My Red Devil

[Karnaugh]

In order to see your horses, you need RPMs in your car, and to do that, you'd have to be on your hot cam. If you're not on the hot cam, its a dog, and when you're driving normally you can't access that power easily. You either floor it and wait, or you downshift to bring the revs up.

 

Whereas a car with more torque can just step on the accelerator and off it goes, to merge into the traffic, or take advantage of an overtaking opportunity.

 

Turbocharged cars have the same torque hole as you have in your FD2R, except the reason for theirs is turbo lag.

 

That's why people say diesel cabs are fast. They aren't exactly that fast 0-100kph, they don't have big horsepower, they just have a lot of torque, which manifests itself especially in rolling acceleration.

 

You understand power delivery well bro. But i just want to hear what guru Minikong has to say.

[Karnaugh]

You chiet them for lunch, dinner and breakfast..

 

Anyway, very impress with the type r after seeing them in sepang.. The Jdm one.

 

I wouldn't dare to say chiet but win them by a small margin rather.

 

 

[Minikong]

You understand power delivery well bro. But i just want to hear what guru Minikong has to say.

 

 

i am not a guru, and i am a p plate.

ppl driving mcs can pay 6k just to get 5 more torque out of the car. and i have driven it myself and compare the difference. with just that little torque more, i can already feel the difference.

[Strong]

Friend,in singapore.Anything from 0-90 you need torque,anything from 90 to 180 onwards,you need balls.

 

 

[Karnaugh]

i am not a guru, and i am a p plate.

ppl driving mcs can pay 6k just to get 5 more torque out of the car. and i have driven it myself and compare the difference. with just that little torque more, i can already feel the difference.

 

I see. The basis for your argument is butt dyno. Enough said.

 

 

 

[Phluvcat]

He kena con by SE,come here try to con us.Don't blame him lah 1.5L lancer 124Bhp?Even honda can't do it for their 1.5 City,Mitsu overtook Honda?

 

got lah...Honda 3-stage VTEC in the EK3 Civic, about 130hp, but that's way back in the nineties...hahaha

[Itsec]

got lah...Honda 3-stage VTEC in the EK3 Civic, about 130hp, but that's way back in the nineties...hahaha

that sohc 3 stage is rare .. dont think sg got.. the power ones are the dohc vtec

Edited October 27, 2010 by Itsec

[Phluvcat]

mai anyhow hoot lah... since when ek3 is dohc?

 

wah lan eh, since when I say its dohc, its sohc...

 

dohc is big bro ek4

 

but compare this 1.5 sohc with the AT version of 1.6 dohc, its almost on par.

[Itsec]

wah lan eh, since when I say its dohc, its sohc...

 

dohc is big bro ek4

 

but compare this 1.5 sohc with the AT version of 1.6 dohc, its almost on par.

 

 

lol.. paisei... i type then realise... wrong.. hence make the changes...

 

the D series was implemented similar to the 2nd generation City.. and also have similarities to the L series 12/16 valve vtec City... but lighter as compare to D series which is kinda of 'bulky'... but in our 'city' forum we only call 1 stage vtec or 12v/16v vtec...

Edited October 27, 2010 by Itsec

[Phluvcat]

lol.. paisei... i type then realise... wrong.. hence make the changes...

 

the D series was implemented similar to the 2nd generation City.. and also have similarities to the L series 12/16 valve vtec City... but lighter as compare to D series which is kinda of 'bulky'... but in our 'city' forum we only call 1 stage vtec or 12v/16v vtec...

 

not so sure about the City...for EK3 its 12V/16V (~3000rpm)/VTEC (~5500rpm) activated by 2 VTEC actuators or solenoids. City is VTEC or iVTEC? tried City manual version before, also nice to drive.

 

EK3 not as crazy compared to EK4 but its still a fun car, depends on how you drive, fc can range from 12 plus to 16 plus km/l ler...

 

how I know ah? me driving one, those are real life statistics...still got quite a few on our roads lah.

 

for me, as long as its MT, anything goes...hahaha

[Itsec]

not so sure about the City...for EK3 its 12V/16V (~3000rpm)/VTEC (~5500rpm) activated by 2 VTEC actuators or solenoids. City is VTEC or iVTEC? tried City manual version before, also nice to drive.

 

EK3 not as crazy compared to EK4 but its still a fun car, depends on how you drive, fc can range from 12 plus to 16 plus km/l ler...

 

how I know ah? me driving one, those are real life statistics...still got quite a few on our roads lah.

 

for me, as long as its MT, anything goes...hahaha

 

i'm refer to City vtec.. and been ripped off for high rpm ours only 12v/16v (~3500rpm) but ability to activate much early (~2.2krpm) if floor from stationary

 

manual is around 15km/l and auto 13-14km/l (assuming stock cond.)

Edited October 27, 2010 by Itsec

[Phluvcat]

i'm refer to City vtec.. and been ripped off for high rpm ours only 12v/16v (~3500rpm) but ability to activate much early (~2.2krpm) if floor from stationary

 

manual is around 15km/l and auto 13-14km/l (assuming stock cond.)

 

huh? you talking about 4th gen City? if its 12v/16v means no vtec, or wild cam?

 

for EK3, the first actuation may or may not activated depending on the pressure applied to the pedal, so may go straight to 16v mode, but the second actuation is fixed at about 5500rpm ler.

 

by right, should not feel so much of a surge when VTEC kicks in, as its suppose to complement the engine at higher rpms. I guess when ppl say they feel a huge surge, probably vtec point adjusted.

 

 

[Itsec]

huh? you talking about 4th gen City? if its 12v/16v means no vtec, or wild cam?

 

for EK3, the first actuation may or may not activated depending on the pressure applied to the pedal, so may go straight to 16v mode, but the second actuation is fixed at about 5500rpm ler.

 

by right, should not feel so much of a surge when VTEC kicks in, as its suppose to complement the engine at higher rpms. I guess when ppl say they feel a huge surge, probably vtec point adjusted.

 

that's why very confusing on the so-called vtec 'theory' where L15 vtec is implemented based on principal but different....

 

check out this.. http://asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/lseries/

[Vinceng]

I dont understand talk of the town up north? u mean people are talking abt my ride??

 

Your car is the talk of the town as it is the new Proton Inspira /Waja in Malaysia.

 

Owners of Lancers up North have seen their resale value drop by RM25K on average.

[Phluvcat]

that's why very confusing on the so-called vtec 'theory' where L15 vtec is implemented based on principal but different....

 

check out this.. http://asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/lseries/

 

wah thanks for the article, learnt a bit more about my own car...

 

gum siah man...

[Itsec]

wah thanks for the article, learnt a bit more about my own car...

 

gum siah man...

 

no prob.. i like ek3 also.. hmm.. ek3 only comes with hatch? its quite a looker... never failed to go for a second look...

 

[N3ver]

you are right with the Lancer GT 2L 155BHP with no turbo.. no offence, but it's already quite slow.

 

but this fella over here with 109bhp or 124bhp (give u benefit of the doubt lah) Lancer EX 1.5 can talk so much c*ck about racing others.

 

like what MiniKong mentioned, win the sonata Taxis first.. haha

 

yup.Drove the Lancer Ex 1.5 once...accleration wise...can go head to head with avante...so doubt it'll win the Sonata Taxi.

 

 

[Phluvcat]

no prob.. i like ek3 also.. hmm.. ek3 only comes with hatch? its quite a looker... never failed to go for a second look...

 

got sedan one, outlook is the same as EK4 but EK4 got moonroof.

 

mine is the 96 version, not facelift one. facelift one more executive look.

 

i still retain the black strips, look ah pek...wahahaha...

 

decent car lah, good thing its manual and 7200 redline to compensate a bit of its small cc...nothing beats displacement, and in these days force induction...

 

duh...