Tailgatepro 1st Gear October 8, 2011 Share October 8, 2011 When i shop for brake system and was planning to purchase big brake caliper and rotor, I was surprise to heard one of the stuff said i dont not need to buy all this expensive upgrade as he ask me go somewhere else to find electric to boost my brake. Well, i quickly look into internet is there sure thing and what i found http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/69A3151A0A0.aspx Really if want to have better stopping, increase size is not the issue? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copen 1st Gear October 8, 2011 Share October 8, 2011 Enjoy reading. All your braking myths or misunderstanding answered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgatepro 1st Gear October 8, 2011 Author Share October 8, 2011 thank you. I can't talking abt upgrading of brake booster or require vacuun pump topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdior 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 change better pad n change brake hose to stainless steel, slot ur rotor,...make alot of diff liao...if u feel ur brake still sux. than u change to big caliper n rotor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazybugger 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 big calipers and rotors don't make difference to braking force - they are just more able to withstand constant hard braking, like in a race. slotting the rotors will help to remove a thin layer of pad every time the pad runs over the slot, so you get fresh grippy pads all the time. wat will increase the braking force is to change to higher friction pads and rotors and changing to a higher pressure brake pump or adding brake booster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaceracer 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 Actually if you are able to lock your tyres with stock brakes, then i would say that the brakes are strong enough le. If you install a stronger brake system, it will still be able to lock the brakes. For normal driving on the roads, upgrading to a grippier tyre might be a better choice IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazybugger 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 Actually if you are able to lock your tyres with stock brakes, then i would say that the brakes are strong enough le. If you install a stronger brake system, it will still be able to lock the brakes. For normal driving on the roads, upgrading to a grippier tyre might be a better choice IMO. agree totally ... also can consider upgrade the suspension Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickensoup 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 When i shop for brake system and was planning to purchase big brake caliper and rotor, I was surprise to heard one of the stuff said i dont not need to buy all this expensive upgrade as he ask me go somewhere else to find electric to boost my brake. Well, i quickly look into internet is there sure thing and what i found http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/69A3151A0A0.aspx Really if want to have better stopping, increase size is not the issue? If you want better stopping power just change to a grippy set of brake pads. Pads with higher friction but the drawbacks will be dusty rims. Size of disc rotor has more thermal capacity to resist heat and of course more aggressive looking. Nothing more than this. But prepare to change to big rims and tyres $$$$$ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 greater brake force = greater foot strength ok thats lame..... btw, i always doubt the installation of BBK in front only. Simply becos would it not upset the balance of braking force distribution?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 Really if want to have better stopping, increase size is not the issue? besides the things already mentioned: * reduce momentum by reducing car weight and speed * use tyres with shorter stopping distance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooosh 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 good tyres number one priority if the brakes and stop the car but due to poor traction on the tyres, it will still go forward.... Brakes use dot 4, Stainless steel brake hose and brake pad use semi metallic material.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonjees 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 greater brake force = greater foot strength ok thats lame..... btw, i always doubt the installation of BBK in front only. Simply becos would it not upset the balance of braking force distribution?? yes installing a BBK for the front only will cos the braking distribution to be stronger in the front. what this will do is, your front will sink more when braking hard. this is generally not an issue if you have a FWD with strong suspensions, but for the AWD all round even braking is preferred, for the RWD as well. also depends on your engine setup, be it mid or front or rear even. alot of folks like to do a BBK with 6 pots front and 4 pots rear or even just the front brakes only, but that is because changing the rear brakes can be a challenge, needing the right knuckles and cable length. thus far i had always liked the 6 pots front and rear, it gives me a uniformed braking feel and great assurance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5936 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 (edited) I just upgrade my front brake pads and the brake power increased. I do agree that there are many options to improve- contact area, brake pressure. Edited October 9, 2011 by 5936 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuan 6th Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 When i shop for brake system and was planning to purchase big brake caliper and rotor, I was surprise to heard one of the stuff said i dont not need to buy all this expensive upgrade as he ask me go somewhere else to find electric to boost my brake. Well, i quickly look into internet is there sure thing and what i found http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/69A3151A0A0.aspx Really if want to have better stopping, increase size is not the issue? Change to grippy brake pads and good tyres would be more practical or realistic option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yc86 Clutched October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 By increasing braking power, u mean increasing the feedback to think that you have increased braking power right? Braking power in car terms is the ability to lock all 4 wheels, and to a certain extent, how quick. This is the ultimate goal of the braking system. To increase feel to think that you have increased braking power, u need to reduce the pedal travel. This is done by changing your master cylinder, or size and numbers of pistons in your caliper. To make your car dive more to give the impression that u're slowing down quicker, u change to a bigger rotor or increase the coeff of friction of the pads. The electric vacuum pump thingy, can also help but only if your vacuum is not enough, eg if u are running very high cams at idling. On the other extreme end, all formula cars don't have power assisted brakes. The force u apply is the force you get (after hydraulic advantage). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 The size of calipers and rotors make no difference to braking ability. It doesn't mean you have BBK means your braking distance will be automatically shorter. Braking ability is determined by 2 factors: the braking force (the pressure of the brake pad against the rotors) and the coeffiicent of friction of the pads. Having BBK can sometimes reduce your braking ability instead because the brake pressure is reduced (pressure = force / area). If your brake vacuum pump cannot provide enough force, you will experience this. The main purpose of BBK is to prevent the brake from overheating under constant hard braking esp. in race situations. just look at F1 brakes and compare the size. They do not use massive brakes. But to prevent overheating, they use materials meant to withstand high temp as well as cooling ducts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithunk 1st Gear October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 The size of calipers and rotors make no difference to braking ability. It doesn't mean you have BBK means your braking distance will be automatically shorter. Braking ability is determined by 2 factors: the braking force (the pressure of the brake pad against the rotors) and the coeffiicent of friction of the pads. Having BBK can sometimes reduce your braking ability instead because the brake pressure is reduced (pressure = force / area). If your brake vacuum pump cannot provide enough force, you will experience this. The main purpose of BBK is to prevent the brake from overheating under constant hard braking esp. in race situations. just look at F1 brakes and compare the size. They do not use massive brakes. But to prevent overheating, they use materials meant to withstand high temp as well as cooling ducts. yes totally agree which means using the foot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigershark1976 Turbocharged October 9, 2011 Share October 9, 2011 (edited) if you are going for shorter braking distance, go for tyre upgrade instead, most of the time, its not the brake that is not stopping the wheel on time... its the tyre that fails to grip the road... stock brake is good enough for most siituation... of course, if you are going for track, thats another story all together.... Edited October 9, 2011 by Tigershark1976 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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