Becareful of Ubi Autobacs

[Bystander50]

Good idea. Sue for Orchard Road flooding, repeated trains breakdowns. All lawyers rolling on the floor with stomach cramps from laughing.

 

Do you know why SMRT is so quick to make a refund for those who can't complete their journey?

Once you've taken the refund, you'll have no case against them.

 

 

[ER-3682]

To T/S....you are driving too fast.!Don't blame anybody,just blame yourself,over confident.

[Donut]

I will just go down personally and discuss with the management the possibility of a compromise in compensation and hopefully can come up with a amicable solution after the quotation for the repair is let known....

 

It is just not worth it to engage in legal fight but now it boils down to the cost. What is they suddenly quote me like for example $8K for repairs?! [knife]

 

If u wan to be extra hardworking, u can do your own survey on those drivers going to Autobacs.

 

Just approach drivers entering the carpark ans do a on-the-spot survey. If the responses are favourable to you, collate them and submit to Autobacs.

 

U might meet some kind souls who happened to be some engineer expert or lawyer on this subject matter and willing to help you on extra mile by writing in formally to Autobacs, or refer you to the right authorities, etc.

 

BTW, when the accident happens, did you check the road for oil residues?

 

 

[Yewheng]

I have driven to the car park before on rainy weathers or when the roads are wet.

 

No issue. Once I see the surface of the path being different from normal roads and I suspect they could be very slippery and my tires may have problems gripping or holding the roads, I drove at an extremely slow speed.

 

The approach is: if one is unsure, take the defensive approach and drive slow and cautiously.

 

Ya one should never be complacent with thinking " Ai ya car will not skid on wet road la " so proceed to drive with normally drive on dry road. The problem is one may feel he/she may drive slow but in actual fact is already abit too fast on wet road already. The slow speed should be speed of crawling just like how driver drive over the hump type of speed ( If that speed still skid, than I got nothing to say ) .

Edited April 22, 2012 by Yewheng

[Good-Carbuyer]

Do you know why SMRT is so quick to make a refund for those who can't complete their journey?

Once you've taken the refund, you'll have no case against them.

I believe quite a number also find it inconvenient to claim the refund (tourists/one-off commuters). So can be profitable for the bad publicity (being monopoly still can survive all bad publicity).

[Nzy]

Alot of people forget that most carparks the speed limit always put 15km/h. That speed is quite slow. For some auto car you just release brakes and let the car creep also can go faster than that already.

[Darthrevan]

I have driven to the car park before on rainy weathers or when the roads are wet.

 

No issue. Once I see the surface of the path being different from normal roads and I suspect they could be very slippery and my tires may have problems gripping or holding the roads, I drove at an extremely slow speed.

 

The approach is: if one is unsure, take the defensive approach and drive slow and cautiously.

 

agreed..i've been to this place many a times, rain or shine..the travelling speed always less than 15km/h..no problems whatsoever

[Yuan]

Alot of people forget that most carparks the speed limit always put 15km/h. That speed is quite slow. For some auto car you just release brakes and let the car creep also can go faster than that already.

 

A lot of drivers especially coming out of MSCP or open car parks are not aware of this limit.

 

I still do see many that just speed or race their ways out or down anyhow.

[Nzy]

A lot of drivers especially coming out of MSCP or open car parks are not aware of this limit.

 

I still do see many that just speed or race their ways out or down anyhow.

 

Yep. Very common to see people exceeding the speed limit in carparks. But I am also guilty of doing that when the floor is dry. Normally in carpark I go at around 25km/h. 15km/h is really slow. But when in MSCP with wet floor I will just stick to the speed limit. Have not experience any loss of grip yet. And my tires aren't even supposed to be good in the wet.

[5936]

I found that after car wash or on wet surface, moving down ramp of MSCP and turning over a hump, tapping brake likely will also activate ESP.

 

[Nzy]

I found that after car wash or on wet surface, moving down ramp of MSCP and turning over a hump, tapping brake likely will also activate ESP.

 

No chance to experience that as my car has no ESP or ABS or any traction control. So far when the floor wet and I go at less than 15km/h on MSCP kind of surfaces the car doesn't understeer or slide even when going up or down the slopes.

Edited April 22, 2012 by Nzy

[Kiadaw]

Quite normal if the flooring done by none motorist(s). They got no idea can cause skidding when the floor is wet

I am no civil engineer, but shouldn't there be some kind of standard for flooring.

 

I have seen outdoor flooring using smooth marble (like parkway parade), & these are very slippy when it rains. In fact I do not understand the use of smooth reflective marble at all for floor, very dangerous for people wearing short skirts.

 

Having said that, I think its still pretty hard to skid on cement with a decent sets of tires if one goes slowly, even with rain, unless there is incline, but unless one goes up 2nd level, the floor on ground level is flat.

 

I went to Ubi Autobac often, as its near where I lived, so far no big issue. There is some bad designs, but I do not think the floor is this bad.

 

I would love to CSI, unfortunately, I am not in Singapore anymore, maybe some bro here with engineering sense can CSI and give us a field accessment on the flooring.

Edited April 22, 2012 by Kiadaw

[Good-Carbuyer]

I am no civil engineer, but shouldn't there be some kind of standard for flooring.

 

I have seen outdoor flooring using smooth marble (like parkway parade), & these are very slippy when it rains. In fact I do not understand the use of smooth reflective marble at all for floor, very dangerous for people wearing short skirts.

 

Having said that, I think its still pretty hard to skid on cement with a decent sets of tires if one goes slowly, even with rain, unless there is incline, but unless one goes up 2nd level, the floor on ground level is flat.

 

I went to Ubi Autobac often, as its near where I lived, so far no big issue. There is some bad designs, but I do not think the floor is this bad.

 

I would love to CSI, unfortunately, I am not in Singapore anymore, maybe some bro here with engineering sense can CSI and give us a field accessment on the flooring.

Here its more under the Architect's than the Engineers' scope of work/professionalism. But who cares if the Owner/end-users did not comment/overlook it. I believe if you tell me there is no professionalism/pride/job satisfaction among them. To make matters worse, there are many FT involved for the first time in their lives. No idea whats it is all about. Just stand back watch the show while waiting for payday. Example: repeated Orchard Road flooding, trains breakdowns, more to come (FT involved). I am not trying to be funny, just their culture is not to learn from stranger (locals) what they do not know. So some/many non-graduate locals are really be more knowledegable than graduate FT being promoted as talents (outsmart the scholars). My last project, the Consultant's Project Engineer (FT) had to leave after making a mess with the engineering design (where he came from, there is hardly any air-conditioned buildings). How could he design without basic knowledge of it? Resident Engineer (FT), practised close-one-eye supervision where she could not understand what's the practice (contractor employed mostly FT, too). Hence the construction industry could be the next big thing involved in breakdowns/collapse/failure due to ceremonial inspections/supervision by FT who had no idea/could not be bothered. The Authority (may be FT-manned) no reply to reports yet.

[Bystander50]

There are 2 types of barrier systems. AB's should be the cheaper system since it controls the lifting and lowering of the barrier.

 

Those with payment systems built in such as in carparks will definitely be more expensive.

Don't get carrot head for this.

 

 

[Fireball0088]

Raining very heavily this afternoon and any bros here going to Ubi Autobacs on rainy days please please be extra careful when manoeuvring in Autobacs Ubi carpark.

The flooring has almost no friction when the floor is wet.

 

Was there this afternoon, while doing and right turn trying to exit the carpark, very gently tapped on the brakes and whole car skidded and buang onto the auto barrier.

Wasnt even speeding at all. If you all notice, it is also very slippery even when you are walking.

 

Barrier box a bit slanted and barrier cannot work anymore. Awaiting quote for the damage. $$$$ fly.

 

This is just a warning to all bros, unnecessary comments is not welcomed.

 

Would be good if anyone in this line knows the rough $$ damage of the repair of the barrier....

 

 

[shakehead]

 

what tyres are you on?

[Ethene]

Just got updates regarding the barrier box from Autobacs.

 

1. Contractor came down and access the damaged. They say 'most likely' is only the barrier casing damage. quoted $1200 for the casing.

2. If after changing new casing and still doesn't work, other internal parts may be damaged and the cost have yet to be factored in.

3. Discussed with Autobacs and they said I could do the repair myself if I have my own contractor.

 

So any kind bro here got experience in this and got contacts to contractors who repairs barrier box? PM pls pls. Thnks a mil !

 

[Kimmeng]

@Ethene So what is the outcome?

[ER-3682]

9 hours ago, Kimmeng said:

@Ethene So what is the outcome?

Dig a 9 Years Old case & ask the outcome.????