Hailun baby grand piano

[Ray7456]

The tuning part is unavoidable i think. Its an incidental part of owning a piano. Even if we get other brands the piano still needs to be tuned. So the buy-back is reli attractive. May I just ask what happen after 5 years. Would the buy back % drop on a per year after that, say 40% if sell in year 6 & 30% is year 7 and so on...

[Little_prince]

Hijack the topic a little....

 

What's the advisable age to bring the little ones to piano lesson? As early as 2 yrs old?

 

yours just born right... dont so kia su lah... hahahaha

[Enye]

My suggestion is to send to music class e.g. little notes @ 2 years old or JMC @ 4 years old.

 

Group classes incorporating singing, dancing and playing keyboard with parent participation will kindle the music interest in children and also help you to bond with your child.

 

My experience with individual lessons is that if the teacher cannot arouse the child's interest, the interest will die off in double quick time.

[Fishy]

hijack the thread: any good places to recommend for 2nd hand made in japan yamaha?

[JumpySpeedFiend]

You bought a HL 125 too? How long did you have it?

 

Yes, the tuning has to be done by the shop. But the cost is not different from any other tuner.

 

Yup it for close to half a year now, hence would be calling the shop to arrange for 2nd tunning which is free. Only the 3rd tunning is chargable and I think the rate is reasonable.

 

When I was shopping for it back then, the choice was pretty clear after I dropped by the shop at Paya Lebar. Prior to that, I have been to Yamaha and roughly know what I can get with a 3.5k budget. That Yamaha model (UJ???) simply is no match for HL125, in terms of build and sound quality.

 

[Enye]

I think you bought your piano a few years ago right?

 

If you were out shopping now, you would probably have bought HL instead of PR.

 

Incidentally I also went to see PR but was more impressed with HL at the same budget of course.

[Madsumm]

Go for US5 Yamaha, Upright grand..

 

Anyway, I mostly tested grand and baby grands now.

Good pianos appreciate in value.

Unfortunately, in Singapore, weather forbids such that it can be "well" taken care of. Unless you put it in super dry and cool environment.

 

I have a heart more for used as the touch and the "run in" sound doesn't change much and its character is predictable.

Most new pianos does suffer initial deterioration in regards to sound (or change in character). Furthermore, for a heavy player like me, it will take like years for the the touch to "run in" nicely and evenly, whereas a proper used one is already ran in on your behalf.

 

Like I said, its difficult to find a gem of a used piano here actually. If you do, you are damn lucky.

[JumpySpeedFiend]

hijack the thread: any good places to recommend for 2nd hand made in japan yamaha?

 

You might want to try Piano Master, the shop that carries Hailun. Compare the used Yamaha and Hailun side by side.

 

I know Chinese brands don't usually instill confidence but I strongly suggest that you give Hailun a chance.

[Enye]

I fully agree. Cannot compare JU 109 and HL 125. Only price is similar.

[Madsumm]

Frankly, in Yamaha upright range, only the YUS5 impresses.

Grand, C3 impresses me with its nice mellow mids and even touch.

Sorry about this.

 

For Kawai, please... go try the Shigerus.

[Enye]

You might want to try Piano Master, the shop that carries Hailun. Compare the used Yamaha and Hailun side by side.

 

I know Chinese brands don't usually instill confidence but I strongly suggest that you give Hailun a chance.

 

While you are there, you can go to Jesley piano which is in the next block on the second floor. They carry many used pianos imported or traded in.

[Ray7456]

I think pple dun favour reconditioned piano. They prefer those direct from Japan but are still in good condition. However, these pianos are easily more than 10 years old. On the other hand, you may try your luck at music schools. Some parents are updrading their pianos for their kids and if you are lucky you can get from them.

[Fishy]

You might want to try Piano Master, the shop that carries Hailun. Compare the used Yamaha and Hailun side by side.

 

I know Chinese brands don't usually instill confidence but I strongly suggest that you give Hailun a chance.

 

 

you mean this http://www.pianomaster.com.sg/

 

i was told Yamaha pianos offer some buy back value aftr a few years, does this china brand offer the same?

im no expert in piano but my wife is looking to buy 1 so i am sourcing for 1 now

[Fishy]

I think pple dun favour reconditioned piano. They prefer those direct from Japan but are still in good condition. However, these pianos are easily more than 10 years old. On the other hand, you may try your luck at music schools. Some parents are updrading their pianos for their kids and if you are lucky you can get from them.

 

 

whats the story with reconditioned piano? can share? we are looking at a 2nd hand yamaha or even 3rd hand if it is in good condition and within our budget

[JumpySpeedFiend]

you mean this http://www.pianomaster.com.sg/

 

i was told Yamaha pianos offer some buy back value aftr a few years, does this china brand offer the same?

im no expert in piano but my wife is looking to buy 1 so i am sourcing for 1 now

 

Yup, that's the one.

 

As mentioned in earlier post, yes, they take back the Hailun piano at 50%, as long as you maintain the tuning sessions with them.

[Ray7456]

If you are buying new from Yamaha, their buy back condition is that you will have to upgrade your piano and they will allow you to trade-in your existing one. Else they do not have buy back scheme and they dun take in your "used" piano.

 

As to the recondition part, see "Enyu's" comment in earlier post.

[Genie47]

HL damn bang for buck for the sound quality it has. In that price range, Yamaha has a lot of trouble competing with it.

 

More people must know of the HL brand and I hope that HL will continue to adhere to the standards set out by their founder.

[Ferraricalifornia]

piano's can even be used for an investment....well to say the least,

 

you gotta buy a high end upright grand to fall into this category....

 

based on past experience, my parents bought an entry level 'Made-In-Indonesia' Yamaha piano@$1800 when i first started out....it was good for 6yrs, when we wanted to 'trade-in' for a rental piano, the price was good at $800 from a reseller (the shop only offered $400)....

 

when it came to my Grade 8 exam (i skipped grade 2 and 4 and 7), the rental piano came into good use....it was around 15yrs old, the first owner bought at $8,500 upright grand, sold it after so many years for $6,500....and that can be considered as an investment right??? haha.....

 

the longer the age of the piano, the better the touch of the keys because it's more seasoned....

 

my advise is keep the 1st cheap basic piano till the child reaches Grade 5/6, then from there see whether the child chooses to carry on learning piano, then upgrade from there.....

 

otherwise, it's really money thrown down the drain....