Which Job to Choose?

[Baretooth]

Hi all bros, i have a close friend in his mid 30s who was in a dilemma on which new job to choose. He was very fortunate to get offer from 2 companies. i hope brothers here can give some advice so it can help him make a decision. The problem is he is married and has a 1 yr old son who will go with him for one of the job is he choose it. He has a few years of working experience in oversea.

 

Job A:

1) In singapore

2) Monthly pay ard 7K+

3) Pay is before tax

4) MNC

5) Company produce commercial product

 

 

Job B:

1) Oversea in china

2) Monthly pay including allowance is at least 30% more than job A

3) Pay is after tax

4) MNC

5) Semiconductor industry

 

 

The problem with his dilemma is over his son. He can work long term oversea but his son will be going to school in another 2 years and it will probably be difficult to find another new job in sg if he wants to come back by then. He wants his son to study in singapore and at the same time want to be beside his son while he is growing up.

Any comments and advice is appreciated.

 

 

 

[Maxus-MIFA9]

Which part of China?

 

There is an International School in China where lot of Singaporean child attend. Forget whether in Putong or Shanghai.

 

Since Job B has higher offer, got for it......

[Majordan]

1yr old son 'going to school' in another 2 yr? what the..?! playgroup is not school

 

why is the wife not in the equation?

 

which part of China?

 

if he likes China -> go for it

If he is indifferent -> go with the job that has most prospects

[Toyo]

His main concern has already helped him to decide job A

[SimonTan]

Well your friend has already made up his mind when he wished his son to study in Singapore.

Unless your friend is willing to quit before his son turns 7 and register primary1.

 

Five years is a long way to go........he might find a nice china wife for the son over there.

I say take the one with a higher pay! The 30% aka S$2100++ per month extra over five years....is like WOW...can buy a new car when he comes back and settle down for the son sake!! Not forgetting his properties here, rentals and value will also helped a lot towards the bank account!

 

 

[Baretooth]

He's going over to shanghai but will be moving again after some time to another part of china to setup a new plant. Prospect wise he told me it's about the same for both jobs as both are new setup of considerable size, although the one in china is much much bigger. Yes, the 30% is very tempting which make all the decision so hard!

[Kangadrool]

Must look at other perks also.

 

Shanghai is very expensive. Got house, maid, car cum driver (most important thing to have) thrown in anot?

Edited August 1, 2011 by Kangadrool

[Jman888]

Which part of China?

 

There is an International School in China where lot of Singaporean child attend. Forget whether in Putong or Shanghai.

 

Since Job B has higher offer, got for it......

 

 

i know you have been wanting to go china, got xiao san waiting for you [laugh]

[Porker]

30% extra for overseas posting is not alot really. Would have expected more.

[Jman888]

family is one main concern or THE main concern if he treasure his family.

 

worrying about coming home and couldn't get a job is also a valid concern which many are facing and end up going back cos companies hiring him only look at his overseas experience.

[Tigerwoods]

30% more and net pay is no big deal.

If overseas pay > 50% then go

lodging shd be provided, family go there also.

If wife now working then the Pay in China must compensate more for lost of imcome of wifey = 2X his SG pay...

[Baretooth]

i heard from him that nowadays quite difficult to find company that pay very good expatriate package, 30% + is considered not bad already. Now the decision to go or not to go is affected very much by his child as he wants his child to grow up in a singapore environment

[Kangadrool]

i heard from him that nowadays quite difficult to find company that pay very good expatriate package, 30% + is considered not bad already. Now the decision to go or not to go is affected very much by his child as he wants his child to grow up in a singapore environment

 

That's for those FTs coming to Singapore. No more hardship allowance since it is more enjoyable than their home countries.

 

For Singaporeans who's going over to China, India, and other 3rd world or developing countries, reckon it's fair to expect more "hardship" allowance.

 

Unless one is at the TOP TOP management, our salaries (those at middle mgmt, engineering/technical profession) are mostly quite depressed already at home. So, 30% more is nothing.

Edited August 1, 2011 by Kangadrool

[Whathefish]

A!! $ is not everything......staying in another country...might be stressful for family.....relocation, etc

[Jman888]

That's for those FTs coming to Singapore. No more hardship allowance since it is more enjoyable than their home countries.

 

For Singaporeans who's going over to China, India, and other 3rd world or developing countries, reckon it's fair to expect more "hardship" allowance.

 

Unless one is at the TOP TOP management, our salaries (those at middle mgmt, engineering/technical profession) are mostly quite depressed already at home. So, 30% more is nothing.

 

 

Shanghai is not kampong, where got hardship more like heaven [laugh]

[Jamstart]

For me, I will choose the first one as I will definitely miss my family and friends here. Money is not everything, happiness is. Imagine 7k per month, for an average family, this is quite alot liao. If you are oversea, you work and work, can expect spend lesser time with family.

[Porker]

i heard from him that nowadays quite difficult to find company that pay very good expatriate package, 30% + is considered not bad already. Now the decision to go or not to go is affected very much by his child as he wants his child to grow up in a singapore environment

 

30% is not good at all. It translates to $2100 extra. That is approx. $100 per day over 20 working days per month. Its the same or even less than what one will get as a daily allowance for overseas trips. That company B is stiffing him on his deal. I would think first option is the better one.

[Maroon5]

i feel both are in such different industries, is your fren in backend role? in my view, it seems taking job A can satisfy the son aspects. in terms of tax, 7k+/mth but w child allowances, i thk wont b much.