to take since I don't really exercise that much and don't intent to increase my exercise?

With all the fats I'll be eating, will my fra gras be top quality fats laden and thereby speed up my process of getting my the other leg over the coffin?

 

I'm not too concern about loosing weight and superman fitness, well loosing some weight along the way is totally alright for me.

It's more like getting my body back to it's healthy state.

Will this dieting help?

 

Vital stats

165cm short

71kg and counting

No smoking since 3 yrs back(GREATEST achivement to date!!!)

Edited September 28, 2010 by Westender

[Crystal_tiong]

Just got my blood test report

 

Glucose 5.5

Lipid panel 5.80

Triglycerides 0.68

Hdl-c 1.12

LDL-c 4.37 doc wan me to take medicine n reduce it ! I told him wan to try my new diet first.

 

Bp is 110/70.

 

How ?

[Nolicense]

Westender, keep reading.. all your questions will be answered. your doc say a lot of main stream stuff that is not scientifically correct. some people on this diet don;t even exercise and got healthier than all the "healthy" eating they were told by the doc and "health food" companies..

 

keep reading bro.

[Xtrocious]

CBS, am reading this thread(60+ and counting) and think that I will give this diet a try since one leg already in the coffin.

Problem is doc say I have fatty liver(fra gras??), LDL around 160mg. ALT/AST/Gamma all 3x 4x the normal.

Pre-diabetes stage, fasting glucose around 160 or is it 180, can't remember(just hit the high limit).

 

Dun't really like to overwork myself, avg around 2x2km slow jog with 1x 20km~30km cycling per week.

 

Just wondering, how much fats am I suppose to take since I don't really exercise that much and don't intent to increase my exercise?

With all the fats I'll be eating, will my fra gras be top quality fats laden and thereby speed up my process of getting my the other leg over the coffin?

 

I'm not too concern about loosing weight and superman fitness, well loosing some weight along the way is totally alright for me.

It's more like getting my body back to it's healthy state.

Will this dieting help?

 

Vital stats

165cm short

71kg and counting

No smoking since 3 yrs back(GREATEST achivement to date!!!)

 

You should read my recent experience...

 

I was in bed (on my couch) for 2 whole weeks (absolutely no exercise - didn't even go out of my house for the first 10 days)...

 

I lost 2.5kg over the period, but if you count the 2kg I put in the first week because I act "smart" by cutting back on my food/fats intake, I actually lost a total of 4.5kg

 

Yes, 4.5kg by doing nothing but watch TV and surf the Internet on my iPad

 

[Piyopico]

CBS, am reading this thread(60+ and counting) and think that I will give this diet a try since one leg already in the coffin.

Problem is doc say I have fatty liver(fra gras??), LDL around 160mg. ALT/AST/Gamma all 3x 4x the normal.

Pre-diabetes stage, fasting glucose around 160 or is it 180, can't remember(just hit the high limit).

 

Dun't really like to overwork myself, avg around 2x2km slow jog with 1x 20km~30km cycling per week.

 

Just wondering, how much fats am I suppose to take since I don't really exercise that much and don't intent to increase my exercise?

With all the fats I'll be eating, will my fra gras be top quality fats laden and thereby speed up my process of getting my the other leg over the coffin?

 

I'm not too concern about loosing weight and superman fitness, well loosing some weight along the way is totally alright for me.

It's more like getting my body back to it's healthy state.

Will this dieting help?

 

Vital stats

165cm short

71kg and counting

No smoking since 3 yrs back(GREATEST achivement to date!!!)

 

YES. This diet will help!!!

 

Read the rest of the pages please. Itz gonna change your life.

 

 

 

 

 

[Chickenbackside]

CBS, am reading this thread(60+ and counting) and think that I will give this diet a try since one leg already in the coffin.

Problem is doc say I have fatty liver(fra gras??), LDL around 160mg. ALT/AST/Gamma all 3x 4x the normal.

Pre-diabetes stage, fasting glucose around 160 or is it 180, can't remember(just hit the high limit).

 

Dun't really like to overwork myself, avg around 2x2km slow jog with 1x 20km~30km cycling per week.

 

Just wondering, how much fats am I suppose to take since I don't really exercise that much and don't intent to increase my exercise?

With all the fats I'll be eating, will my fra gras be top quality fats laden and thereby speed up my process of getting my the other leg over the coffin?

 

I'm not too concern about loosing weight and superman fitness, well loosing some weight along the way is totally alright for me.

It's more like getting my body back to it's healthy state.

Will this dieting help?

 

Vital stats

165cm short

71kg and counting

No smoking since 3 yrs back(GREATEST achivement to date!!!)

Hi Westender.

 

Every one of your concerns, issues, and I dare say your future questions have been addressed in the thread many times over, complete with studies, peer reviewed articles...etc. Do spend the time and effort going through not only the thread posts, but also all the links that have been posted. They empower you with knowledge and power to optimise your health is every way.

 

Again, this is a concise guide that addresses everything, even the type of exercise:

 

http://www.paleonu.com/get-started/

 

Listen to podcast number 22. It spells out the why's this way of eating works: http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/primal-bod...dio/id385416862

 

This is NOT a diet. It is a lifestyle. If you want to live long and healthy, you have to do this for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. Otherwise, it's just another diet where after you have reached your goals, you go back to your old ways. Pretty pointless.

 

This is the way we, as a species, have eaten and moved for millions of years. When we started to mess with food, that's where our health started to go downhill. So we must go back to eating whole natural foods. If you can't kill it, pluck it or dig it out of the ground, don't put it in your mouth.

 

After reading through 60+ pages, it should be very clear that eating fat does not make you fat. It has nothing to do with the fat that is stored in your body. Go to the library and dig up any biochemistry textbook and read up on the topic of body fat storage.

 

I quote The Textbook of Medical Physiology:

 

"All body fat is made from glucose"

 

It did not say, some body fat. It did not say a tiny little bit of body fat. It did not say 1/2 the body fat.

 

It said ALL body fat is made from glucose.

 

What is glucose? It is sugar. What breaks down into sugar the minute it touches your tongue? Carbohydrates. Especially refined carbohydrates.

 

One friend of mine lost 50kg with ZERO exercise by just cutting out sugar and grains. My other friends who added exercise on top of eating right look like models.

 

Eat right, and health and a good looking body will follow.

 

Again, go through the thread slowly. Absorb everything, especially all the articles and links provided. They literally give you power.

Edited September 28, 2010 by Chickenbackside

[Chickenbackside]

Just got my blood test report

 

Glucose 5.5

Lipid panel 5.80

Triglycerides 0.68

Hdl-c 1.12

LDL-c 4.37 doc wan me to take medicine n reduce it ! I told him wan to try my new diet first.

 

Bp is 110/70.

 

How ?

I need to convert.

 

Fasting blood glucose: 99mg/dL -- high end of normal (75-99)

 

Triglycerides: 60mg/dL -- pretty good, sign of low carb eating

 

HDL ("good" cholesterol): 43mg/dL -- low, double this would be good

 

LDL ("bad" cholesterol):169mg/dL -- high defined by western medicine, irrelevant to me unless it is measured directly and separated into specific LDL particle sizes.

 

Triglycerides/HDL: 1.39 -- good, anything below 2 is good, the lower the less risk of atherosclerosis. Strive to get it down to 0.5 or less.

 

I'm no doc. But I would not touch a statin drug (the medicine that your doc wants to put you on). It has never been proven to do anything for women, and the side effects are potentially horrific.

 

 

 

 

[Chickenbackside]

Very interesting article:

 

http://ryan-koch.blogspot.com/2010/03/adul...-expansion.html

 

 

Adult Palate Expansion

 

 

I am deformed. I look nothing like my ancestors. As a child, I had braces. I was a frequent mouth breather. At age 16, I said bye to my wisdom teeth. I have only 24 teeth left. My dental palate is not broad and sweeping; my jaw isn't square; my nasal passage isn't wide. I'm a human being raised on a processed food diet, and this is the result. When I first read Weston A. Price's book, Nutrtion and Physical Degeneration, it was hard to find out that I'm not developmentally optimal. I thought, "Well, crud, there's yet another thing that's wrong with me that can't be fixed." I began comparing photos of myself as a child with some of the photos from Price's book. Here's me next to a traditional Swiss gal:

 

 

 

 

See the lack of resemblance? Check out the overall roundness of the Swiss girl compared to my more narrowed facial structure. Compare my nasal passage to hers. Cheek bones? Jaw? And, wow, how about them teeth! This isn't due to genetics, as many of you know. It's all about nutrition during the developmental years, as Price discovered. Damn you, margarine, sugar, and white flour!

 

The other day I was thinking about how it might feel the have the facial features characteristic of the healthy cultures in Weston Price's studies as opposed to the narrow palate, brace-straightened teeth, weak jaw, narrowed nasal passage, and lackluster cheek bones that characterize my own facial structure. If I were all of the sudden blessed with an optimal facial structure and all the teeth the good Lord intended me to have, would I breath easier? Speak better? Smile more fully and more often? Have less tension in my jaws? Feel a heightened sense of well-being? While it's interesting -- if not somewhat depressing -- to imagine such a possibility, I never thought once that this would ever be achievable. I guess you can say that's why I've come to terms with my deformed self. I can't change it, can I? What other choice do I have besides acceptance of my not-so-optimal lot in life? Sigh.

 

I was impressed by a study about two twins recently referenced in Wise Traditions, the Weston A. Price Foundation journal. One twin received palatal expansion, while the other did not. Here's a photo that shows the dramatic difference in the two -- not just in their teeth, but their overall facial structure:

 

 

 

 

 

Impressive, eh? It's readily apparent that dental appliances can make a huge difference towards regaining the facial structure of our ancestors. But I'm far beyond the developmental time period during which such devices can help me attain a facial appearance closer to that of the human genetic blueprint, right? These things only work for the growing child or teenager. At age 18, the bone plates are fused, and there's no budging them. Once you're an adult, there's no room for any adjustments, right? Well, I began to wonder: Is there such a thing as adult palatal expansion? And, if so, would it make any difference health-wise if I were to apply such technology to my own head? Let's just find out. (Google, you are my friend.)

 

The first website I came across, called Facial Development, is absolutely fascinating. It's authored by Theodore R. Belfor, DDS, who has a clinic in New York state that actually specializes in expanding adult palates using a dental appliance called a Homeoblock. From his website:

 

The Homeoblock

[Chickenbackside]

Dr Michael Eades writes:

 

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins...ical-ignorance/

 

 

The pitiful state of medical ignorance

 

 

In 1976 the classic film Network starred Peter Finch as crazed anchorman Howard Beale who launched into his now-famous rant

[Chickenbackside]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/justin-stone...8_b_720398.html

 

 

America: A Big, Fat, Stupid Nation

 

 

America, I love you. Sure, you've had your naughty moments, but what country hasn't? Ultimately, I believe your filthy, battered heart is in the right place. This particular Irishman gazes over the ocean, happy to dream your dream.

 

Yet, the title staring down at you is said as 'fact'. Disagree? OK, good, then let us begin...

 

Latest figures confirm the ridiculous: three out of four of you will be 'overweight or obese' by 2020. To gauge perspective: there are now more 'fat' people than 'white' people in America. Perhaps our bigots of the future will swing their hatred away from 'race' to the slim and healthy.

 

The shrinking minority are, indeed, the shrinking minority.

 

Stupid? Welcome to a population who know less about what they put into their mouths than they do about, well, take your pick...celebrities or cars or American Idol or iPhones? Animals have the intelligence to know what to eat and to never get fat (except the ones fed by humans). Yet that simple challenge, gaining nourishment without destroying the body, is beyond your capabilities?

 

Perhaps this crime is forgivable, purely symptomatic of the dietary 'misinformation' in circulation. However, the truly unforgivable stupidity has been in allowing this misinformation to propagate. To have believed the lies, to have fallen for the tricks, to have remained oblivious to the motives. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

 

"Insanity," declared Einstein. "Is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." Was the sharp little man predicting your strategy against the impending obesity epidemic? Thirty years of repeating the same mistakes. Not just failing to halt the crisis, but actually exacerbating it.

 

And the new plan today? Fundamentally, it is identical. Michelle Obama's current, corporate-led, child obesity campaign scores 100% on well meaning -- and 0% on wholesale change. All that matters, what you are told to put in your mouth, is aligned to the same destructive, corporate-sponsored dietary doctrine. I apologize for my original accusation America, this is not stupidity -- it is insanity.

 

Einstein is no longer around to identify and solve your problems. However, a little-known Welsh obesity researcher, Zoe Harcombe, may be the surprising, next-best hope for salvation. For the last six months, I have been peeling through the twenty years of obesity research that she has accumulated. Some insight will be shared in her upcoming publication 'The Obesity Epidemic'. If you want to know why you're fat, and who wants to keep you that way, I suggest you head to the Welsh valleys and plead with her for a little chat.

 

From an informed perspective, let me shine a little light...

 

Americans (still) rule the world. They can stroll on the moon, influence global diplomacy, finance unstable countries around the world...yet they cannot keep their own people relatively healthy? Of course they could, if it were actually desired. Unfortunately, for the world's most powerful companies, an unhealthy America is, perversely, a very profitable America.

 

If I own a sock company, I need people with feet to maintain my business. Similarly, if I own a diet company (total combined U.S. industry value: est. $45-$100 billion), I need fat people. Luckily for the diet industry, the even more powerful food industry (estimated value: astronomical -- U.S. food-based retailing alone >$1,200 billion) make their main profits from cheap processed foods. Foods which make people fat.

 

The medical industry is similarly grateful -- the unhealthy obese are as vital for their profit margins as oil is to the oil business. And we've seen what happens when the oil industry has their supply stream compromised.

 

So, if industries (with a combined net worth and power exceeding many actual countries), need a vital supply chain to survive, we can safely say that they will probably work out how to get it.

 

They need fat people. So what do they do?

 

People in America like to think that they eat with freedom. Ultimately, however, they can only pick what is presented to them, and what they can afford. Then, the decision is based on what they believe to be healthy, tasty and safe. With that in mind, can you imagine how great it would be for the industries mentioned above, if dietary advice given could be contained and restricted to just one organization that they could pour money into? That scenario is not just some North Koreanesque wet dream. It is USA 2010.

 

The ADA (American Dietetic Association) has complete monopoly on dietary advice. To keep the bubble airtight, the full might of the law has even been implemented. Kim Jong-il would be proud of the attention to detail.

 

Staggeringly, in 46 out of 50 States, the message the authorities want you to have is protected. The law determines who is able to provide you with nutritional advice.

 

The Commission on Dietetic Registration is the credentializing agency for the ADA. A practicing dietician not registered with the ADA or CDR is liable to face prosecution in over 90% of the country.

 

With that in mind, who precisely is 'sponsoring' the ADA and the nutritional advice you receive?

 

My friends, it is a beautiful army. Partners (recent and current -- and their latest annual revenue figures):

 

Coca Cola (revenue $31.4 billion), GlaxoSmithKline (revenue $42.5 billion), Hershey's (revenue $5.3 billion), Unilever (revenue $55.8 billion), Aramark (revenue: $12.3 billion). There are even some 'premier sponsors': Mars (revenue: $30 billion), PepsiCo (revenue $44.3 billion), Truvia sweetener (revenue of parent company Cargill: $116.6 billion), Kellogg's ($12.7 billion).

ADA 'sponsors' have combined revenues of over $400 billion.

 

Why are these gargantuan companies -- whose only intention is to make money, not make you healthy -- allowed to fund the ADA?

 

The ADA themselves can perhaps assist us. On their own website (in the section where they are trying to seduce corporate America), they offer a helping hand:

 

Why Become an ADA Sponsor?

 

As ADA past president Martin Yadrick stated in a 2008 US News & World Report article: "We think it's important for us to be at the same table with food companies because of the positive influence that we can have on them."

 

But, Martin, darling, they are paying you to be at their table. You are publicly telling America that you are somehow the one wearing the trousers in the relationship? My headline must be correct -- even the ADA seem to think that America is stupid.

 

So, with the system in place, what would be the ideal message that corporate America could choose to create to strengthen their businesses?

 

If you want to know when (and how) the obesity epidemic started, you do not need a degree in science to understand the details. Just a simple little line, that a child could understand, will tell you all you need to know.

 

Have a look at the graph below. Notice the steady line for decades and then the upward leap from 1977 onwards?

 

 

What strange event happened in 1977? Elvis died; perhaps the aliens who took him started to replace his fellow Americans with clones of fat, singing, hamburger-addicts? The truth is no less remarkable.

 

In 1977 America changed its health advice. In a nutshell (or, more likely, an ADA approved Mars bar): Eat more starchy foods, eat more carbohydrates, saturated fats are bad. If that sounds like pretty good advice to you, then you don't know enough about what you are putting into your mouth.

 

Your grandparents were raised in a generation aware that God's supermarket was better than man's. Saturated fat was a vital part of their diet. For them, obesity was not a common health problem. They were not suffering malnutrition in the fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E and K). Remarkably, you, dear Western reader, probably are.

 

A processed product with 'zero fat' stamped on it (invariably high in sugar, chemicals and carbs instead) is great for making profits, but useless for losing weight. Wreaking havoc with insulin and your body's biochemistry is not clever. The majority of the western world now do so on a daily basis.

 

If you want to have some fun with graphs, you can go and look at the corresponding obesity spikes in other countries when they followed the 1977 change in US advice.

 

In Canada, the point was near-parallel. In Britain it happened in 1983. The Australians struck around the time of the Brits, launching their magically stupid 'Health Pyramid'. The obesity rate in each territory began its steady ascent. Big fat corporate party time.

 

Your commercially sponsored weight loss advice is making you gain weight. It would be laughable, a comic irony, if the consequences were not so tragic. From diabetes to obesity to cancer to heart disease, the price being paid for corporate profit is in lives.

 

It is not up to me to tell you the science; research that yourself. Do it thoroughly, the corruption and manipulation of facts is on a far greater, more shocking scale than the story I have detailed so far.

 

Look at the true details of the Keys' 'Seven Countries' study. How the food industry have used it to falsely demonize fats and change global policies. How we have been lied to about the relevance of calories. How the false 'crimes of cholesterol' can be simply resolved by picking up a globe and looking at the proximity to the equator of the 'Seven Countries' involved in the study.

 

Educate yourself and spot the lies that your trusted sources are feeding you. Alarmingly, few supposed 'experts' are free from bias. Including many learned figures who try to voice opinion on this great site. Do not ever underestimate the power of industry and the corrupting influence of money. People have vested interests and through intent, ignorance (or a dangerous combination of both), preach some unforgivable lies.

 

This issue is about money. This issue is about race. Obesity in black Americans is 50% higher than that of white Americans. Obesity in Hispanics is 25% higher than that of white Americans.

 

Obesity rates are highest in the poor - they are the ones who rely on cheap processed foods to feed their families.

 

The poor, carb-addicted fatties make the thin, rich shareholders very happy.

 

America is, of course, no more 'stupid' than other nations. Across the western world, nutritional advice has been polluted by the omnipotent corporations who profit from ill health. However, USA, the world looks to you for a guiding light.

 

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. Spot the devil. Uncover the scientific facts about fat and carbohydrates. Stand up for the truth. Or stay big, stay fat and stay stupid.

[Crystal_tiong]

Bro CBS

 

I am so happy to hear from you !

You know , i was upset when the doc insisted me to take medicine to control my LDL . And he stressed that i must eat less fats , take low fat milk , blah blah etc ....

I just told him I wan to try my diet (lifestyle) first .

I cant imagine i have to take long time medicine from age of 30s !