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Throttle2

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the cartier about 7500, any idea how much the j12 costs? carpark at mbs too ex for me to check it out...

 

please dont waste time on Chanel watches.

 

they can do handbags and clothes and even fragrance but watches, dont waste time.

 

would you buy a washing machine from Nike if Nike made one?

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Sabbie

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please dont waste time on Chanel watches.

 

they can do handbags and clothes and even fragrance but watches, dont waste time.

 

would you buy a washing machine from Nike if Nike made one?

I think chanel does produce nice looking watches whether good or not is a different story, then how about mont blanc? Can do pens but not watches?

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Viceroymenthol

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thanks for the input Viceroy,

 

i guess the strap would cost about $400-500?

yup i wouldnt dare to "operate" on the AP should i get it.

the Dual Time rose gold is definitely an AP, i would consider.

 

any indication of the price?

i was told that, 25% off retail was pretty standard.

how about grey market pieces?

 

The royal oak offshore hornback alligator costs around $800 from the AP centre, so i would suppose the royal oak regular alligator strap costs slightly less, being smaller and thinner? Why not go down to the AP centre to browse around for the straps (they do not have watches on display though). The service is top notch. Look for Joanne.

 

For gray market Dual Time RG, if i remember correctly it was $29k from Hobbylink at Far East Plaza in 2009. Now may be around $31k? For gray market prices for parallel imported watches, a lot depends on the exchange rate and the availability of the piece. It will definitely be under list price, as all regular production APs are.

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Viceroymenthol

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I think chanel does produce nice looking watches whether good or not is a different story, then how about mont blanc? Can do pens but not watches?

 

Of all the fashion brands that tried to cross over into watches, i would trust Cartier and Bvlgari the most. Reason being they were excellent jewellery makers first and foremost, and it isn't that different from making the watch cases, straps, etc. Both disciplines require high precision with a touch of artistic flair.

 

Both have their own iconic designs, Cartier has the Santos and Tank Francaise, Bvlgari has the Bvlgari-Bvlgari.

 

As for the movements in Cartier and Bvlgari watches, they used third party movements in the past.

 

Although Cartier now has their in-house movement (for their high end range), in 2010 Bvlgari had acquired the companies of Daniel Roth and Gerald Genta, both legendary watchmakers, to design and manufacture Bvlgari watches and movements across their range. I personally feel that Bvlgari has more potential in the future. Gerald Genta was responsible for the design of many iconic watches, the Royal Oak and the Nautilus being two.

 

As for Mont Blanc, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, etc... they are not bad lah. Just whether you want to pay the price or not. I like the LV Tambour, but not sure if i like it enough to buy it.

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2009k

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Of all the fashion brands that tried to cross over into watches, i would trust Cartier and Bvlgari the most. Reason being they were excellent jewellery makers first and foremost, and it isn't that different from making the watch cases, straps, etc. Both disciplines require high precision with a touch of artistic flair.

 

Both have their own iconic designs, Cartier has the Santos and Tank Francaise, Bvlgari has the Bvlgari-Bvlgari.

 

As for the movements in Cartier and Bvlgari watches, they used third party movements in the past.

 

Although Cartier now has their in-house movement (for their high end range), in 2010 Bvlgari had acquired the companies of Daniel Roth and Gerald Genta, both legendary watchmakers, to design and manufacture Bvlgari watches and movements across their range. I personally feel that Bvlgari has more potential in the future. Gerald Genta was responsible for the design of many iconic watches, the Royal Oak and the Nautilus being two.

 

As for Mont Blanc, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, etc... they are not bad lah. Just whether you want to pay the price or not. I like the LV Tambour, but not sure if i like it enough to buy it.

 

Very knowledgeable... wow...

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So say now economic downturn until blood on the streets...

 

Which watch to buy and when it's back to rosy days hor will have the best profit margin??

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Of all the fashion brands that tried to cross over into watches, i would trust Cartier and Bvlgari the most. Reason being they were excellent jewellery makers first and foremost, and it isn't that different from making the watch cases, straps, etc. Both disciplines require high precision with a touch of artistic flair.

 

Both have their own iconic designs, Cartier has the Santos and Tank Francaise, Bvlgari has the Bvlgari-Bvlgari.

 

As for the movements in Cartier and Bvlgari watches, they used third party movements in the past.

 

Although Cartier now has their in-house movement (for their high end range), in 2010 Bvlgari had acquired the companies of Daniel Roth and Gerald Genta, both legendary watchmakers, to design and manufacture Bvlgari watches and movements across their range. I personally feel that Bvlgari has more potential in the future. Gerald Genta was responsible for the design of many iconic watches, the Royal Oak and the Nautilus being two.

 

As for Mont Blanc, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, etc... they are not bad lah. Just whether you want to pay the price or not. I like the LV Tambour, but not sure if i like it enough to buy it.

 

Thanks for sharing, very knowledgable indeed.

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So say now economic downturn until blood on the streets...

 

Which watch to buy and when it's back to rosy days hor will have the best profit margin??

 

My feel is that it doesn't depend on the blood on the streets....value of watch depends on the rarity of the model and complication of the movement....

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Of all the fashion brands that tried to cross over into watches, i would trust Cartier and Bvlgari the most. Reason being they were excellent jewellery makers first and foremost, and it isn't that different from making the watch cases, straps, etc. Both disciplines require high precision with a touch of artistic flair.

 

Both have their own iconic designs, Cartier has the Santos and Tank Francaise, Bvlgari has the Bvlgari-Bvlgari.

 

As for the movements in Cartier and Bvlgari watches, they used third party movements in the past.

 

Although Cartier now has their in-house movement (for their high end range), in 2010 Bvlgari had acquired the companies of Daniel Roth and Gerald Genta, both legendary watchmakers, to design and manufacture Bvlgari watches and movements across their range. I personally feel that Bvlgari has more potential in the future. Gerald Genta was responsible for the design of many iconic watches, the Royal Oak and the Nautilus being two.

 

As for Mont Blanc, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, etc... they are not bad lah. Just whether you want to pay the price or not. I like the LV Tambour, but not sure if i like it enough to buy it.

 

thanks for sharing, learn a lot from your posts ^_^

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So say now economic downturn until blood on the streets...

 

Which watch to buy and when it's back to rosy days hor will have the best profit margin??

 

Maybe Viceroy has a different answer, but I would say "no watch". I don't consider watches investments, at least intentional ones.

 

Go buy undervalued blue chip stocks.

 

You buy a watch to keep it, wear it and hand it down.

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Maybe Viceroy has a different answer, but I would say "no watch". I don't consider watches investments, at least intentional ones.

 

Go buy undervalued blue chip stocks.

 

You buy a watch to keep it, wear it and hand it down.

 

watches are for wearing.. not really for investments [thumbsup]

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Viceroymenthol

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thanks for sharing, learn a lot from your posts ^_^

 

Thanks but i don't deserve the compliment because there is a wealth of information out there that can be very easily accessed if one has the interest and the time. :D

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Viceroymenthol

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Maybe Viceroy has a different answer, but I would say "no watch". I don't consider watches investments, at least intentional ones.

 

Go buy undervalued blue chip stocks.

 

You buy a watch to keep it, wear it and hand it down.

 

My opinion is of the same as yours, there is no point in buying nice watches for investment and not wear them. It seems very masochistic to me. Life is short, just enjoy it la.

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TandemAssassin

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excuse me, B&R screams yuppie and upstart more than anything else lah.

 

slowly lah, you'll get there someday. [rolleyes]

 

[laugh]

 

as i said, i buy a watch because it looks nice on my wrists. i can't say the same for anyone else but on my wrist nothing shouts out upstart more than a rolex. i have yet to reach a stage where i am dignified or mature enough such that the watch looks comfortable on my wrist.

 

and you may be right; i may get there someday [much as i hope it never comes]

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