themagi Neutral Newbie August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 ""Some people still ask whether my long previous association with the PAP will stop me from acting independently. The answer is no. My loyalty is first and foremost, to the people of Singapore. It has always been so, and will always remain so" Ong Teng Cheong - August 1993, in his final election broadcast speech http://www.ongtengcheong.com/quotes.htm TJS' cynicism of former PAP members is valid, but not all former PAP members running for president is like TT. Ong Teng Cheong demonstrated that he could really be independent and a good president. History and the court of public opinion has decreed so. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 ""Some people still ask whether my long previous association with the PAP will stop me from acting independently. The answer is no. My loyalty is first and foremost, to the people of Singapore. It has always been so, and will always remain so" Ong Teng Cheong - August 1993, in his final election broadcast speech http://www.ongtengcheong.com/quotes.htm TJS' cynicism of former PAP members is valid, but not all former PAP members running for president is like TT. Ong Teng Cheong demonstrated that he could really be independent and a good president. History and the court of public opinion has decreed so. This is why I'm very much open to the candidacy of TCB and he is very likely to get my vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowel Clutched August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 TJS? Just a lot of hoo haa......trying hard to catch the attention. Buey tahan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagi Neutral Newbie August 21, 2011 Author Share August 21, 2011 This is why I'm very much open to the candidacy of TCB and he is very likely to get my vote. TCB doing well so far, his curry dinner today, his focus on multiracialism and football as the societal gell, his moderate stance on issues seen in the TOC presidential debate. His lame points are his kicking PMO out of Istana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagi Neutral Newbie August 21, 2011 Author Share August 21, 2011 TJS? Just a lot of hoo haa......trying hard to catch the attention. Buey tahan. He is not bad until he lost his temper. How to lose temper in TV debate in trying to win votes for a president who is calm composed presidential? Very score own goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 (edited) We know that 40% of the people will not vote for TT (and there's a chance they might vote for TCB) and the remaining 60% will be split between TT and TCB. With this fact, TCB stand a very high chance of winning the election. But throw TKL and TJS into the picture, the 40% votes will be split between the 3 Tans other than TT. With the scenario, it's almost certain TT will be the president. Good luck to us. Edited August 21, 2011 by Fcw75 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 We know that 40% of the people will not vote for TT (and there's a chance they might vote for TCB) and the remaining 60% will be split between TT and TCB. With this fact, TCB stand a very high chance of winning the election. But throw TKL and TJS into the picture, the 40% votes will be split between the 4 Tans other than TT. With the scenario, it's almost certain TT will be the president. Good luck to us. I think more or less the voters have expected this. But let's put our faith into our votes, we never know...a miracle might just happen. It might be that 1-2% which makes the winning margin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1668 Neutral Newbie August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 I think more or less the voters have expected this. But let's put our faith into our votes, we never know...a miracle might just happen. It might be that 1-2% which makes the winning margin. If that happen, someone will return to GIC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 TCB doing well so far, his curry dinner today, his focus on multiracialism and football as the societal gell, his moderate stance on issues seen in the TOC presidential debate. His lame points are his kicking PMO out of Istana. I actually agree with his point of separating the PMO from Istana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 If that happen, someone will return to GIC? Hell no. Not that Dr Tan, but the other Dr Tan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjoey 1st Gear August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyg Clutched August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 TCB doing well so far, his curry dinner today, his focus on multiracialism and football as the societal gell, his moderate stance on issues seen in the TOC presidential debate. His lame points are his kicking PMO out of Istana. I do like TCB too. With his good soft nature, if he is President, I wonder can he take pressure when the govt put on to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 ""Some people still ask whether my long previous association with the PAP will stop me from acting independently. The answer is no. My loyalty is first and foremost, to the people of Singapore. It has always been so, and will always remain so" Ong Teng Cheong - August 1993, in his final election broadcast speech http://www.ongtengcheong.com/quotes.htm TJS' cynicism of former PAP members is valid, but not all former PAP members running for president is like TT. Ong Teng Cheong demonstrated that he could really be independent and a good president. History and the court of public opinion has decreed so. It's no secret that everybody thinks TT is v close to the PAP. He's definitely not getting my vote because he will become another prataman. My vote will go to one of the other 3, likely TCB. Anyone here who think otherwise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good-Carbuyer 1st Gear August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 ""Some people still ask whether my long previous association with the PAP will stop me from acting independently. The answer is no. My loyalty is first and foremost, to the people of Singapore. It has always been so, and will always remain so" Ong Teng Cheong - August 1993, in his final election broadcast speech http://www.ongtengcheong.com/quotes.htm TJS' cynicism of former PAP members is valid, but not all former PAP members running for president is like TT. Ong Teng Cheong demonstrated that he could really be independent and a good president. History and the court of public opinion has decreed so. Waste of public fund with a President reporting to the Prime Minister, as seen with the previous Presidents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic August 25, 2011 Share August 25, 2011 I actually agree with his point of separating the PMO from Istana. It's like separation of state and religion. It's better for everybody in the end. Too much coziness breeds incestious relationship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toapayohkid 1st Gear August 25, 2011 Share August 25, 2011 It's like separation of state and religion. It's better for everybody in the end. Too much coziness breeds incestious relationship. but TJS wants to be moral authority, state and morality (religion) lumped as one now. so he would say no to casino but yes to dump away 377a. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moredhel 2nd Gear August 25, 2011 Share August 25, 2011 It's like separation of state and religion. It's better for everybody in the end. Too much coziness breeds incestious relationship. Indeed. TCB is still too weak and pro-establishment moderate imo... Doubt any controversial policies will be brought up and grilled in the cabinet. PM says = Constitution. Need someone unpredictable inside in a position of influence. TJS or TKL for me. They can't do worse than a pro-PAP TT with obvious conflict of interest, or a TCB who is a nice person but ultimately, will still end up as a 4m per year upkeep puppet to the govt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiGirl Neutral Newbie August 25, 2011 Share August 25, 2011 It's no secret that everybody thinks TT is v close to the PAP. He's definitely not getting my vote because he will become another prataman. My vote will go to one of the other 3, likely TCB. Anyone here who think otherwise? yup, same here. I've been sitting on the fence all these while, but now it's certain. And I rally all my kakis to go 4 TCB. Actually I made this decision after reading the TODAY"S paper. really bui tahan the way it was reported. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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