Corruption?

[Zanter]

Coy policy states any gifts or money given will be property of the coy...

 

He's a Malaysian PR.... Y r Malaysians like to take bribes?? Sigh

 

 

It has been said that every man or woman has his/her price. Malaysian just charge cheaper thats all cos lower standard of living . Singapore police stop you & you offer $50 sure die 1, If offer $50,000 cash wont accept if nobody finds out? If reject then 100,000k . There was a R -rated movie Director when he was asked how he gets the girls to strip naked for scene. He says very simple, just double the fees till the panties drop

[Freestylers09]

But this kind got stated in LOA de meh??

Gift i know got

 

Or need ask permission? Or coy RO got put ? Keke

[Pokyman]

But this kind got stated in LOA de meh??

Gift i know got

 

Or need ask permission? Or coy RO got put ? Keke

 

check company ... most shud have, esp MNCs... things like FCPA also have.... best if check with HR loh

[Fireball0088]

But this kind got stated in LOA de meh??

Gift i know got

 

Or need ask permission? Or coy RO got put ? Keke

 

LOA?

 

Do your company have a set of code of ethics? There should have indicated can be done. It all depend on the company's culture. Some have it grey and unspoken. It's better to read the code properly and also seek help if you are not clear. Ask your boss to check with HR.

 

If your company is a MNC, then surely you have to comply with FCPA - Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (like Poky has mentioned).....

 

 

[Brianjones]

Your English is very unique too

That was my point . Looks like you got it afterall. ;)

[KARTer]

it is not a matter of happy not happy, every small issue can bring in politic but TS issue is quite straight forward, can spare it from getting too complicated?

hmmm..... is life always meant to be simple? btw, this is not really complicated anyway. just my opinion.

[KARTer]

different company have different policy on this.

 

i work in one company that have a policy of anything below USD 50.00 dont have to declare.. above USD 50.00 declare and let the company decide you keep or company keep or return to Vender/Supplier/Sub-con.

 

so its not exactly grey area..

 

i also work in a company where even a simple mooncake cannot take.

if we are taking the amounts (whether its large or small) as the benchmarks, it means it's grey overall except individual companies pick one cut-off point to suit themselves. Yes, as per individual company its not grey, but across the industry it's not pure black n white.

[Freestylers09]

Letter of appoiment lo

 

Got simi acceptance of gift cash etc

 

But entertainment not sure later i go back n read again

 

Unless all generalise together

[Freestylers09]

That was my point . Looks like you got it afterall. ;)

 

你在讲什么？

[KARTer]

LOA?

 

Do your company have a set of code of ethics? There should have indicated can be done. It all depend on the company's culture. Some have it grey and unspoken. It's better to read the code properly and also seek help if you are not clear. Ask your boss to check with HR.

 

If your company is a MNC, then surely you have to comply with FCPA - Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (like Poky has mentioned).....

For those who work and earn the official / legitimate rewards (ie salaries / bonuses etc) and not for such 'fringe' benefits, best is to pass all gifts, or declare lunches/drinks to the employer, its up to the latter to decide how to deal with the gifts / goodwill gestures provided by third parties.

 

Sleep well after that.

[KARTer]

It has been said that every man or woman has his/her price. Malaysian just charge cheaper thats all cos lower standard of living . Singapore police stop you & you offer $50 sure die 1, If offer $50,000 cash wont accept if nobody finds out? If reject then 100,000k . There was a R -rated movie Director when he was asked how he gets the girls to strip naked for scene. He says very simple, just double the fees till the panties drop

the girl may have 2nd layer of panties, after she drops the 1st, director will have to ask 'how much' again to get rid of the 2nd one.... pure business, not kum cheng or arts...

[Joseph22]

if we are taking the amounts (whether its large or small) as the benchmarks, it means it's grey overall except individual companies pick one cut-off point to suit themselves. Yes, as per individual company its not grey, but across the industry it's not pure black n white.

 

true... end of the day, what is the company policy regarding this issue. that is important..

[Curahee]

different company have different policy on this.

 

i work in one company that have a policy of anything below USD 50.00 dont have to declare.. above USD 50.00 declare and let the company decide you keep or company keep or return to Vender/Supplier/Sub-con.

 

so its not exactly grey area..

 

i also work in a company where even a simple mooncake cannot take.

 

Ur co. MNC? My wife co. a US oil industry MNC also like that, cannot accept CNY hamper, moon cake, etc, they say its bribery. My side SME, anything also take.

[Fireball0088]

Letter of appoiment lo

 

Got simi acceptance of gift cash etc

 

But entertainment not sure later i go back n read again

 

Unless all generalise together

 

i see. check whether you also sign a code of ethic and anything else.

 

let me ask you -

 

is it right for you to bring your potential customers to KTV, buy them drinks and girls during business negotiations? potentially if you don't bring them there, you will NOT get their business?

[Fireball0088]

For those who work and earn the official / legitimate rewards (ie salaries / bonuses etc) and not for such 'fringe' benefits, best is to pass all gifts, or declare lunches/drinks to the employer, its up to the latter to decide how to deal with the gifts / goodwill gestures provided by third parties.

 

Sleep well after that.

 

the best is do anything but don't get caught

[KARTer]

There is at least one type of situation I am trying to figure out whether corruption is committed:-

 

A is the manager in charge of say the outsourced security service for his boss. He went through a proper tender process, all transparent, and eventually appointed X company to provide the service for say 2 years.

 

During the 2 years, A manages the service provided by X in a fair manner not taking advantage of X for personal gains. In appreciation of A's fairness, X gives A a big expensive hamper and has it sent to his home.

 

Let's say A's boss has no specific rules regarding employees receiving gifts from suppliers/contractors, under CPIB rules, if A accepts the hamper, will he be found guilty?

[KARTer]

the best is do anything but don't get caught

Including plucking road side wild flowers??

[Csnewbie]

That was my point . Looks like you got it afterall. ;)

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