Cerano 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 Have you bought big ticket items before? Your last statement/question shows that you probably have not, or did not read the contract/s. Singapore is known for its good judiciary system. i most definitely have. i think you misunderstood me. let me put it this way. what would happen if this were to happen in the states instead then ^^ ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unltd 5th Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 I wanna believe...but looking at this avatar... Hello, that was my before Plastic Surgery picture ok! Now I sibei chio . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icyfreakass 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 Eh bro, now im really interested . Expose his pm-s! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unltd 5th Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 Eh bro, now im really interested . Expose his pm-s! You sure I am a bro anot?! Maybe I am blonde bimbo with big tits or worse... I am my avatar leh? I will not disclose unless he sends me another PM la, pretty useless egging me on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewlai Neutral Newbie April 12, 2010 Author Share April 12, 2010 Its secret lah..how can send .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icyfreakass 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 Your dp is a bro what. You like that say, he wont pm u and we wont get to know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfmun Neutral Newbie April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 i most definitely have. i think you misunderstood me. let me put it this way. what would happen if this were to happen in the states instead then ^^ Sorry. I misunderstood. I think the way ADs do their sales would not be acceptable in the States. The Fair Trade Act and others would have been a boon to consumers. Even the Rule of 78 has been outlawed in at least 11 states, IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 Sorry. I misunderstood. I think the way ADs do their sales would not be acceptable in the States. The Fair Trade Act and others would have been a boon to consumers. Even the Rule of 78 has been outlawed in at least 11 states, IIRC. true true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrocious 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 exactly my point bro. customer service is when the idea of helping/pleasing your customer goes beyond a norm. if you think OCBC so concerned bout losses would they give free food/beverages to ANYONE that walks in? if you wanna look at everything from a black/white POV then its all very clear but what has happened to customer rights ^^ then again do customer rights even exist in singapore? OCBC is not a CHARITY my friend You think they are doing it for free? These are marketing campaigns and they cost money... Trust me, it's very concerned about costs... Sorry but you can't plead ignorance when it is a very simple open and shut case...either guaranteed or non-guaranteed COE packages Those who booked the latter chose to gamble on the COE prices falling even though you yourself mentioned that everyone (no need degree was your phrase) knows that the COE prices are going up... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrocious 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 i most definitely have. i think you misunderstood me. let me put it this way. what would happen if this were to happen in the states instead then ^^ But we are not in the states now are we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrocious 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 Sorry. I misunderstood. I think the way ADs do their sales would not be acceptable in the States. The Fair Trade Act and others would have been a boon to consumers. Even the Rule of 78 has been outlawed in at least 11 states, IIRC. I am sorry but if you study business - you will know that all these Fair Trade Acts and whatnots did to the business cost and more often than not, they are included in the sales price... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 OCBC is not a CHARITY my friend You think they are doing it for free? These are marketing campaigns and they cost money... Trust me, it's very concerned about costs... Sorry but you can't plead ignorance when it is a very simple open and shut case...either guaranteed or non-guaranteed COE packages Those who booked the latter chose to gamble on the COE prices falling even though you yourself mentioned that everyone (no need degree was your phrase) knows that the COE prices are going up... yea definitely not ignorance i do not deny that its a very simple case and it can be that way. however, is BM going the extra mile to help its customers with a middle solution? Arent they just hiding behind their T&Cs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 But we are not in the states now are we? oh the land of cheap cars and even cheaper gas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewlai Neutral Newbie April 12, 2010 Author Share April 12, 2010 Basically the point we are trying to make it simply that BM took in more orders than it could fulfill....BM knew about the quota cuts but chose to keep on taking in orders....this is very unethical.... The CNY promotion was essentially a gimmick to draw in customers...they had no intention of fulfilling ALL the contracts..proof? Look at the number of dis-satisfied customers.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrocious 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 (edited) yea definitely not ignorance i do not deny that its a very simple case and it can be that way. however, is BM going the extra mile to help its customers with a middle solution? Arent they just hiding behind their T&Cs? Then they went in with EYES WIDE OPEN correct? Lagi no case And if that extra mile means losing hundreds of thousands of dollars, the company can't answer to their shareholders... This is reality A contract is a contract is a contract - otherwise, why even bother? Imagine you sign a job contract with your employer and then on a whim, they choose to ignore the terms in your contract - would you be happy? Similarly, that same contract can also be used to protect the buyer - if the AD fails to deliver, they have breached the contract and the buyer can initiate legal means (if necessarily) to enforce the contract... Edited April 12, 2010 by Xtrocious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerano 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 Then they went in with EYES WIDE OPEN correct? Lagi no case And if that extra mile means losing hundreds of thousands of dollars, the company can't answer to their shareholders... This is reality A contract is a contract is a contract - otherwise, why even bother? Imagine you sign a job contract with your employer and then on a whim, they choose to ignore the terms in your contract - would you be happy? Similarly, that same contract can also be used to protect the buyer - if the AD fails to deliver, they have breached the contract and the buyer can initiate legal means (if necessarily) to enforce the contract... unfortunately for us consumers, who drafts the contracts what did CASE boss say about contracts ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrocious 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 unfortunately for us consumers, who drafts the contracts what did CASE boss say about contracts ? What can the toothless tiger do? :angry: So who cares what the boss said... In the end, no one is forcing the buyer to sign on a contract which he deems is unfair to him... He can walk away... Otherwise, he agrees with the terms and conditions when he puts his signature on the dotted line... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLing 1st Gear April 12, 2010 Share April 12, 2010 But some customers have been known to specify that they do not want their cars to be registered with open cat COEs... and this, I suppose, is because they are afraid that the value of the open Cat COE is lower than that prevailing quote premium of their category? I think someone somewhere metioned that an open cat COE is usually more expensive but when it is used, it depends on which is lower. The COE system is created by LTA. THe g'teed & non-g'teed packages are created (& abused) by the dealers. I am interested to know whether most people here prefer a ban on car dealers bidding on behalf of the buyer and whether you are a dealer or buyer? Would you car dealers rather not be burdened with having to bid on behalf of the buyer? Remember that the average car buyer doesn't keep up with the fine print of the COE system because he/she only buys a car every 7 - 10 years. it's only when you get cheated that you start trying to get a crash course. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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