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Michael Palmer resigns from PAP/MP/Speaker of Parliament

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Tjkbeluga

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Ysl kept quiet and protected his women, gave up everything and left, :" I don't go to hell, who go to hell?"

I respect that in a man. He really took a hit for what he did. He didn't kiss and tell to save his own Dick.

 

Michael ? What happened to his women? Hung out to dry, her life is over, just like Tammy number 2.

She is portrayed as like a serial cheating slut in the press. why no one portray him as a pussy hungry f--k who fire and forget?

 

 

instead we see the press praising him as a good mp.... Seems like a coordinated effort to sacrifice the women for a "greater good"

 

Well.... Both have affairs.

Only one took it like a man.

I beg to differ..... The only difference here is that the press did not name who the lady was in YSL's case. However, no need to do so as everyone already know who she is. For PAP who trumpetted high quality MP, they really had to come out clean. Everyone should know that if they don't be open to all, it will be worse for them. Anyway, for the press, other than stating the fact of who she is, did they bad mouth her? In fact, I despise YSL for I don't think, he has admitted what he did publicly. Just apologize and left....

 

As for the press of praising him, honestly I didn't read it but I would have thought they should have said "WAS" a good MP. As for his past good jobs done, I'm sure no one will be able to tarnish it....

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Twincharged

I think there is no way LHL could escape from calling a by-election in this SMC. WP had already gamely accepted a by-election due to YSL's saga and won. For LHL's case, its damned if he do and damned if he don't. :D

 

Probably, he is just strategising for the most appropriate timing to call for it. Personally, i feel that it will be a surprise if he decides to call for it before the end of 2012, considering so many major screw-ups and events this year.

 

Punggol-East SMC is a dangerous place in which PAP has to thread carefully due to the spill-over effect of votes from WP's Hougang and Aljunied.

 

I expect LHL to call for a by-election anytime before CNY or the Budget announcement.

 

LSL call BE for Hougang cos he had nothing to lose, but possibility to win additional seat (although basically no chance), nothing to do with WP request. If he was confident of winning, he would call BE regardless of what WP says, and the MSM will go to town with front page articles about how BE is for the good of the country etc etc

 

In Pungol, he has nothing to win, but could lose a seat. Thats why MSM already start saying/preping people to accept theres no need for BE, all up to PM decision only.

 

Put it this way, if Aljuined GRC had a scandal like this, he would turn heaven and earth to find a way to call BE.

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Lethalstrike

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The other day he said he will consider the by election carefully as there is currently issues to focus on ranging from the ongoing national conversation and the upcoming Budget 2013. Sounds like a hint he is more likely to announce the timing of by election (if there is any) after the budget annoucement in Feb 2013.

 

Agree that Punggol East SMC can be dangerous for them due to the close proximity to Aljunied and HG. It has been known that residents with friends/relatives living next door will ask each other how is it like living in the ward next door under WP. Most of them feel more assured after hearing from their friends/relatives that WP managed the ward well. PM seems to like the month of May for elections. GE 2011 and By Election HG are both held in the month of May. This time it could be too. [laugh]

 

As for whether he will call for it before or after Budget 2013 in Feb, i think its got a lot to do with the contents of the Budget itself! If its a vote buying exercise in which rebates and tax cuts are in the books to keep citizens happy, then for sure LHL will do it after the Budget announcement. [laugh]

 

At this point of time, it may already be too late for LHL to make any major changes to the contents of Budget 2013, considering they only have around 2 months left. Furthermore, the PAP is unlikely to use up their entire box of sweeteners just to cater for this by-election, especially when they need all the incentives they can muster for the major battle in 2016.

 

Yes. The month of May seems to be a supposedly lucky month for him, but i guess this might change as the PAP lost a GRC and failed to reclaim a long-lost SMC when a once in every 20 years golden opportunity beckons.

 

So in all, my personal bet is that LHL will do it before Budget 2013.

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Damienic

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LSL call BE for Hougang cos he had nothing to lose, but possibility to win additional seat (although basically no chance), nothing to do with WP request. If he was confident of winning, he would call BE regardless of what WP says, and the MSM will go to town with front page articles about how BE is for the good of the country etc etc

 

In Pungol, he has nothing to win, but could lose a seat. Thats why MSM already start saying/preping people to accept theres no need for BE, all up to PM decision only.

 

Put it this way, if Aljuined GRC had a scandal like this, he would turn heaven and earth to find a way to call BE.

 

Not necessarily. Cos PM once maintained that there is no need for a by election in a GRC if one of the seat is vacated due to the MP resigning or death as the rest of the MPs can help to take care of the ward inside the GRC. We had two cases happening in GRC before and no by election was called. I understand what you are saying about Aljunied GRC but as the PM he has to make good his words. Can he say no need for by election in a GRC and yet now go back on his words to say a by election in Aljunied GRC is a must because say one of the MP passed away? Imagine the credibility he is going to lose.

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Lethalstrike

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LSL call BE for Hougang cos he had nothing to lose, but possibility to win additional seat (although basically no chance), nothing to do with WP request. If he was confident of winning, he would call BE regardless of what WP says, and the MSM will go to town with front page articles about how BE is for the good of the country etc etc

 

In Pungol, he has nothing to win, but could lose a seat. Thats why MSM already start saying/preping people to accept theres no need for BE, all up to PM decision only.

 

Put it this way, if Aljuined GRC had a scandal like this, he would turn heaven and earth to find a way to call BE.

 

Yes, you are right. But sadly, this is the modus operandi of the PAP.

 

I doubt he dared to reject a BE, as afterall, the citizens are not that daft and will not meekly accept this decision.

 

If he do so, he must be prepared to pay the price for GE 2016.

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Damienic

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As for whether he will call for it before or after Budget 2013 in Feb, i think its got a lot to do with the contents of the Budget itself! If its a vote buying exercise in which rebates and tax cuts are in the books to keep citizens happy, then for sure LHL will do it after the Budget announcement. [laugh]

 

At this point of time, it may already be too late for LHL to make any major changes to the contents of Budget 2013, considering they only have around 2 months left. Furthermore, the PAP is unlikely to use up their entire box of sweeteners just to cater for this by-election, especially when they need all the incentives they can muster for the major battle in 2016.

 

Yes. The month of May seems to be a supposedly lucky month for him, but i guess this might change as the PAP lost a GRC and failed to reclaim a long-lost SMC when a once in every 20 years golden opportunity beckons.

 

So in all, my personal bet is that LHL will do it before Budget 2013.

 

I share your observations (about the budget), but was wondering what incentives is there for him to call for the election before Budget 2013? How does that help him and the team? Maybe delaying the by election would be a better option for them instead of holding it early. Many people are still angry over some fresh issues that came up recently, for e.g the announcement of bus fare hikes. [laugh]

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Lethalstrike

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I share your observations (about the budget), but was wondering what incentives is there for him to call for the election before Budget 2013? How does that help him and the team? Maybe delaying the by election would be a better option for them instead of holding it early. Many people are still angry over some fresh issues that came up recently, for e.g the announcement of bus fare hikes. [laugh]

 

Its just a gut feel, honestly speaking. :D

 

I've got a feeling that LHL knows that he has to get this fiasco over and done with asap, and this is including the consequence of a by-election. He knows that Budget 2013 is going to be a prudent one, whether he likes it or not as its already been forecasted that SG's GDP will contract in 2013.

 

So, by thinking logically along this line, there's going to be more s--t and bad news for the entire 2013. Additionally, there is no guarantee that there won't be major screwups again from SMRT throughout the year. The more he drags, the worse it is for the PAP as 2013 seems to be volatile year.

 

Might as well portray themselves as "credible" and call for a by-election. Sacrifice the tree rather than the entire forest.

 

 

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Not necessarily. Cos PM once maintained that there is no need for a by election in a GRC if one of the seat is vacated due to the MP resigning or death as the rest of the MPs can help to take care of the ward inside the GRC. We had two cases happening in GRC before and no by election was called. I understand what you are saying about Aljunied GRC but as the PM he has to make good his words. Can he say no need for by election in a GRC and yet now go back on his words to say a by election in Aljunied GRC is a must because say one of the MP passed away? Imagine the credibility he is going to lose.

 

This is also a general who has undoubtedly given numerous speeches about duty honour country, we are all Singaporeans etc etc.

Yet never fails to threaten and punish the same people and soldiers in opposition wards, making it clear party membership card comes before our pink identity card.

This leap of logic and credibility has never stopped him.

Not saying he will, he already say need or no need is up to his discretion.

Hope he never need to be put to the test.

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HP_Lee

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Rising Star thinking he could get away with things? Miscalculartion or honest mistake ? [:(]

 

This affair does not happen over night. If he have a choice, he chose to stay on. Believe, it was exposed. So he thought is better to get to PM, instead of PM confront him. [laugh] [laugh]

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This affair does not happen over night. If he have a choice, he chose to stay on. Believe, it was exposed. So he thought is better to get to PM, instead of PM confront him. [laugh] [laugh]

Premeditated mistake with an exit thru an honest admission of wrong doing, resulting in an honour as a hero with praises from important people!

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Ahwhye

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Ysl kept quiet and protected his women, gave up everything and left, :" I don't go to hell, who go to hell?"

I respect that in a man. He really took a hit for what he did. He didn't kiss and tell to save his own Dick.

 

Michael ? What happened to his women? Hung out to dry, her life is over, just like Tammy number 2.

She is portrayed as like a serial cheating slut in the press. why no one portray him as a pussy hungry f--k who fire and forget?

 

 

instead we see the press praising him as a good mp.... Seems like a coordinated effort to sacrifice the women for a "greater good"

 

Well.... Both have affairs.

Only one took it like a man.

 

what you saw on the press is just an concerted effort to do damage control, nevermind that makes the straits times look like another tabloid. by painting LO "black", they hope people subconciously think MP is not as culpable.

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Maxus-MIFA9

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Ok...to get back to car related topic..

Anyone knows what car Palmer and Laura drive?

Did they....humpty dumpty in their cars?

 

Then, would you like to know which car park did they go? ... [sly]

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